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Well, the cruise missiles are flying..

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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #31

    It’s a terrible thought, but I think back to the videos of Baghdad in 2003. Did we have greater justification to invade a sovereign nation?

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      It’s a terrible thought, but I think back to the videos of Baghdad in 2003. Did we have greater justification to invade a sovereign nation?

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      Jolly
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      #32

      @Mik said in Well, the cruise missiles are flying..:

      It’s a terrible thought, but I think back to the videos of Baghdad in 2003. Did we have greater justification to invade a sovereign nation?

      More than what Putin used for Ukraine....

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • MikM Away
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        Mik
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        #33

        In what way?

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Jolly
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          #34
          1. We thought that faction of Al queda were in Iraq and being helped by the Iraqi government.
          2. Hussein had threatened the life of 41. Dumb move.
          3. We knew Hussein had WMD in the form of nerve gas and chemical artillery shells. I think a good bit wound up in Syria.
          4. Oil. Further wars in that section of the world would certainly destabilize energy prices.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            LuFins Dad
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            #35

            I’ll also add that Saddam was still sponsoring terrorism, was repeatedly attacking the peacekeepers, was barring access to UN Inspectors, and was starving his people while living in obscene wealth.

            The Brad

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            • MikM Away
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              Mik
              wrote on last edited by
              #36

              All that seems right to us. Not sure it does to the rest of the world.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                George K
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                #37

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • MikM Mik

                  All that seems right to us. Not sure it does to the rest of the world.

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                  LuFins Dad
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                  @Mik said in Well, the cruise missiles are flying..:

                  All that seems right to us. Not sure it does to the rest of the world.

                  Well, since Iraq is not our 51st state or even a territory and considering that we import less oil from Iraq than we do Ecuador, I think comparisons with an invasion meant to subsume a nation and their citizens doesn’t hold water. If other people feel differently, that’s okay. They are allowed to be idiots.

                  The Brad

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                      xenon
                      wrote on last edited by xenon
                      #40

                      I don’t understand why the last two administrations and the current one have been so hesitant to arm Ukraine.

                      I’m sure I’m missing something obvious. Was it the fear that the gear would eventually end up in Russian hands?

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #41

                        Are Poland and the Baltics constrained by EU to not take action? I’m a little surprised that they aren’t taking a more active position.

                        The Brad

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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #42

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #43

                            Welcome to war.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • George KG George K

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                              Renauda
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                              @George-K said in Well, the cruise missiles are flying..:

                              Seems that your link has been taken down.

                              Anyhow the BBC reports that the driver of the car, an elderly man miraculously survived and was rescued by passersby who presumably witnessed the atrocity.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • RenaudaR Renauda

                                @George-K said in Well, the cruise missiles are flying..:

                                Seems that your link has been taken down.

                                Anyhow the BBC reports that the driver of the car, an elderly man miraculously survived and was rescued by passersby who presumably witnessed the atrocity.

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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by George K
                                #45

                                @Renauda

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Horace
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                                  #46

                                  These optics can’t be good for Russia.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    These optics can’t be good for Russia.

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                                    xenon
                                    wrote on last edited by xenon
                                    #47

                                    @Horace said in Well, the cruise missiles are flying..:

                                    These optics can’t be good for Russia.

                                    I don't see how any of this is to the long-term benefit of Russia. They're a commodity seller and countries will be even more wary of Russian investments and economic entanglements going forward.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #48

                                      Machts nichts.

                                      Germany, along with a couple of other European countries, will not agree to SWIFT sanctions.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        Copper
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                                        #49

                                        If I was Russian, and I'm not, I would advise marching straight to Dunkirk, then turn south.

                                        Why not?

                                        Who would stop them?

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          Welcome to war.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          @Jolly said in Well, the cruise missiles are flying..:

                                          Welcome to war.

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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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