Have you noticed how many American Born Athletes are competing for China?
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Is this all driven by not being good enough for Team America? Plan B countries instead of no Olympics?
@xenon said in Have you noticed how many American Born Athletes are competing for China?:
Is this all driven by not being good enough for Team America? Plan B countries instead of no Olympics?
For many, yes. For others, it’s to connect with their heritage. For others, they simply have to live/train in the US because their own country doesn’t have the program/facilities needed.
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@xenon said in Have you noticed how many American Born Athletes are competing for China?:
Is this all driven by not being good enough for Team America? Plan B countries instead of no Olympics?
For many, yes. For others, it’s to connect with their heritage. For others, they simply have to live/train in the US because their own country doesn’t have the program/facilities needed.
@89th said in Have you noticed how many American Born Athletes are competing for China?:
@xenon said in Have you noticed how many American Born Athletes are competing for China?:
Is this all driven by not being good enough for Team America? Plan B countries instead of no Olympics?
For many, yes. For others, it’s to connect with their heritage. For others, they simply have to live/train in the US because their own country doesn’t have the program/facilities needed.
I’m speaking specifically about those born in the US and Canada. That free skier is a citizen of the US, and China does not allow dual citizenship. She learned to ski in the US and trained competitively with Team USA. It is absurd to give China the gold medal when that skier never even skied in competition in China until this week.
The Brad
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@89th said in Have you noticed how many American Born Athletes are competing for China?:
@xenon said in Have you noticed how many American Born Athletes are competing for China?:
Is this all driven by not being good enough for Team America? Plan B countries instead of no Olympics?
For many, yes. For others, it’s to connect with their heritage. For others, they simply have to live/train in the US because their own country doesn’t have the program/facilities needed.
I’m speaking specifically about those born in the US and Canada. That free skier is a citizen of the US, and China does not allow dual citizenship. She learned to ski in the US and trained competitively with Team USA. It is absurd to give China the gold medal when that skier never even skied in competition in China until this week.
Are you sure? I seem to think there are plenty of Chinese permanently living here who travel freely back to China and carry a Canadian passport to come back to Canada. I know Russians are allowed dual citizenship and move back and forth without issue provided that they have registered their dual status with the RF of Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
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Are you sure? I seem to think there are plenty of Chinese permanently living here who travel freely back to China and carry a Canadian passport to come back to Canada. I know Russians are allowed dual citizenship and move back and forth without issue provided that they have registered their dual status with the RF of Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
@renauda said in Have you noticed how many American Born Athletes are competing for China?:
Are you sure? I seem to think there are plenty of Chinese permanently living here who travel freely back to China and carry a Canadian passport to come back to Canada. I know Russians are allowed dual citizenship and move back and forth without issue provided that they have registered their dual status with the RF of Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
https://www.mfa.gov.cn/ce/ceus//eng/ywzn/lsyw/vpna/faq/t710012.htm
The Olympic Athletes have supposedly had to renounce their citizenships in the US and Canada. Including this hockey player from Chicago
Obviously he is there to learn about his heritage…
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@renauda said in Have you noticed how many American Born Athletes are competing for China?:
Are you sure? I seem to think there are plenty of Chinese permanently living here who travel freely back to China and carry a Canadian passport to come back to Canada. I know Russians are allowed dual citizenship and move back and forth without issue provided that they have registered their dual status with the RF of Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
https://www.mfa.gov.cn/ce/ceus//eng/ywzn/lsyw/vpna/faq/t710012.htm
The Olympic Athletes have supposedly had to renounce their citizenships in the US and Canada. Including this hockey player from Chicago
Obviously he is there to learn about his heritage…
I wasn’t aware of that. Renouncing US citizenship is not that easy, quick or cheap. A very close friend and former colleague of mine recently renounced hers - she was born in New Jersey to a Green Carded Finnish father and Canadian mother who moved back to Helsinki when she was a year or two old. She grew up in Finland received her university degree there then moved to Canada as she was granted Canadian citizenship through her mother. For the forty years she had living here she hung on to all three citizenships although she never used her US citizenship or annually filed with IRS. Her mistake was that she kept current her US passport. About six or seven years ago after receiving notice that the IRS might come looking for her and her personal bank account here in Canada, she began the process to renounce her US citizenship. It took mountains of IRS and other paperwork going as far back as her teen years in Finland, about $10k for administrative fees and a US licensed immigration lawyer to review, notarize and legalize documents. It took about five years to complete the process. All was finalized this past fall.
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I wasn’t aware of that. Renouncing US citizenship is not that easy, quick or cheap. A very close friend and former colleague of mine recently renounced hers - she was born in New Jersey to a Green Carded Finnish father and Canadian mother who moved back to Helsinki when she was a year or two old. She grew up in Finland received her university degree there then moved to Canada as she was granted Canadian citizenship through her mother. For the forty years she had living here she hung on to all three citizenships although she never used her US citizenship or annually filed with IRS. Her mistake was that she kept current her US passport. About six or seven years ago after receiving notice that the IRS might come looking for her and her personal bank account here in Canada, she began the process to renounce her US citizenship. It took mountains of IRS and other paperwork going as far back as her teen years in Finland, about $10k for administrative fees and a US licensed immigration lawyer to review, notarize and legalize documents. It took about five years to complete the process. All was finalized this past fall.
Yes, mainland china does not allow dual citizenship. From my understand, if you carry a mainland Chinese passport, you are not allowed to have any other.
I think Germany may also be like that. @Kalus may know about that.
