Not a riot
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 01:15 last edited by
@Loki said in Not a riot:
National Guard must clearly be an overreaction.
Chris Hayes (MSNBC) is confused about the unequal responses to the protests in Minnesota vs the lockdown protests.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 01:27 last edited by
Great examples/reasons why I try to dodge the cable news channels when I'm channel surfing. Oh how I wish for the "5 W's" news days...just give me the facts without all the spin, opinion, agendas, dramatics, etc.
Specific to Craig's tweet, I'm not sure why it has to be so black and white. #punintended It IS a fluid situation and one label does not fit all.
Specific to Chris "wish I was Maddow" Hayes, I wonder if his "blacklight" word was also a pun intended? Nonetheless, it's quite obvious why there was a different type of response to the recent protests/riots. Not even worth proving the point it's so obvious.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 01:30 last edited by
All of America's dumbest social ideas are around race. They can survive because everybody is terrified of being seen to take the opposite side of all the stupidity.
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@Loki said in Not a riot:
National Guard must clearly be an overreaction.
Chris Hayes (MSNBC) is confused about the unequal responses to the protests in Minnesota vs the lockdown protests.
wrote on 29 May 2020, 02:02 last edited by@George-K said in Not a riot:
@Loki said in Not a riot:
National Guard must clearly be an overreaction.
Chris Hayes (MSNBC) is confused about the unequal responses to the protests in Minnesota vs the lockdown protests.
I wonder if he is as confused by the mayor’s plea?
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 02:25 last edited by
I'm sorry, but if you can't make a professional-looking protest sign, there ought to be a law not allowing you to protest.
I mean, really, look at that one large banner.
Sloppy, unacceptable.On the serious side, I am very curious as to what the cop's explanation is, for holding his knee on the man's neck. There are no excuses, but I'm just curious as to what the heck he was thinking, as well as what the other three cops were thinking. There must be a backstory, but like I said, it's inexcuseable what took place.
AND. If I were there taking that video we've all seen, I can guarantee you I would put the damn phone down, and push the cop off of the guy. I've done that once before, years ago, and got myself smashed up against a patrol car. But, I was right, and the police did not press charges against me.
People just stand there, taking "W00t!!" video of a man dying from police brutality. Darn near as guilty, candy-ass cell phone people, in my view.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 02:32 last edited by
@Rainman said in Not a riot:
I'm sorry, but if you can't make a professional-looking protest sign, ...
Professional-looking protest sign ==> Astroturf, you’re a tool of organized interests
Amateur protest sign ==> grass root, you speak for yourself -
I'm sorry, but if you can't make a professional-looking protest sign, there ought to be a law not allowing you to protest.
I mean, really, look at that one large banner.
Sloppy, unacceptable.On the serious side, I am very curious as to what the cop's explanation is, for holding his knee on the man's neck. There are no excuses, but I'm just curious as to what the heck he was thinking, as well as what the other three cops were thinking. There must be a backstory, but like I said, it's inexcuseable what took place.
AND. If I were there taking that video we've all seen, I can guarantee you I would put the damn phone down, and push the cop off of the guy. I've done that once before, years ago, and got myself smashed up against a patrol car. But, I was right, and the police did not press charges against me.
People just stand there, taking "W00t!!" video of a man dying from police brutality. Darn near as guilty, candy-ass cell phone people, in my view.
wrote on 29 May 2020, 02:34 last edited by@Rainman said in Not a riot:
I'm sorry, but if you can't make a professional-looking protest sign, there ought to be a law not allowing you to protest.
I mean, really, look at that one large banner.
Sloppy, unacceptable.On the serious side, I am very curious as to what the cop's explanation is, for holding his knee on the man's neck. There are no excuses, but I'm just curious as to what the heck he was thinking, as well as what the other three cops were thinking. There must be a backstory, but like I said, it's inexcuseable what took place.
AND. If I were there taking that video we've all seen, I can guarantee you I would put the damn phone down, and push the cop off of the guy. I've done that once before, years ago, and got myself smashed up against a patrol car. But, I was right, and the police did not press charges against me.
People just stand there, taking "W00t!!" video of a man dying from police brutality. Darn near as guilty, candy-ass cell phone people, in my view.
Looks guilty as hell to me. Charge them with murder and see if the body cam shows something we missed. Fire some leadership too. I feel real bad for the citizens of the area that now are the victims of a nation that is going to smack this thing like a piñata.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 03:03 last edited by
Haven’t seen the video yet but the guy having his hand in his pocket isn’t going to help his case.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 03:07 last edited by
The video isn’t easy to watch. I usually err on the side of the police in most of these types of controversial incidents, but this one seems clear cut. I’d imagine he’ll be found guilty of murder.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 05:42 last edited by
The problem is that people are still reading this as a racial issue. It isn’t. It’s about the escalating use of extreme violence by the police in general.
