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Well, the cruise missiles are flying..

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    xenon
    wrote on last edited by xenon
    #40

    I don’t understand why the last two administrations and the current one have been so hesitant to arm Ukraine.

    I’m sure I’m missing something obvious. Was it the fear that the gear would eventually end up in Russian hands?

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      LuFins Dad
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      #41

      Are Poland and the Baltics constrained by EU to not take action? I’m a little surprised that they aren’t taking a more active position.

      The Brad

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        George K
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        #42

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Jolly
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          #43

          Welcome to war.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Renauda
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            #44

            @George-K said in Well, the cruise missiles are flying..:

            Seems that your link has been taken down.

            Anyhow the BBC reports that the driver of the car, an elderly man miraculously survived and was rescued by passersby who presumably witnessed the atrocity.

            Elbows up!

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            • RenaudaR Renauda

              @George-K said in Well, the cruise missiles are flying..:

              Seems that your link has been taken down.

              Anyhow the BBC reports that the driver of the car, an elderly man miraculously survived and was rescued by passersby who presumably witnessed the atrocity.

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              George K
              wrote on last edited by George K
              #45

              @Renauda

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • HoraceH Offline
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                #46

                These optics can’t be good for Russia.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  These optics can’t be good for Russia.

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                  xenon
                  wrote on last edited by xenon
                  #47

                  @Horace said in Well, the cruise missiles are flying..:

                  These optics can’t be good for Russia.

                  I don't see how any of this is to the long-term benefit of Russia. They're a commodity seller and countries will be even more wary of Russian investments and economic entanglements going forward.

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
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                    #48

                    Machts nichts.

                    Germany, along with a couple of other European countries, will not agree to SWIFT sanctions.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      #49

                      If I was Russian, and I'm not, I would advise marching straight to Dunkirk, then turn south.

                      Why not?

                      Who would stop them?

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Welcome to war.

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                        George K
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                        #50

                        @Jolly said in Well, the cruise missiles are flying..:

                        Welcome to war.

                        274736723_371130208392318_740223502346147631_n.jpg

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          LuFins Dad
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                          #51

                          Is Baghdad Bob in the Ukraine?

                          https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-says-more-than-1000-russian-soldiers-killed-so-far-2022-02-25/

                          I’m willing to believe Ukraine is causing more casualties than they are taking, but 10-1?

                          The Brad

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                            Jolly
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                            #52

                            Normal ratio is that it takes three attackers to defeat one defender in a fortified position.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #53

                              Apartment building hit.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                Is Baghdad Bob in the Ukraine?

                                https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-says-more-than-1000-russian-soldiers-killed-so-far-2022-02-25/

                                I’m willing to believe Ukraine is causing more casualties than they are taking, but 10-1?

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                                LuFins Dad
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                                #54

                                @LuFins-Dad said in Well, the cruise missiles are flying..:

                                Is Baghdad Bob in the Ukraine?

                                https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-says-more-than-1000-russian-soldiers-killed-so-far-2022-02-25/

                                I’m willing to believe Ukraine is causing more casualties than they are taking, but 10-1?

                                UK Defense Minister is estimating 2/1. That sounds a little more likely.

                                The Brad

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  Normal ratio is that it takes three attackers to defeat one defender in a fortified position.

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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  #55

                                  @Jolly said in Well, the cruise missiles are flying..:

                                  Normal ratio is that it takes three attackers to defeat one defender in a fortified position.

                                  When one side has a lopsided strength in armor and air then the normal ratio takes a hit.

                                  The Brad

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                                    Aqua Letifer
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                                    #56

                                    This is all kind of strange to watch.

                                    In WWII, we had Robert Cappa. Then came CNN's real-time coverage of the first Gulf War.

                                    Now we have social media.

                                    It's weird to hear so many stories in real time. It's the exact same shit as with any other war, but also unique.

                                    Yikes.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      Klaus
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                                      #57

                                      My tweet of the day is from the Ukrainian ambassador in Germany. He replied to a "symbolic gesture" of lighting an official building in the colours of Ukraine by one of the politicians who most actively contributed to not actually helping them.

                                      It's hard to translate the tweet accurately, but it's basically a very undiplomatic "Fuck you!".

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                                        Aqua Letifer
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                                        #58

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                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                          This is all kind of strange to watch.

                                          In WWII, we had Robert Cappa. Then came CNN's real-time coverage of the first Gulf War.

                                          Now we have social media.

                                          It's weird to hear so many stories in real time. It's the exact same shit as with any other war, but also unique.

                                          Yikes.

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                                          Axtremus
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #59

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Well, the cruise missiles are flying..:

                                          This is all kind of strange to watch.

                                          In WWII, we had Robert Cappa. Then came CNN's real-time coverage of the first Gulf War.

                                          Now we have social media.

                                          It's weird to hear so many stories in real time. It's the exact same shit as with any other war, but also unique.

                                          Thomas Friedman on similar points:

                                          https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/opinion/putin-russia-ukraine.html

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