Another Stimulus/Relief Package?
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@Copper You can't do anything. That's why we have a government - collective action. (You know security, justice, infrastructure, safety, etc.)
@xenon said in Another Stimulus/Relief Package?:
@Copper You can't do anything. That's why we have a government - collective action. (You know security, justice, infrastructure, safety, etc.)
Right there is the fallacy. You can’t fix the whole thing, no. But if you work at it you can fix your own situation. There are of course exceptions and we have safety nets for them. But as a rule you can help yourself.
Perhaps $15 an hour at Amazon is not great but you will have benefits and it is something.
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I don't know what the danger of collapse in important areas of the economy is right now (e.g., rental/mortgage, car payments, etc.)
That should be avoided. Times like this are when you dig deep and use debt. Times like this also underscore why profligate debt during good times makes no sense.
In terms of implementation - maybe it's low interest loans extended directly to people, maybe it's unemployment benefits, etc. I don't know.
And again - it's all contingent on the bottom out of the economy falling out.
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@xenon said in Another Stimulus/Relief Package?:
@Copper You can't do anything. That's why we have a government - collective action. (You know security, justice, infrastructure, safety, etc.)
Right there is the fallacy. You can’t fix the whole thing, no. But if you work at it you can fix your own situation. There are of course exceptions and we have safety nets for them. But as a rule you can help yourself.
Perhaps $15 an hour at Amazon is not great but you will have benefits and it is something.
@Mik To be clear - I completely agree that you should do everything in your power to earn for yourself. My comment was more in the lens of recessions and economic crises.
The jobs available sometimes just does not equal the demand for them in the short term. Not everyone can start a biz to compensate (the gig economy is hurting hard right now).
I'm not even making a humanitarian argument to help people without a job - I'm saying because of the interconnectedness of the economy, once too many folks are out of work, the whole thing can come crashing down.
In a bygone age (I think farming was still 50% of the economy in 1920) - most could just subsist and rely on their social networks. That world just doesn't exist anymore.
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I'm very actively pursuing available opportunities. Lotta contract work.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Another Stimulus/Relief Package?:
I'm very actively pursuing available opportunities. Lotta contract work.
Benefits. Benefits are as important as salary. It's not how much money you make, it's how well you live...
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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I’m likely hiring...Several of my staff don’t want to come back until their unemployment benefits dry up. I’ve been a little patient, but am running out of time and need people to fill those roles.
@LuFins-Dad said in Another Stimulus/Relief Package?:
I’m likely hiring...Several of my staff don’t want to come back until their unemployment benefits dry up. I’ve been a little patient, but am running out of time and need people to fill those roles.
I think there are going to be some very sad people this fall...
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Another Stimulus/Relief Package?:
I'm very actively pursuing available opportunities. Lotta contract work.
Benefits. Benefits are as important as salary. It's not how much money you make, it's how well you live...
@Jolly said in Another Stimulus/Relief Package?:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Another Stimulus/Relief Package?:
I'm very actively pursuing available opportunities. Lotta contract work.
Benefits. Benefits are as important as salary. It's not how much money you make, it's how well you live...
Medical benefits I've got covered. The other benefits, well, anything else would be better than right now.
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@Mik To be clear - I completely agree that you should do everything in your power to earn for yourself. My comment was more in the lens of recessions and economic crises.
The jobs available sometimes just does not equal the demand for them in the short term. Not everyone can start a biz to compensate (the gig economy is hurting hard right now).
I'm not even making a humanitarian argument to help people without a job - I'm saying because of the interconnectedness of the economy, once too many folks are out of work, the whole thing can come crashing down.
In a bygone age (I think farming was still 50% of the economy in 1920) - most could just subsist and rely on their social networks. That world just doesn't exist anymore.
@xenon said in Another Stimulus/Relief Package?:
@Mik To be clear - I completely agree that you should do everything in your power to earn for yourself. My comment was more in the lens of recessions and economic crises.
The jobs available sometimes just does not equal the demand for them in the short term. Not everyone can start a biz to compensate (the gig economy is hurting hard right now).
I'm not even making a humanitarian argument to help people without a job - I'm saying because of the interconnectedness of the economy, once too many folks are out of work, the whole thing can come crashing down.
In a bygone age (I think farming was still 50% of the economy in 1920) - most could just subsist and rely on their social networks. That world just doesn't exist anymore.
I understand, but the problem is still that every time something happens everyone looks to the federal government to fix everything. Cincinnati's mayor is screaming they need federal money to make up for their lost revenue. This of course is nonsense. The federal government has lost revenue as well. That they can print money does not mean they should.
If everyone does what they can to fix their own problems first the federal government has to do much less, which is as it should be. We have gotten away from that mindset to one where 'I can do anything I want and you have to make it easy for me' has taken over.
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I’m likely hiring...Several of my staff don’t want to come back until their unemployment benefits dry up. I’ve been a little patient, but am running out of time and need people to fill those roles.
@LuFins-Dad said in Another Stimulus/Relief Package?:
I’m likely hiring...Several of my staff don’t want to come back until their unemployment benefits dry up. I’ve been a little patient, but am running out of time and need people to fill those roles.
Why do you wait at all? Start interviewing people and have backup candidates ready to go. If the existing employees don’t want to return to work by the time you need that work done, put the new candidates in. May even want to do that a little earlier to factor in learning curve for the new people.
If you haven’t interview yet, start soon because you may find that the sort of people you think you want may not want to work for what you are willing to offer today, they may want to wait until their unemployment benefits dry up too. In that case you would have to make different staffing plans and/or up your employment offers. You won’t know that until you start interviewing and negotiating with potential replacement candidates.
