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Not a riot

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  • L Loki

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

    @LuFins-Dad said in Not a riot:

    On the other hand, we have the Park Police giving an oddly specific statement about the tear gas.

    I still bet you ten bucks they all got last-minute word from a White House official about the President's plans, coordination sucked as there were multiple organizations present, and the clearing out was botched.

    Had the White House waited 25 damn minutes, they would have had all the excuse in the world to use any means necessary to clear the crowd.

    I agree 100%.

    On another note, I saw that tear gas helps spread Covid, so we can now blame future spread on police for gassing protesters. This is the world we live in.

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    @Loki said in Not a riot:

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

    @LuFins-Dad said in Not a riot:

    On the other hand, we have the Park Police giving an oddly specific statement about the tear gas.

    I still bet you ten bucks they all got last-minute word from a White House official about the President's plans, coordination sucked as there were multiple organizations present, and the clearing out was botched.

    Had the White House waited 25 damn minutes, they would have had all the excuse in the world to use any means necessary to clear the crowd.

    I agree 100%.

    On another note, I saw that tear gas helps spread Covid, so we can now blame future spread on police for gassing protesters. This is the world we live in.

    I agree wholeheartedly, too.

    The Brad

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      @Larry said in Not a riot:

      @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

      I posted a video still of the tear gas and we're still debating this. We've approached "I'll see it when I believe it." Protester bad. Whatever.

      You've bought into a media lie. Those were smoke bomb canisters. Not tear gas.

      WUSA 9 isn't exactly Mother Jones, or even WaPo, Larry. They are generally pretty much down the middle. They have physical evidence of this. Aqua and I are hardly on the side of Antifa and BLM, but we both know people that we trust that were on-site and said it happened.

      On the other hand, we have the Park Police giving an oddly specific statement about the tear gas.

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      #242

      @LuFins-Dad said in Not a riot:

      @Larry said in Not a riot:

      @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

      I posted a video still of the tear gas and we're still debating this. We've approached "I'll see it when I believe it." Protester bad. Whatever.

      You've bought into a media lie. Those were smoke bomb canisters. Not tear gas.

      WUSA 9 isn't exactly Mother Jones, or even WaPo, Larry. They are generally pretty much down the middle. They have physical evidence of this. Aqua and I are hardly on the side of Antifa and BLM, but we both know people that we trust that were on-site and said it happened.

      On the other hand, we have the Park Police giving an oddly specific statement about the tear gas.

      Aqua posted a video that he claimed showed the police positioning brick piles, the implication being that the police were helping the rioters. The truth is that the police had confiscated that pile of brick and were removing it. This is the level of credibility I see in most all of the defense of these "peaceful protesters". So while maybe some of your friends saw a few tear gas canisters, two facts remain - the police officially deny it, and 2, no one can disprove the possibility that a few tear gas canisters were picked up by a "peaceful protester" at another location and then dropped there to make it look like the police used tear gas.

      A peaceful protester has a point he wants to make. He makes the point, and then he goes home. He does not continue marching through the streets for days on end while all around him people are looting and pillaging and killing people. I have absolutely NO sympathy for a "peaceful protester" once that's the situation, nor do I give a damn what they have to say.

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      • George KG George K

        @Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:

        No fires were set there then, and nothing was thrown at police.

        https://www.nps.gov/subjects/uspp/6_2_20_statement_from_acting_chief_monahan.htm

        United States Park Police acting Chief Gregory Monahan.

        On Monday, June 1, the USPP worked with the United States Secret Service to have temporary fencing installed inside Lafayette Park. At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on H Street NW began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids. The protestors also climbed onto a historic building at the north end of Lafayette Park that was destroyed by arson days prior. Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police, and officers found caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street.

        You're saying the Chief of Police for the Park Service is mistaken?

        AxtremusA Away
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        Axtremus
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        Secret Service walks back denial of using pepper spray on White House protesters
        https://www.foxnews.com/politics/secret-service-walks-back-denial-of-using-tear-gas-on-white-house-protesters

        Park Police walk back tear gas denial in aggressive Lafayette Park clearing
        https://www.foxnews.com/us/park-police-walk-back-tear-gas-denial-in-lafayette-park-clearing

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          jon-nyc
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          #244

          Shocking.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            Don’t trust anyone who says walk back.

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            • CopperC Copper

              Don’t trust anyone who says walk back.

              AxtremusA Away
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              Axtremus
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              @Copper said in Not a riot:

              Don’t trust anyone who says walk back.

              Fox News says walk back.

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                Copper
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                #247

                That’s good to know, does anyone else we know say it?

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