Well, the cruise missiles are flying..

[xenon]

@Horace said in Well, the cruise missiles are flying..:

These optics can’t be good for Russia.

I don't see how any of this is to the long-term benefit of Russia. They're a commodity seller and countries will be even more wary of Russian investments and economic entanglements going forward.

[Jolly]

Machts nichts.

Germany, along with a couple of other European countries, will not agree to SWIFT sanctions.

[Copper]

If I was Russian, and I'm not, I would advise marching straight to Dunkirk, then turn south.

Why not?

Who would stop them?

[George K]

@Jolly said in Well, the cruise missiles are flying..:

Welcome to war.

[LuFins Dad]

Is Baghdad Bob in the Ukraine?

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-says-more-than-1000-russian-soldiers-killed-so-far-2022-02-25/

I’m willing to believe Ukraine is causing more casualties than they are taking, but 10-1?

[Jolly]

Normal ratio is that it takes three attackers to defeat one defender in a fortified position.

[George K]

Apartment building hit.

[LuFins Dad]

@LuFins-Dad said in Well, the cruise missiles are flying..:

Is Baghdad Bob in the Ukraine?

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-says-more-than-1000-russian-soldiers-killed-so-far-2022-02-25/

I’m willing to believe Ukraine is causing more casualties than they are taking, but 10-1?

UK Defense Minister is estimating 2/1. That sounds a little more likely.

[LuFins Dad]

@Jolly said in Well, the cruise missiles are flying..:

Normal ratio is that it takes three attackers to defeat one defender in a fortified position.

When one side has a lopsided strength in armor and air then the normal ratio takes a hit.

[Aqua Letifer]

This is all kind of strange to watch.

In WWII, we had Robert Cappa. Then came CNN's real-time coverage of the first Gulf War.

Now we have social media.

It's weird to hear so many stories in real time. It's the exact same shit as with any other war, but also unique.

Yikes.

[Klaus]

My tweet of the day is from the Ukrainian ambassador in Germany. He replied to a "symbolic gesture" of lighting an official building in the colours of Ukraine by one of the politicians who most actively contributed to not actually helping them.

It's hard to translate the tweet accurately, but it's basically a very undiplomatic "Fuck you!".

[Aqua Letifer]

[Axtremus]

@Aqua-Letifer said in Well, the cruise missiles are flying..:

This is all kind of strange to watch.

In WWII, we had Robert Cappa. Then came CNN's real-time coverage of the first Gulf War.

Now we have social media.

It's weird to hear so many stories in real time. It's the exact same shit as with any other war, but also unique.

Thomas Friedman on similar points:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/opinion/putin-russia-ukraine.html

[George K]

News sources are reporting a red glow on the outskirts of Kiev for the last few hours. Perhaps an oil depot.

[George K]

500 tanks

[Jolly]

Trying to hurry and finish it.

I suspect the screws are starting to tighten on Mr. Putin.

[Renauda]

@Jolly

I think you may be right. The Ukrainians are not folding like cheap suit and he is doing what no one else before has done, uniting the West.

[Klaus]

OK, things are moving over here in a quite remarkable way.

The chancellor has announced to invest an additional 100 billion into defense and liquid gas terminals, and promised to raise the defense budget over 2% of GDP.

Both would have been unthinkable just two weeks ago.

[George K]