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  • RainmanR Offline
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    Rainman
    wrote on last edited by
    #7

    I'm sorry, but if you can't make a professional-looking protest sign, there ought to be a law not allowing you to protest.
    I mean, really, look at that one large banner.
    Sloppy, unacceptable.

    On the serious side, I am very curious as to what the cop's explanation is, for holding his knee on the man's neck. There are no excuses, but I'm just curious as to what the heck he was thinking, as well as what the other three cops were thinking. There must be a backstory, but like I said, it's inexcuseable what took place.

    AND. If I were there taking that video we've all seen, I can guarantee you I would put the damn phone down, and push the cop off of the guy. I've done that once before, years ago, and got myself smashed up against a patrol car. But, I was right, and the police did not press charges against me.

    People just stand there, taking "W00t!!" video of a man dying from police brutality. Darn near as guilty, candy-ass cell phone people, in my view.

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      Axtremus
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      #8

      @Rainman said in Not a riot:

      I'm sorry, but if you can't make a professional-looking protest sign, ...

      Professional-looking protest sign ==> Astroturf, you’re a tool of organized interests
      Amateur protest sign ==> grass root, you speak for yourself

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      • RainmanR Rainman

        I'm sorry, but if you can't make a professional-looking protest sign, there ought to be a law not allowing you to protest.
        I mean, really, look at that one large banner.
        Sloppy, unacceptable.

        On the serious side, I am very curious as to what the cop's explanation is, for holding his knee on the man's neck. There are no excuses, but I'm just curious as to what the heck he was thinking, as well as what the other three cops were thinking. There must be a backstory, but like I said, it's inexcuseable what took place.

        AND. If I were there taking that video we've all seen, I can guarantee you I would put the damn phone down, and push the cop off of the guy. I've done that once before, years ago, and got myself smashed up against a patrol car. But, I was right, and the police did not press charges against me.

        People just stand there, taking "W00t!!" video of a man dying from police brutality. Darn near as guilty, candy-ass cell phone people, in my view.

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        Loki
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        #9

        @Rainman said in Not a riot:

        I'm sorry, but if you can't make a professional-looking protest sign, there ought to be a law not allowing you to protest.
        I mean, really, look at that one large banner.
        Sloppy, unacceptable.

        On the serious side, I am very curious as to what the cop's explanation is, for holding his knee on the man's neck. There are no excuses, but I'm just curious as to what the heck he was thinking, as well as what the other three cops were thinking. There must be a backstory, but like I said, it's inexcuseable what took place.

        AND. If I were there taking that video we've all seen, I can guarantee you I would put the damn phone down, and push the cop off of the guy. I've done that once before, years ago, and got myself smashed up against a patrol car. But, I was right, and the police did not press charges against me.

        People just stand there, taking "W00t!!" video of a man dying from police brutality. Darn near as guilty, candy-ass cell phone people, in my view.

        Looks guilty as hell to me. Charge them with murder and see if the body cam shows something we missed. Fire some leadership too. I feel real bad for the citizens of the area that now are the victims of a nation that is going to smack this thing like a piñata.

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
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          #10

          Haven’t seen the video yet but the guy having his hand in his pocket isn’t going to help his case.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • 89th8 Offline
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            89th
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            #11

            The video isn’t easy to watch. I usually err on the side of the police in most of these types of controversial incidents, but this one seems clear cut. I’d imagine he’ll be found guilty of murder.

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
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              #12

              The problem is that people are still reading this as a racial issue. It isn’t. It’s about the escalating use of extreme violence by the police in general.

              I haven’t had a cop’s knee in my throat, but I’ve seen one with his knee on my brother’s chest while another cop hit him in the head with a flashlight.

              Last year there were more suspicious deaths of white suspects than black. That gets ignored...

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                The problem is that people are still reading this as a racial issue. It isn’t. It’s about the escalating use of extreme violence by the police in general.

                I haven’t had a cop’s knee in my throat, but I’ve seen one with his knee on my brother’s chest while another cop hit him in the head with a flashlight.

                Last year there were more suspicious deaths of white suspects than black. That gets ignored...

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                Axtremus
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                @LuFins-Dad said in Not a riot:

                ... the escalating use of extreme violence by the police in general.

                Yes, that’s bad and that needs to change.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by George K
                  #14

                  MSNBC:

                  Scott Adams comments.

                  Pro tip: Never name your store "Target."

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
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                    #15

                    I don't think anybody has any question the takedown needs investigating and probable charges are coming. The question is why a protest morphed into a riot and why the riot was allowed to continue.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
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                      I wish there was some type of peaceful but powerful protest they could do. Like kneeling or something.

                      The Brad

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by Jolly
                        #17

                        I lifted an excerpt of a post from another board I frequent...

                        *WARNING: The following is not in the least bit Politically Correct - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

                        Having been born in Minneapolis in the mid 50's and lived there the first 31 years of my life. I can tell you the population has changed greatly.

