Xenon, the White Supremacist

Doctor Phibes

Why do American conservatives suddenly dislike Trudeau so much? He's clearly a bit crap, but it has to be said there are a lot worse leaders to get your knickers in a twist over. I've heard more praise for Vladimir Putin, and that guy's a total cunt.

They do realise that Canada isn't actually part of 'Murrica, right?

Or maybe they've just given up tidying up their own room as an insurmountable task, and decided it would be much easier to complain about the mess in the neighbour's yard?

Renauda

@doctor-phibes said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

Why do American conservatives suddenly dislike Trudeau so much?

Don’t know and don’t care. It’s their problem if they can’t get their mind around the fact a PM is thought of differently by the electorate in a parliamentary system than is a president in a republic.

I've heard more praise for Vladimir Putin, and that guy's a total cunt..

Probably because Putin hates and fears George Soros as much, if not more, than they. Besides that Putin is quite respectful towards a well known American real estate tycoon and one time politician, whose business empire attracts the good will and offshore investments of close friends and associates of the Russian President.

They do realise that Canada isn't actually part of 'Murrica, right?

I have my doubts.

Doctor Phibes

The argument seems to be 'HOW DARE YOU DO THIS? LOOK AT ALL THE REALLY VIOLENT PROTESTS IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT COUNTRY THAT WERE ALLOWED TO TAKE PLACE BY OUR SHIT GOVERNMENT!!!!'

Renauda

@doctor-phibes

I hope you’re not suggesting they might be envious. I figured it was because we are shutting down their funding schemes to the occupiers and assumed right to interfere in what us none of their business.

xenon

Internet media helps political movements and concerns go more global.

The nation state may just be a pit stop in the evolution of politics.

Doctor Phibes

@xenon said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

Internet media helps political movements and concerns go more global.

The nation state may just be a pit stop in the evolution of politics.

Right, and of all the tyrannical countries to complain about, Canada is right on top of the list!

xenon

@doctor-phibes said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

@xenon said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

Internet media helps political movements and concerns go more global.

The nation state may just be a pit stop in the evolution of politics.

Right, and of all the tyrannical countries to complain about, Canada is right on top of the list!

Well - as you pointed out - I think what appealed to some people was a political kinship with the truckers. No one really gives a shit about Canadian politics. (Not even Canadians....)

Doctor Phibes

@xenon said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

No one really gives a shit about Canadian politics. (Not even Canadians....)

As a Canadian/British dual-national living in the US, I must admit I find the politics of the north quite reassuring

Renauda

@xenon said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

@doctor-phibes said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

@xenon said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

No one really gives a shit about Canadian politics. (Not even Canadians....)

I can understand people outside the country being disinterested, after all other than a few arcane international trade and investment policies what happens here politically is no consequence to others. But to include Canadians themselves among the disinterested is a quite an exaggeration.

xenon

@renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

But to include Canadians themselves among the disinterested is a quite an exaggeration.

I'm being cheeky, but I grew up in Canada and moved to the States a few years ago.

Political discussion in Canada are positively anodyne compared the U.S. In the years of Trump, I wouldn't be surprised if American politics got more front-page coverage in Canada than Canadian politics.

Jolly

@xenon said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

Internet media helps political movements and concerns go more global.

The nation state may just be a pit stop in the evolution of politics.

Stop and look how the Ottawa protest has been framed (and I do mean framed) in Canadian media. I often complain about the bias of American media. Nice to know our friends to the North are not one whit better.

Renauda

@xenon

Roger that. I was aware that you are originally from here - the lower mainland if I’m not mistaken. Politics there is different from anywhere else in country.

xenon

@jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

@xenon said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

Internet media helps political movements and concerns go more global.

The nation state may just be a pit stop in the evolution of politics.

Stop and look how the Ottawa protest has been framed (and I do mean framed) in Canadian media. I often complain about the bias of American media. Nice to know our friends to the North are not one whit better.

Yeah - they're taking their cues from twitter and the same sort of thinkers as American journalists.

BLM was a big deal in Canada. The way the residential school controversy unfolded as followed an American-media type pattern.

Polities are starting to create some connective tissue across countries.

xenon

@renauda said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

@xenon

Roger that. I was aware that you are originally from here - the lower mainland if I’m not mistaken. Politics there is different from anywhere else in country.

Very different. I sometimes call it fake Canada for a few different reasons.

Renauda

@jolly said in Xenon, the White Supremacist:

Stop and look how the Ottawa protest has been framed (and I do mean framed) in Canadian media. I often complain about the bias of American media. Nice to know our friends to the North are not one whit better.

Since you posted that shitshow Tucker Carlson presented on the protests, I have made a point of checking daily what Fox News is posting about it on their website.

Hate to tell you but what Fox is posting bears little or no relation to what is actually happening here or how resentful the vast majority of Canadians are feeling towards these protests. In fact I would it put it to you that Fox is deliberately publishing outright lies with intent to sow disinformation and incite militancy. A lot of what it gets appears to come from Rebel News, a Canadian fake news site that caters to the lunatic fringe of the Canadian anglophone right wing - you know, the same vermin with the arms and ammo that were arrested Monday am at the Coutts border crossing.

So there you have it. Your sources are more shit than any of those I rely upon.

But I am certain that doesn’t come as surprise to just me alone on this forum. It should not to you either.

Jolly

Eat your pablum like a good lad.

The same media sources you ballyhoo, have been instrumental in one of the most egregious and continued lies to the world. And believe it or not, FOX commentary got it right.

For many years, a goodly number of Russians believed Pravda. Didn't mean the paper was right.