Not a riot
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This in Salt Lake City. Police used their riot shields to knock down an old guy with a cane. There was one other person ahead of him; area was otherwise empty. They walked away after they knocked him down.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
This in Salt Lake City. Police used their riot shields to knock down an old guy with a cane. There was one other person ahead of him; area was otherwise empty. They walked away after they knocked him down.
Got any more to that narrative? Had they been told to clear the area? Was the old guy being a disobedient asshole? What's the background?
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@Larry said in Not a riot:
I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.
The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.
Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.
But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.
@Jolly said in Not a riot:
@Larry said in Not a riot:
I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.
The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.
Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.
But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.
I am not sure of the exact definition of racism, but I see that the US has a lot of segregation, and is probably still as segregated as many years ago.
As I said before, some (alot) of this is due to a persons own choice, but I am not sure it is a good thing. As long as people have segregation, it is very difficult to understand the other side, and that leads to problems such as are having in the US cities right now.
(I will add that this is not necessary only a US thing. I have seen it around teh world.)
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@Jolly said in Not a riot:
@Larry said in Not a riot:
I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.
The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.
Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.
But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.
I am not sure of the exact definition of racism, but I see that the US has a lot of segregation, and is probably still as segregated as many years ago.
As I said before, some (alot) of this is due to a persons own choice, but I am not sure it is a good thing. As long as people have segregation, it is very difficult to understand the other side, and that leads to problems such as are having in the US cities right now.
(I will add that this is not necessary only a US thing. I have seen it around teh world.)
@taiwan_girl said in Not a riot:
@Jolly said in Not a riot:
@Larry said in Not a riot:
I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.
The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.
Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.
But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.
I am not sure of the exact definition of racism, but I see that the US has a lot of segregation, and is probably still as segregated as many years ago.
As I said before, some (alot) of this is due to a persons own choice, but I am not sure it is a good thing. As long as people have segregation, it is very difficult to understand the other side, and that leads to problems such as are having in the US cities right now.
(I will add that this is not necessary only a US thing. I have seen it around teh world.)
It's not an American thing, it's a people thing. Like likes like. I find nothing wrong with that. OTOH, if you want to fall in love with some blonde Swedish guy, I hope you have six kids and a wonderful life.
Racism exists, but it's not worth hunting for things that aren't really what I would consider racist.
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@Mik said in Not a riot:
America is MUCH less segregated than it was 50 years ago. I was there.
Dude, you were there when they abolished slavery.
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Lara Logan posted this on Twitter: Note the contradictions............(sorry if you all have seen this before)
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@Jolly said in Not a riot:
@Larry said in Not a riot:
I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.
The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.
Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.
But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.
I am not sure of the exact definition of racism, but I see that the US has a lot of segregation, and is probably still as segregated as many years ago.
As I said before, some (alot) of this is due to a persons own choice, but I am not sure it is a good thing. As long as people have segregation, it is very difficult to understand the other side, and that leads to problems such as are having in the US cities right now.
(I will add that this is not necessary only a US thing. I have seen it around teh world.)
@taiwan_girl said in Not a riot:
@Jolly said in Not a riot:
@Larry said in Not a riot:
I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.
The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.
Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.
But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.
I am not sure of the exact definition of racism, but I see that the US has a lot of segregation, and is probably still as segregated as many years ago.
As I said before, some (alot) of this is due to a persons own choice, but I am not sure it is a good thing. As long as people have segregation, it is very difficult to understand the other side, and that leads to problems such as are having in the US cities right now.
(I will add that this is not necessary only a US thing. I have seen it around teh world.)
The other side?
I question your point of view.
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Lara Logan posted this on Twitter: Note the contradictions............(sorry if you all have seen this before)
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
Not only did that police officer just lose their job I hope he/she sits in jail with a rioter/looter. No pension or retirement either.
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Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
Please love yourself.
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Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
A violent cop just stokes the unrest. Their actions should be viewed in the same light as a rioter. It amazes me that some cops have not got the memo yet. Rather than burn down cities however, they need to be stripped of their livelihoods.
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Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
How many people have been killed by police while demonstrating in the last few days?
How many people have been killed by demonstrators in the last few days?
I'll wait, patiently, for your response.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
How many people have been killed by police while demonstrating in the last few days?
How many people have been killed by demonstrators in the last few days?
I'll wait, patiently, for your response.
@George-K said in Not a riot:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
How many people have been killed by police while demonstrating in the last few days?
How many people have been killed by demonstrators in the last few days?
I'll wait, patiently, for your response.
You gonna normalize that as a percentage of both crowd sizes? Because you know the protester/cop participation ratio is not 1:1, right? Why don't you let me know what you think it is if we're playing Quiz Show.
Please love yourself.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
A violent cop just stokes the unrest. Their actions should be viewed in the same light as a rioter. It amazes me that some cops have not got the memo yet. Rather than burn down cities however, they need to be stripped of their livelihoods.
@Loki said in Not a riot:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
A violent cop just stokes the unrest. Their actions should be viewed in the same light as a rioter. It amazes me that some cops have not got the memo yet. Rather than burn down cities however, they need to be stripped of their livelihoods.
Both sides are getting tired and angrier. It's bad news for everyone involved.
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@George-K said in Not a riot:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
How many people have been killed by police while demonstrating in the last few days?
How many people have been killed by demonstrators in the last few days?
I'll wait, patiently, for your response.
You gonna normalize that as a percentage of both crowd sizes? Because you know the protester/cop participation ratio is not 1:1, right? Why don't you let me know what you think it is if we're playing Quiz Show.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
@George-K said in Not a riot:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
Amazingly, most of the protesters and the police in cities across the country are trying to keep things peaceful. But there seems to be a lot of talk about violent protesters here on TNCR and a blind eye turned toward violent cops. Only reason I post shit like this. It's definitely not the norm.
How many people have been killed by police while demonstrating in the last few days?
How many people have been killed by demonstrators in the last few days?
I'll wait, patiently, for your response.
You gonna normalize that as a percentage of both crowd sizes? Because you know the protester/cop participation ratio is not 1:1, right? Why don't you let me know what you think it is if we're playing Quiz Show.
What matters more? Crowd size? Or number of lethal weapons available?
Seems to me, the cops might have quite a few more weapons...
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It would be interesting to know the practical difficulty of the task we've set before us as a society - to maintain an effective police force, that never abuses their power. I'm not really clear, personally, about how difficult that problem is. I'm pretty sure it's pretty hard though, and I think we may be too down on ourselves regarding our current efforts towards a solution.
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They are, actually. And they've a great program, which is a big part of why they seldom make the news. We've far better than average police officers here.
You're too old, though. And you're unqualified.
