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  • C Copper
    28 May 2020, 17:29

    https://www.linkedin.com/feed/news/heres-whos-hiring-right-now-4525187/

    Get a job

    Here's who's hiring right now

    By Andrew Seaman, Editor at LinkedIn
    Updated 20 hours ago

    Some industries — from shipping to online learning — are hiring to meet coronavirus-related demand. Here are some of the companies hiring right now.

    • Instacart says it’s looking to hire 300,000 contract workers over the next three months.
    • Amazon says it’s looking to hire 175,000 new workers for its fulfillment centers and delivery network.
    • Albertsons is hiring 50,000 people across their companies for open roles.
    • CVS Health is hiring 50,000 employees to serve in various capacities across its business.
    • Walmart is hiring 50,000 workers for its distribution and fulfillment centers.
    • Dollar General says it's looking to add 50,000 employees by the end of April.
    • FedEx is hiring 35,000 people for essential roles.
    • Allied Universal is hiring more than 30,000 people for open positions.
    • Taco Bell is hiring 30,000 people to work at its restaurants.
    • Pizza Hut is hiring 30,000 permanent employees to serve as drivers, shift leaders, cooks and managers.
    • Ace Hardware is hiring 30,000 people to work in its stores nationwide.
    • Lowe’s is hiring 30,000 employees to meet the demand created by the coronavirus.
    • Dollar Tree, which is also the parent company of Family Dollar, is hiring 25,000 workers for its stores and distribution centers.
    • Walgreens is hiring 25,000 employees for permanent and temporary roles.
    • The Home Depot is hiring people for more than 22,000 jobs.
    • Instawork is hiring 20,000 workers over the next two months.
    • Papa John's is hiring 20,000 workers to meet demand.
    • 7-Eleven is hiring up to 20,000 employees due to increased demand.
    • Kroger is looking to hire an additional 20,000 workers across the U.S.
    • AutoZone plans to hire 17,000 people over the next three months.
    • Citi is hiring people for more than 15,000 positions globally.
    • See the full list by clicking here.
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    xenon
    wrote on 28 May 2020, 17:31 last edited by xenon
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    @Copper Does the total add up to at least 40 million?

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      Copper
      wrote on 28 May 2020, 17:33 last edited by
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      That's not my problem.

      If you want some money, get a job.

      We have a great example of how to do this in the whitehouse right now.

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      • C Copper
        28 May 2020, 17:33

        That's not my problem.

        If you want some money, get a job.

        We have a great example of how to do this in the whitehouse right now.

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        xenon
        wrote on 28 May 2020, 17:36 last edited by
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        @Copper It becomes your problem if it causes your retirement savings to collapse.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 28 May 2020, 17:36 last edited by Jolly
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          Problem is, a lot of those jobs don't pay squat.

          I know a lady in her fifties that works as a bartender in an upscale restaurant. With tips, she averaged $27/hr in 2019.

          I doubt Amazon or Wal-Mart pay that much...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • X xenon
            28 May 2020, 17:36

            @Copper It becomes your problem if it causes your retirement savings to collapse.

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            Copper
            wrote on 28 May 2020, 17:45 last edited by
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            @xenon said in Another Stimulus/Relief Package?:

            @Copper It becomes your problem if it causes your retirement savings to collapse.

            And if everyone dies it is also my problem.

            Woe is me, what could I do?

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            • C Copper
              28 May 2020, 17:45

              @xenon said in Another Stimulus/Relief Package?:

              @Copper It becomes your problem if it causes your retirement savings to collapse.

              And if everyone dies it is also my problem.

              Woe is me, what could I do?

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              xenon
              wrote on 28 May 2020, 17:47 last edited by xenon
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              @Copper You can't do anything. That's why we have a government - collective action. (You know security, justice, infrastructure, safety, etc.)

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 28 May 2020, 17:48 last edited by
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                I’m likely hiring...Several of my staff don’t want to come back until their unemployment benefits dry up. I’ve been a little patient, but am running out of time and need people to fill those roles.

                The Brad

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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on 28 May 2020, 17:51 last edited by
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                  I'm very actively pursuing available opportunities. Lotta contract work.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • X xenon
                    28 May 2020, 17:47

                    @Copper You can't do anything. That's why we have a government - collective action. (You know security, justice, infrastructure, safety, etc.)

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 28 May 2020, 18:44 last edited by
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                    @xenon said in Another Stimulus/Relief Package?:

                    @Copper You can't do anything. That's why we have a government - collective action. (You know security, justice, infrastructure, safety, etc.)

                    Right there is the fallacy. You can’t fix the whole thing, no. But if you work at it you can fix your own situation. There are of course exceptions and we have safety nets for them. But as a rule you can help yourself.

                    Perhaps $15 an hour at Amazon is not great but you will have benefits and it is something.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • X xenon
                      28 May 2020, 17:23

                      I don't know what the danger of collapse in important areas of the economy is right now (e.g., rental/mortgage, car payments, etc.)

                      That should be avoided. Times like this are when you dig deep and use debt. Times like this also underscore why profligate debt during good times makes no sense.

                      In terms of implementation - maybe it's low interest loans extended directly to people, maybe it's unemployment benefits, etc. I don't know.

                      And again - it's all contingent on the bottom out of the economy falling out.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 28 May 2020, 18:46 last edited by
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                      @xenon said in Another Stimulus/Relief Package?:

                      Times like this are when you dig deep and use debt. Times like this also underscore why profligate debt during good times makes no sense.

                      On this we totally agree.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • M Mik
                        28 May 2020, 18:44

                        @xenon said in Another Stimulus/Relief Package?:

                        @Copper You can't do anything. That's why we have a government - collective action. (You know security, justice, infrastructure, safety, etc.)

