Not a riot
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wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 01:27 last edited by
They are by and large the children of high status white folk.
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wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 01:37 last edited by jon-nyc 6 Jan 2020, 01:41
I don’t know how different they are from kids who would have fought with the Spanish Republicans in the 30s or Che’s forces in Bolivia or Angola in the 60s.
Not anywhere near as committed or brave, of course. What I mean by ‘not different’ is they’re just as deluded and have just as romanticized a view of what they’re doing.
And I don’t think they’re high status for the most part. On the contrary, and like most revolutionaries, they aspire to destroy the current order and replace it with one where they are in fact on top of the pyramid, though they are not self aware enough to realize that.
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wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 01:41 last edited by
You think rank and file antifa has a long term goal?
I think antifa skews higher status than, say, the rest of the looters do, and they also skew whiter.
But these categories can get ridiculous since official affiliations with these groups are probably few and far between.
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I don’t know how different they are from kids who would have fought with the Spanish Republicans in the 30s or Che’s forces in Bolivia or Angola in the 60s.
Not anywhere near as committed or brave, of course. What I mean by ‘not different’ is they’re just as deluded and have just as romanticized a view of what they’re doing.
And I don’t think they’re high status for the most part. On the contrary, and like most revolutionaries, they aspire to destroy the current order and replace it with one where they are in fact on top of the pyramid, though they are not self aware enough to realize that.
wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 01:44 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Not a riot:
And I don’t think they’re high status for the most part.
Yeah, probably just attorneys.
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@jon-nyc said in Not a riot:
And I don’t think they’re high status for the most part.
Yeah, probably just attorneys.
wrote on 1 Jun 2020, 02:27 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Not a riot:
@jon-nyc said in Not a riot:
And I don’t think they’re high status for the most part.
Yeah, probably just attorneys.
I didn't think any status was lower than attorneys....
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:23 last edited by
Watching the local coverage now. The majority of those being arrested are white. You can tell now, on the fourth straight night, that the cops have had about enough of this. SWAT is carrying assault weapons, not rubber bullets. They were getting on the news crews too.
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Watching the local coverage now. The majority of those being arrested are white. You can tell now, on the fourth straight night, that the cops have had about enough of this. SWAT is carrying assault weapons, not rubber bullets. They were getting on the news crews too.
wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:26 last edited by@Mik said in Not a riot:
Watching the local coverage now. The majority of those being arrested are white. You can tell now, on the fourth straight night, that the cops have had about enough of this. SWAT is carrying assault weapons, not rubber bullets. They were getting on the news crews too.
We're soon going to see if these crowds are just trying to push the envelope because of boredom, silly liberal activism, whatever, or if they're genuinely pissed.
It must be said that the vast majority of protesters are being civil, and there are many stories of protesters and officers alike trying to police their own.
Still, though. Shit. SHOW.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:30 last edited by
Just hoping it doesn’t get uglier than it has. The problem here is there is really little or nothing to be gained by continuing. The cop has been charged. All they are doing now is hardening public sentiment.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:30 last edited by
It's time to start killing them.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:32 last edited by
No, its not. Not right after the 50th anniversary of Kent State.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:34 last edited by
@Larry said in Not a riot:
It's time to start killing them.
Cop in (I believe) St Louis was bitched out and almost beaten down by a colleague after he threw a woman down unnecessarily. And here in DC last night, protesters stopped a jackass trying to light a molotov and held him until the police could take him away.
Fires and smashing windows creates great TV but I don't think that's what most people want.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:36 last edited by
As I said in another thread, I'm not talking about the protesters. You aren't separating the two groups.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:38 last edited by
One needs the other to get away with their crimes.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:43 last edited by
I think the police are able to tell the difference between a peaceful boy or girl walking down the street holding a sign and a thug smashing windows with a board.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:54 last edited by 89th 6 Feb 2020, 00:54
Today on an evening walk with my 2-year old daughter we passed 3 cops in their cars sitting in a Target parking lot. Obviously on standby, although we are a few miles on the other side of the river from DC. I approached and they were very sweet with my daughter, turning on the police lights for her after I told them she loves watching for "wee-oohs wee oohs" (her siren sound). They also gave her a police badge sticker.
I told them what I honestly was thinking about today, which is it sucks there's not an easier way to display my support for the officers during these events. I told them they deserve way more respect than they are being shown, but (as expected) they shrugged it off and just said this is how things get sometimes. The good guys. It old them to stay safe, and they joked they just hope the mayhem stays in DC.
FWIW, I have someone close to me who's in law enforcement who is changing careers (decided last year, before all this crap started recently) because he's tired of the constant harassment received by many citizens. He doesn't write tickets, and is the nicest guy in the world, yet he has to deal with the scum of the earth (drug dealers, domestic violence, deaths after a car wreck) and what he gets for it is often public ignorance and insults.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 01:00 last edited by
Lots of progressives go around saying that unless you're oppressed you can't possibly know the lived experience of being oppressed, and you cannot judge. But I think the lived experience that would be most at odds with people's imaginations would be that of police officers doing what they do every day. I really don't think most of us have any foggy idea about that lived experience and what it takes to navigate it smoothly.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 01:01 last edited by
That's cool that you did that, 89th.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 01:10 last edited by
@Horace said in Not a riot:
That's cool that you did that, 89th.
Yeah, good on ya!
When I go on my walks in town, I see police cruisers all the time. I make a point of waving to them, and have before all this shit started. I think they appreciate it.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 01:20 last edited by
Just as long as you’re using all 5 fingers.
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wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 01:31 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Not a riot:
Just as long as you’re using all 5 fingers.
(Cheap) Scotch all over my keyboard.
It's OK, I was gonna get a new one anyway.