I haven’t had a cop’s knee in my throat, but I’ve seen one with his knee on my brother’s chest while another cop hit him in the head with a flashlight.
Last year there were more suspicious deaths of white suspects than black. That gets ignored...
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The problem is that people are still reading this as a racial issue. It isn’t. It’s about the escalating use of extreme violence by the police in general.
I haven’t had a cop’s knee in my throat, but I’ve seen one with his knee on my brother’s chest while another cop hit him in the head with a flashlight.
Last year there were more suspicious deaths of white suspects than black. That gets ignored...
wrote on 29 May 2020, 05:49 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Not a riot:
... the escalating use of extreme violence by the police in general.
Yes, that’s bad and that needs to change.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 12:53 last edited by George K
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 13:26 last edited by
I don't think anybody has any question the takedown needs investigating and probable charges are coming. The question is why a protest morphed into a riot and why the riot was allowed to continue.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 13:50 last edited by
I wish there was some type of peaceful but powerful protest they could do. Like kneeling or something.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 13:54 last edited by Jolly
I lifted an excerpt of a post from another board I frequent...
*WARNING: The following is not in the least bit Politically Correct - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
Having been born in Minneapolis in the mid 50's and lived there the first 31 years of my life. I can tell you the population has changed greatly.
Minneapolis was heavily white and working middle class. Heritage then was mostly Scandinavian, German and Polish. It was a hotbed of Union activity in the 50's and 60's which means democratic - that combined with politicians like Hubert Humphrey and Walter Mondale changed it into a welfare Mecca and the area started getting the poor people from Milwaukee and Chicago in the late 60's early 70's
It had a large population of Catholics and Lutheran's, 2 religions that sponsor a bunch of immigrants every year, first with the Hmong (Vietnamese Hill people) in St Paul and then with the Somali's in Mpls. This turned the area even more democratic until it was the only state Reagan lost in '84. The middle class mostly moved - to the outer ring suburbs or out of state completely.
You know have much more diversity but you also have much more crime -- MUCH more. *
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 13:56 last edited by Jolly
That's not an excuse, but an observation. These things happen in poor, inner city, high crime areas.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 13:57 last edited by
@Jolly said in Not a riot:
anybody has any question the takedown
@George-K haha that clip was hilarious. I also saw CNN reporter/producer/cameraman were arrested during a live segment. Probably didn't follow the police's orders to disperse, press or not.
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I lifted an excerpt of a post from another board I frequent...
*WARNING: The following is not in the least bit Politically Correct - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
Having been born in Minneapolis in the mid 50's and lived there the first 31 years of my life. I can tell you the population has changed greatly.
Minneapolis was heavily white and working middle class. Heritage then was mostly Scandinavian, German and Polish. It was a hotbed of Union activity in the 50's and 60's which means democratic - that combined with politicians like Hubert Humphrey and Walter Mondale changed it into a welfare Mecca and the area started getting the poor people from Milwaukee and Chicago in the late 60's early 70's
It had a large population of Catholics and Lutheran's, 2 religions that sponsor a bunch of immigrants every year, first with the Hmong (Vietnamese Hill people) in St Paul and then with the Somali's in Mpls. This turned the area even more democratic until it was the only state Reagan lost in '84. The middle class mostly moved - to the outer ring suburbs or out of state completely.
You know have much more diversity but you also have much more crime -- MUCH more. *
wrote on 29 May 2020, 13:59 last edited by@Jolly said in Not a riot:
The middle class mostly moved - to the outer ring suburbs or out of state completely.
This is where we were already planning on looking to buy next Spring. Likely somewhere along the western edge of their "beltway".
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That's not an excuse, but an observation. These things happen in poor, inner city, high crime areas.
wrote on 29 May 2020, 15:14 last edited by@Jolly said in Not a riot:
That's not an excuse, but an observation. These things happen in poor, inner city, high crime areas.
Where relations between police and residents suck at the best of times.
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@Jolly said in Not a riot:
The middle class mostly moved - to the outer ring suburbs or out of state completely.
This is where we were already planning on looking to buy next Spring. Likely somewhere along the western edge of their "beltway".
wrote on 29 May 2020, 15:16 last edited by@89th said in Not a riot:
@Jolly said in Not a riot:
The middle class mostly moved - to the outer ring suburbs or out of state completely.
This is where we were already planning on looking to buy next Spring. Likely somewhere along the western edge of their "beltway".
You might be able to get a "fire sale price" if you act quickly.