                        Right there is the fallacy. You can’t fix the whole thing, no. But if you work at it you can fix your own situation. There are of course exceptions and we have safety nets for them. But as a rule you can help yourself.

                        Perhaps $15 an hour at Amazon is not great but you will have benefits and it is something.

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                        xenon
                        wrote on 28 May 2020, 18:55 last edited by
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                        @Mik To be clear - I completely agree that you should do everything in your power to earn for yourself. My comment was more in the lens of recessions and economic crises.

                        The jobs available sometimes just does not equal the demand for them in the short term. Not everyone can start a biz to compensate (the gig economy is hurting hard right now).

                        I'm not even making a humanitarian argument to help people without a job - I'm saying because of the interconnectedness of the economy, once too many folks are out of work, the whole thing can come crashing down.

                        In a bygone age (I think farming was still 50% of the economy in 1920) - most could just subsist and rely on their social networks. That world just doesn't exist anymore.

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                        • A Aqua Letifer
                          28 May 2020, 17:51

                          I'm very actively pursuing available opportunities. Lotta contract work.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 28 May 2020, 19:59 last edited by
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                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Another Stimulus/Relief Package?:

                          I'm very actively pursuing available opportunities. Lotta contract work.

                          Benefits. Benefits are as important as salary. It's not how much money you make, it's how well you live...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • L LuFins Dad
                            28 May 2020, 17:48

                            I’m likely hiring...Several of my staff don’t want to come back until their unemployment benefits dry up. I’ve been a little patient, but am running out of time and need people to fill those roles.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 28 May 2020, 20:01 last edited by
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                            @LuFins-Dad said in Another Stimulus/Relief Package?:

                            I’m likely hiring...Several of my staff don’t want to come back until their unemployment benefits dry up. I’ve been a little patient, but am running out of time and need people to fill those roles.

                            I think there are going to be some very sad people this fall...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • J Jolly
                              28 May 2020, 19:59

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Another Stimulus/Relief Package?:

                              I'm very actively pursuing available opportunities. Lotta contract work.

                              Benefits. Benefits are as important as salary. It's not how much money you make, it's how well you live...

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                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on 28 May 2020, 20:34 last edited by
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                              @Jolly said in Another Stimulus/Relief Package?:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Another Stimulus/Relief Package?:

                              I'm very actively pursuing available opportunities. Lotta contract work.

                              Benefits. Benefits are as important as salary. It's not how much money you make, it's how well you live...

                              Medical benefits I've got covered. The other benefits, well, anything else would be better than right now.

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • X xenon
                                28 May 2020, 18:55

                                @Mik To be clear - I completely agree that you should do everything in your power to earn for yourself. My comment was more in the lens of recessions and economic crises.

                                The jobs available sometimes just does not equal the demand for them in the short term. Not everyone can start a biz to compensate (the gig economy is hurting hard right now).

                                I'm not even making a humanitarian argument to help people without a job - I'm saying because of the interconnectedness of the economy, once too many folks are out of work, the whole thing can come crashing down.

                                In a bygone age (I think farming was still 50% of the economy in 1920) - most could just subsist and rely on their social networks. That world just doesn't exist anymore.

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 28 May 2020, 20:39 last edited by Mik
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                                @xenon said in Another Stimulus/Relief Package?:

                                @Mik To be clear - I completely agree that you should do everything in your power to earn for yourself. My comment was more in the lens of recessions and economic crises.

                                The jobs available sometimes just does not equal the demand for them in the short term. Not everyone can start a biz to compensate (the gig economy is hurting hard right now).

                                I'm not even making a humanitarian argument to help people without a job - I'm saying because of the interconnectedness of the economy, once too many folks are out of work, the whole thing can come crashing down.

                                In a bygone age (I think farming was still 50% of the economy in 1920) - most could just subsist and rely on their social networks. That world just doesn't exist anymore.

                                I understand, but the problem is still that every time something happens everyone looks to the federal government to fix everything. Cincinnati's mayor is screaming they need federal money to make up for their lost revenue. This of course is nonsense. The federal government has lost revenue as well. That they can print money does not mean they should.

                                If everyone does what they can to fix their own problems first the federal government has to do much less, which is as it should be. We have gotten away from that mindset to one where 'I can do anything I want and you have to make it easy for me' has taken over.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • L LuFins Dad
                                  28 May 2020, 17:48

                                  I’m likely hiring...Several of my staff don’t want to come back until their unemployment benefits dry up. I’ve been a little patient, but am running out of time and need people to fill those roles.

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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on 29 May 2020, 03:32 last edited by
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                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Another Stimulus/Relief Package?:

                                  I’m likely hiring...Several of my staff don’t want to come back until their unemployment benefits dry up. I’ve been a little patient, but am running out of time and need people to fill those roles.

                                  Why do you wait at all? Start interviewing people and have backup candidates ready to go. If the existing employees don’t want to return to work by the time you need that work done, put the new candidates in. May even want to do that a little earlier to factor in learning curve for the new people.

                                  If you haven’t interview yet, start soon because you may find that the sort of people you think you want may not want to work for what you are willing to offer today, they may want to wait until their unemployment benefits dry up too. In that case you would have to make different staffing plans and/or up your employment offers. You won’t know that until you start interviewing and negotiating with potential replacement candidates.

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                                    Rainman
                                    wrote on 29 May 2020, 04:03 last edited by
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                                    Hey, hire Ax to manage the store.
                                    I'm sure you never thought of any of his advice!

                                    Or, hire me. I'm really good. Better than Ax, actually.
                                    If it weren't for that legal thing of me not being allowed to cross state lines, I'd be there man!

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 29 May 2020, 12:59 last edited by
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                                      Well, in fairness, Ax could demo the hell out of those Yammies.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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