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Putin has made America great again

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  • MikM Mik

    And for all our posturing about sovereign nations, there's a lesson that applies to the Ukraine situation. Identify what the US's real interests are not just the words.

    Although I must say promising that US troops would not be sent to Ukraine was about as idiotic a move on Biden's part as anything he has done in the past.

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    @Mik said in Putin has made America great again:

    Although I must say promising that US troops would not be sent to Ukraine was about as idiotic a move on Biden's part as anything he has done in the past.

    Because his word is his bond?

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    • MikM Mik

      And for all our posturing about sovereign nations, there's a lesson that applies to the Ukraine situation. Identify what the US's real interests are not just the words.

      Although I must say promising that US troops would not be sent to Ukraine was about as idiotic a move on Biden's part as anything he has done in the past.

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      @Mik

      Although I must say promising that US troops would not be sent to Ukraine was about as idiotic a move on Biden's part as anything he has done in the past..

      I don’t think it was so much idiotic as it was simply confirming to Putin what he already knew. On the other hand, it was by no means an astute diplomatic move or a credible means to continue any meaningful dialogue either. So yeah it must have seemed incredibly amateurish to the Kremlin.

      In any case given today’s news from the Kremlin that it will recognize the breakaway Donbas regions as sovereign states, Kyiv and Washington are in a state of check for the next move. Any attempt on the part of Kyiv to reclaim the region will be met by overwhelming Russian military force; a repeat of Georgia in 2008, only this time I have no doubts the Russians would even consider withdrawal until Ukraine had capitulated and a Moscow friendly government is in charge.

      No matter what happens, hang on to your energy stocks.

      Elbows up!

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        Did Putin just accomplish a goal of the Trump Administration?

        Trump wanted some NATO members to up their defense spending quite a bit.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Clear thinking on the subject.

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-just-invaded-ukraine-says-former-u-s-ambassador-to-russia/vi-AAU8Hpi?ocid=msedgntp

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Here's a response:

            Germany has shut down construction of the Biden-approved Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

            https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/germanys-scholz-halts-nord-stream-2-certification-2022-02-22/

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Hindsight being what it is, I wonder where we would be if this was done in response to the buildup on the Ukranian border rather than waiting.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Link to a presentation with the analyst Dmitri Trenton earlier this am on Putin and Ukraine. Worth the 45 minutes as Trenin highlights a speech Putin gave last night that would indicate that what we are currently witnessing is merely the end of the beginning:

                Link to video

                Elbows up!

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                • RenaudaR Renauda

                  Link to a presentation with the analyst Dmitri Trenton earlier this am on Putin and Ukraine. Worth the 45 minutes as Trenin highlights a speech Putin gave last night that would indicate that what we are currently witnessing is merely the end of the beginning:

                  Link to video

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                  @Renauda said in Putin has made America great again:

                  a speech Putin gave last night that would indicate that what we are currently witnessing is merely the end of the beginning:

                  Meanwhile, everybody seems transfixed either on achieving gender equity or the imminent collapse of Canada into a fascist dictatorship.

                  I was only joking

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                    Satire from The Borowitz Report

                    Putin Says He Deserves Ukraine as Consolation for Losing White House
                    “Losing control of the most powerful nation on earth was a bitter pill for me to swallow,” the Russian President said.

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                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                      Link to a presentation with the analyst Dmitri Trenton earlier this am on Putin and Ukraine. Worth the 45 minutes as Trenin highlights a speech Putin gave last night that would indicate that what we are currently witnessing is merely the end of the beginning:

                      Link to video

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                      @Renauda said in Putin has made America great again:

                      Link to a presentation with the analyst Dmitri Trenton earlier this am on Putin and Ukraine. Worth the 45 minutes as Trenin highlights a speech Putin gave last night that would indicate that what we are currently witnessing is merely the end of the beginning:

                      Link to video

                      Excellent interview and worth the time. Deeper understanding of not only what Putin wants but the events that have shaped his thinking. I thought from the beginning that we pushed Russia way too hard, essentially continuing the Cold War by choice. We largely created our own monster.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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