                        Minneapolis was heavily white and working middle class. Heritage then was mostly Scandinavian, German and Polish. It was a hotbed of Union activity in the 50's and 60's which means democratic - that combined with politicians like Hubert Humphrey and Walter Mondale changed it into a welfare Mecca and the area started getting the poor people from Milwaukee and Chicago in the late 60's early 70's

                        It had a large population of Catholics and Lutheran's, 2 religions that sponsor a bunch of immigrants every year, first with the Hmong (Vietnamese Hill people) in St Paul and then with the Somali's in Mpls. This turned the area even more democratic until it was the only state Reagan lost in '84. The middle class mostly moved - to the outer ring suburbs or out of state completely.

                        You know have much more diversity but you also have much more crime -- MUCH more. *

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by Jolly
                          #18

                          That's not an excuse, but an observation. These things happen in poor, inner city, high crime areas.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • 89th8 Offline
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                            89th
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #19

                            @Jolly said in Not a riot:

                            anybody has any question the takedown

                            @George-K haha that clip was hilarious. I also saw CNN reporter/producer/cameraman were arrested during a live segment. Probably didn't follow the police's orders to disperse, press or not.

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              I lifted an excerpt of a post from another board I frequent...

                              *WARNING: The following is not in the least bit Politically Correct - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

                              Having been born in Minneapolis in the mid 50's and lived there the first 31 years of my life. I can tell you the population has changed greatly.

                              Minneapolis was heavily white and working middle class. Heritage then was mostly Scandinavian, German and Polish. It was a hotbed of Union activity in the 50's and 60's which means democratic - that combined with politicians like Hubert Humphrey and Walter Mondale changed it into a welfare Mecca and the area started getting the poor people from Milwaukee and Chicago in the late 60's early 70's

                              It had a large population of Catholics and Lutheran's, 2 religions that sponsor a bunch of immigrants every year, first with the Hmong (Vietnamese Hill people) in St Paul and then with the Somali's in Mpls. This turned the area even more democratic until it was the only state Reagan lost in '84. The middle class mostly moved - to the outer ring suburbs or out of state completely.

                              You know have much more diversity but you also have much more crime -- MUCH more. *

                              89th8 Offline
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                              #20

                              @Jolly said in Not a riot:

                              The middle class mostly moved - to the outer ring suburbs or out of state completely.

                              This is where we were already planning on looking to buy next Spring. Likely somewhere along the western edge of their "beltway".

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                That's not an excuse, but an observation. These things happen in poor, inner city, high crime areas.

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                                Aqua Letifer
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                                @Jolly said in Not a riot:

                                That's not an excuse, but an observation. These things happen in poor, inner city, high crime areas.

                                Where relations between police and residents suck at the best of times.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                • 89th8 89th

                                  @Jolly said in Not a riot:

                                  The middle class mostly moved - to the outer ring suburbs or out of state completely.

                                  This is where we were already planning on looking to buy next Spring. Likely somewhere along the western edge of their "beltway".

                                  ImprovisoI Offline
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                                  Improviso
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                                  #22

                                  @89th said in Not a riot:

                                  @Jolly said in Not a riot:

                                  The middle class mostly moved - to the outer ring suburbs or out of state completely.

                                  This is where we were already planning on looking to buy next Spring. Likely somewhere along the western edge of their "beltway".

                                  You might be able to get a "fire sale price" if you act quickly. 😬

                                  We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                                  Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                                  • CopperC Offline
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                                    #23

                                    Mr. Biden gets crucified for mentioning racial stereotypes.

                                    But the reporting on the riots makes it sound like this is what people with dark skin must do to get justice, they do it all the time, it is how to deal with this sort of thing.

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
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                                      #24

                                      https://www.npr.org/2020/05/29/864732088/minneapolis-seethes-over-george-floyds-death-as-trump-calls-protesters-thugs

                                      Minneapolis Seethes Over George Floyd's Death As Trump Calls Protesters 'THUGS'...

                                      President Trump, who called Floyd's death "very sad and tragic" earlier this week, said early Friday that he had told Minnesota's governor that "the Military is with him all the way."

                                      He also described the source of the unrest as "THUGS" — a word widely criticized for bearing racial overtones.

                                      And this is CNN:

                                      condemned the "criminals and thugs who tore up" the city

                                      And the White House doubled down on the term afterward

                                      "Whether it's arson or, you know, the looting of a liquor store ... those were thuggish acts,"

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        https://www.npr.org/2020/05/29/864732088/minneapolis-seethes-over-george-floyds-death-as-trump-calls-protesters-thugs

                                        Minneapolis Seethes Over George Floyd's Death As Trump Calls Protesters 'THUGS'...

                                        President Trump, who called Floyd's death "very sad and tragic" earlier this week, said early Friday that he had told Minnesota's governor that "the Military is with him all the way."

                                        He also described the source of the unrest as "THUGS" — a word widely criticized for bearing racial overtones.

                                        And this is CNN:

                                        condemned the "criminals and thugs who tore up" the city

                                        And the White House doubled down on the term afterward

                                        "Whether it's arson or, you know, the looting of a liquor store ... those were thuggish acts,"

                                        LuFins DadL Offline
                                        LuFins DadL Offline
                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #25

                                        @George-K When did the term thugs become racist? If anything, I visualize big. hulking white guys, probably Italian. Nothing racist...

                                        The Brad

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                                          Trump is absolutely right. Yes there is anger. Yes, some of it is righteous. Yes, a lot of these folks take advantage of that for material gain. It's always been that way. Those are the ones he's talking about. Not the legitimate peaceful protesters.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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