Today's musical interlude
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As some of you know, I don't care much for "classical" music. There are numerous reasons for that. First, my college professors refused to allow me to play anything else, literally saying stupid shit like "there hasn't been any real music since then." Second, Nothing pisses me off more than to have some nose in the air snob tell me that the music I like is worthless crap, "folk music", and imply that I'm somehow beneath them in musical taste because I won't agree with their view and turn into a snob with them and nod when they make stupid statements like "the classical composers will still be popular centuries from now, and you 'folk music' is forgotten in a few months".
The truth is, no one ever asks me if I appreciate "classical" music. I do. I just don't appreciate the bull shit that goes along with it from people who use it to make themselves look "sophisticated". Most of the people like that that I've met in my life can't play a damned thing if it's not written on the paper...
Anyway..... that's why I don't like classical music. It's not the music itself, it's the stuffy snobbery that goes along with it.
That said, this interlude will show you that it is unwise to dismiss "folk music" artists..... this artist wrote both pieces you're about to hear - one "folk music" and one "classical"...
You watch the skills of the musicians in the first video and tell me they're not artists ....
Link to videoNow, listen to one his "classical" works...
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Hm. There's nothing wrong at all with the music, but I for one would not classify the latter song as "classical music" but as pop/rock played with some classical orchestra instruments.
@klaus said in Today's musical interlude:
Hm. There's nothing wrong at all with the music, but I for one would not classify the latter song as "classical music" but as pop/rock played with some classical orchestra instruments.
One of my professors caught me hanging out the second floor classroom window after the bell had rung, yelling down to one of the cheerleaders practicing on the football field below. It pissed her off. She yelled at me and told me to get in my seat. Then she proceeded to say something almost as dumb as you just said. She said "no one is capable of composing classical music today". I told her I'd write a piece for her by the end of class. She said no, she didn't want to be bothered by me "plucking" on the piano during class. I told her I didn't need a piano, I'd write it without one, and play it for her at the end of class.
At the end of class I played for her what I'd written in my head, got a standing ovation from the class and gave her my best "fuck you" smile
You made me smile again.
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OK, Larry, tell me: When is a piece of music "classical music"? Why did you call this song "classical music"?
@klaus said in Today's musical interlude:
OK, Larry, tell me: When is a piece of music "classical music"? Why did you call this song "classical music"?
Why do you say it is not ?
And God I hope you don't give me that old "only composers from the classical era can compose classical music" shit..
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I like Vivaldi. The piano hadn't been invented yet. I'll bet a dollar to a donut that when the piano came along, there were people who would drown if it rained on them who said those "pop musicians playing that pop music instrument called a piano didn't qualify as classical music...
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@klaus said in Today's musical interlude:
OK, Larry, tell me: When is a piece of music "classical music"? Why did you call this song "classical music"?
Why do you say it is not ?
And God I hope you don't give me that old "only composers from the classical era can compose classical music" shit..
@larry said in Today's musical interlude:
@klaus said in Today's musical interlude:
OK, Larry, tell me: When is a piece of music "classical music"? Why did you call this song "classical music"?
Why do you say it is not ?
Because in my opinion the word "classical music" refers to music that stands in the tradition or is an evolution of Western art music. I don't hear much of that in the piece, but I hear a lot that stands in the tradition of Western pop and rock music.
Of course "classical music" can be composed today, and there are is no shortage of composers. It's just that I wouldn't apply the label to this particular piece, for the reason given above.
Now it's your turn.
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@larry said in Today's musical interlude:
@klaus said in Today's musical interlude:
OK, Larry, tell me: When is a piece of music "classical music"? Why did you call this song "classical music"?
Why do you say it is not ?
Because in my opinion the word "classical music" refers to music that stands in the tradition or is an evolution of Western art music. I don't hear much of that in the piece, but I hear a lot that stands in the tradition of Western pop and rock music.
Of course "classical music" can be composed today, and there are is no shortage of composers. It's just that I wouldn't apply the label to this particular piece, for the reason given above.
