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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by Jolly
    #17

    I lifted an excerpt of a post from another board I frequent...

    *WARNING: The following is not in the least bit Politically Correct - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

    Having been born in Minneapolis in the mid 50's and lived there the first 31 years of my life. I can tell you the population has changed greatly.

    Minneapolis was heavily white and working middle class. Heritage then was mostly Scandinavian, German and Polish. It was a hotbed of Union activity in the 50's and 60's which means democratic - that combined with politicians like Hubert Humphrey and Walter Mondale changed it into a welfare Mecca and the area started getting the poor people from Milwaukee and Chicago in the late 60's early 70's

    It had a large population of Catholics and Lutheran's, 2 religions that sponsor a bunch of immigrants every year, first with the Hmong (Vietnamese Hill people) in St Paul and then with the Somali's in Mpls. This turned the area even more democratic until it was the only state Reagan lost in '84. The middle class mostly moved - to the outer ring suburbs or out of state completely.

    You know have much more diversity but you also have much more crime -- MUCH more. *

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #18

      That's not an excuse, but an observation. These things happen in poor, inner city, high crime areas.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • 89th8 Offline
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        89th
        wrote on last edited by
        #19

        @Jolly said in Not a riot:

        anybody has any question the takedown

        @George-K haha that clip was hilarious. I also saw CNN reporter/producer/cameraman were arrested during a live segment. Probably didn't follow the police's orders to disperse, press or not.

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          I lifted an excerpt of a post from another board I frequent...

          *WARNING: The following is not in the least bit Politically Correct - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

          Having been born in Minneapolis in the mid 50's and lived there the first 31 years of my life. I can tell you the population has changed greatly.

          Minneapolis was heavily white and working middle class. Heritage then was mostly Scandinavian, German and Polish. It was a hotbed of Union activity in the 50's and 60's which means democratic - that combined with politicians like Hubert Humphrey and Walter Mondale changed it into a welfare Mecca and the area started getting the poor people from Milwaukee and Chicago in the late 60's early 70's

          It had a large population of Catholics and Lutheran's, 2 religions that sponsor a bunch of immigrants every year, first with the Hmong (Vietnamese Hill people) in St Paul and then with the Somali's in Mpls. This turned the area even more democratic until it was the only state Reagan lost in '84. The middle class mostly moved - to the outer ring suburbs or out of state completely.

          You know have much more diversity but you also have much more crime -- MUCH more. *

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          89th
          wrote on last edited by
          #20

          @Jolly said in Not a riot:

          The middle class mostly moved - to the outer ring suburbs or out of state completely.

          This is where we were already planning on looking to buy next Spring. Likely somewhere along the western edge of their "beltway".

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            That's not an excuse, but an observation. These things happen in poor, inner city, high crime areas.

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            Aqua Letifer
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            #21

            @Jolly said in Not a riot:

            That's not an excuse, but an observation. These things happen in poor, inner city, high crime areas.

            Where relations between police and residents suck at the best of times.

            Please love yourself.

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            • 89th8 89th

              @Jolly said in Not a riot:

              The middle class mostly moved - to the outer ring suburbs or out of state completely.

              This is where we were already planning on looking to buy next Spring. Likely somewhere along the western edge of their "beltway".

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              Improviso
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              @89th said in Not a riot:

              @Jolly said in Not a riot:

              The middle class mostly moved - to the outer ring suburbs or out of state completely.

              This is where we were already planning on looking to buy next Spring. Likely somewhere along the western edge of their "beltway".

              You might be able to get a "fire sale price" if you act quickly. 😬

              We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
              Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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              • CopperC Online
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                #23

                Mr. Biden gets crucified for mentioning racial stereotypes.

                But the reporting on the riots makes it sound like this is what people with dark skin must do to get justice, they do it all the time, it is how to deal with this sort of thing.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  #24

                  https://www.npr.org/2020/05/29/864732088/minneapolis-seethes-over-george-floyds-death-as-trump-calls-protesters-thugs

                  Minneapolis Seethes Over George Floyd's Death As Trump Calls Protesters 'THUGS'...

                  President Trump, who called Floyd's death "very sad and tragic" earlier this week, said early Friday that he had told Minnesota's governor that "the Military is with him all the way."

                  He also described the source of the unrest as "THUGS" — a word widely criticized for bearing racial overtones.

                  And this is CNN:

                  condemned the "criminals and thugs who tore up" the city

                  And the White House doubled down on the term afterward

                  "Whether it's arson or, you know, the looting of a liquor store ... those were thuggish acts,"

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    https://www.npr.org/2020/05/29/864732088/minneapolis-seethes-over-george-floyds-death-as-trump-calls-protesters-thugs

                    Minneapolis Seethes Over George Floyd's Death As Trump Calls Protesters 'THUGS'...

                    President Trump, who called Floyd's death "very sad and tragic" earlier this week, said early Friday that he had told Minnesota's governor that "the Military is with him all the way."

                    He also described the source of the unrest as "THUGS" — a word widely criticized for bearing racial overtones.

                    And this is CNN:

                    condemned the "criminals and thugs who tore up" the city

                    And the White House doubled down on the term afterward

                    "Whether it's arson or, you know, the looting of a liquor store ... those were thuggish acts,"

                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                    #25

                    @George-K When did the term thugs become racist? If anything, I visualize big. hulking white guys, probably Italian. Nothing racist...

                    The Brad

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                    • MikM Away
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                      Mik
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                      Trump is absolutely right. Yes there is anger. Yes, some of it is righteous. Yes, a lot of these folks take advantage of that for material gain. It's always been that way. Those are the ones he's talking about. Not the legitimate peaceful protesters.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        @George-K When did the term thugs become racist? If anything, I visualize big. hulking white guys, probably Italian. Nothing racist...

                        MikM Away
                        MikM Away
                        Mik
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                        #27

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Not a riot:

                        @George-K When did the term thugs become racist? If anything, I visualize big. hulking white guys, probably Italian. Nothing racist...

                        No, those are wise guys.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • jon-nycJ Offline
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                          #28

                          Google’s take.

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                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • HoraceH Online
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                            Horace
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                            #29

                            The word became appropriated at some point. "Thug life" and all that.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • ImprovisoI Offline
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                              Improviso
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                              #30

                              Dem University of Victoria white girls some tough bitches.😲

                              We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                              Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                              • CopperC Online
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                                Copper
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #31

                                My recollection is that thugs originated in India, sort of an outlaw gang or groups of gangs.

                                It gets a mention in the Indiana Jones movie.

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                                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  #32

                                  Seriously? It was originally a racist term, but had nothing to do with African Americans but Indians. Thugs were members of the Indian Murder/Robbery Cult in India. Over time, though, it came to mean any brutish and hulking criminal.

                                  At some point, the rap culture started adopting the word in a slightly different context.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • HoraceH Online
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                                    Horace
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                                    #33

                                    I grew up on the streets. I know thug life.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • X Offline
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                                      xenon
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                                      #34

                                      The word apparently has Sanskrit origins. Still a commonly used word in Hindi for swindler.

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                                        The word apparently has Sanskrit origins. Still a commonly used word in Hindi for swindler.

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                                        @xenon said in Not a riot:

                                        The word apparently has Sanskrit origins.

                                        Cool. I did not know that.

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                                          Hooligan is derived from Hoolihan, a well known Irish surname. Saynomore.

                                          Vandals - well, I think we all know where they came from. Bloody Jerry's at it again.

                                          The best they could come up with to insult my national group was something involving citrus fruit, presumably because we'd been Yanking their chain and they just bally well got tired of it, dontyaknow!

                                          I was only joking

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