Now it's your turn.
@klaus said in Today's musical interlude:
@larry said in Today's musical interlude:
@klaus said in Today's musical interlude:
OK, Larry, tell me: When is a piece of music "classical music"? Why did you call this song "classical music"?
Why do you say it is not ?
Because in my opinion the word "classical music" refers to music that stands in the tradition or is an evolution of Western art music. I don't hear much of that in the piece, but I hear a lot that stands in the tradition of Western pop and rock music.
Now it's your turn.
Well that's just ignorant, Klaus.
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I was only joking
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@larry said in Today's musical interlude:
@klaus said in Today's musical interlude:
OK, Larry, tell me: When is a piece of music "classical music"? Why did you call this song "classical music"?
Why do you say it is not ?
Because in my opinion the word "classical music" refers to music that stands in the tradition or is an evolution of Western art music. I don't hear much of that in the piece, but I hear a lot that stands in the tradition of Western pop and rock music.
Of course "classical music" can be composed today, and there are is no shortage of composers. It's just that I wouldn't apply the label to this particular piece, for the reason given above.
Now it's your turn.
@klaus said in Today's musical interlude:
@larry said in Today's musical interlude:
@klaus said in Today's musical interlude:
OK, Larry, tell me: When is a piece of music "classical music"? Why did you call this song "classical music"?
Why do you say it is not ?
Because in my opinion the word "classical music" refers to music that stands in the tradition or is an evolution of Western art music. I don't hear much of that in the piece, but I hear a lot that stands in the tradition of Western pop and rock music.
Of course "classical music" can be composed today, and there are is no shortage of composers. It's just that I wouldn't apply the label to this particular piece, for the reason given above.
Now it's your turn.
"Stands in the tradition or is an evolution of western art music"...... so you admit that music evolves..., but we have two paths here.... 1. "In the tradition of" or 2. "Evolves from" western art music.... the piano and the various composers who wrote for it and performed on it, "stood in the tradition of western art music", and "Evolves from it". That tradition had been in place for a LONG time before the invention of the piano. Most of the pianists from that era were the "pop stars" of their day, looked down on by musical elitist who viewed the piano as vulgar. Liszt as an example, was the equivalent of the Beatles during his day. So to talk about something being "in the tradition of r an evolution of" western art music is a ridiculous statement, unless you believe "western art music" stopped evolving at some point, or Montreal is not in the West....
Blue grass is a part of the evolution of western art music also. Unless you're now going to try to claim that only 300 year old pianists created art, which opens up a whole other can of stupid.
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@george-k said in Today's musical interlude:
@Larry , what is YOUR definition of "classical" music?
Classical music is what people who would drown if it rained on them listen to because other people who would drown if it rained on them told them it made them look sophisticated if they listen to it.
Classical music began 200 years before the existence of the modern piano, and continues to be written to this very day.
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@doctor-phibes said in Today's musical interlude:
@mik said in Today's musical interlude:
Also the Russians.
All of them?
Nyet, nekulturny.
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I like classical musical, but I'm a jazz snob
I wouldn't really have described that second piece as 'classical', more classical-influenced.
Does it really matter? We stick labels on things to try and help categorize them. Then the label becomes more important than the music......
I was only joking
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@george-k said in Today's musical interlude:
@Larry , what is YOUR definition of "classical" music?
Classical music is what people who would drown if it rained on them listen to because other people who would drown if it rained on them told them it made them look sophisticated if they listen to it.
Classical music began 200 years before the existence of the modern piano, and continues to be written to this very day.
@larry said in Today's musical interlude:
Classical music is what people who would drown if it rained on them listen to because other people who would drown if it rained on them told them it made them look sophisticated if they listen to it.
That's a pretty non-responsive answer.
Classical music began 200 years before the existence of the modern piano, and continues to be written to this very day.
That's true, but doesn't define it.
How about this?
"Classical Music is something @Larry hates?"
(among other things, of course)
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
