Neil Young: "Rogan or me."
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@jon-nyc said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
Just saw this. I wonder if it has to do with Rogan and a new platform.
Wait, don’t you loathe Rubin?
@lufins-dad said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
Wait, don’t you loathe Rubin?
I just think he's a tool. Bit too much of a convert's zeal. FWIW, I don't follow him, that was a 'you might like' suggested tweet shown to me by twitter's algorithm.
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LOL. I missed it when they left, but it looks like they're back
Crosby, Stills & Nash music can now be streamed on Spotify once again, five months after David Crosby, Graham Nash and Stephen Stills requested their labels remove their recordings in support of Neil Young‘s decision to leave the streaming service.
Their music is available via Spotify as of Saturday (July 2). CSN will donate proceeds from streams to COVID-19 charities for at least a month, a source tells Billboard.
In February, the band members commented, “We support Neil and we agree with him that there is dangerous disinformation being aired on Spotify’s Joe Rogan podcast. While we always value alternate points of view, knowingly spreading disinformation during this global pandemic has deadly consequences. Until real action is taken to show that a concern for humanity must be balanced with commerce, we don’t want our music — or the music we made together — to be on the same platform.”
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Neil Young has posted an open letter to his management team and record label demanding that they remove his music from Spotify. “I am doing this because Spotify is spreading fake information about vaccines – potentially causing death to those who believe the disinformation being spread by them,” he writes. “Please act on this immediately today and keep me informed of the time schedule.”
“I want you to let Spotify know immediately TODAY that I want all my music off their platform,” he continues. “They can have [Joe] Rogan or Young. Not both.” Young is referencing the steady stream of misinformation about vaccines that Joe Rogan has peddled on The Joe Rogan Experience. Last month, 270 doctors, physicians, and science educators signed an open letter asking Spotify to stop spreading Rogan’s baseless claims.
“With an estimated 11 million listeners per episode, JRE, which is hosted exclusively on Spotify, is the world’s largest podcast and has tremendous influence,” the letter reads. “Spotify has a responsibility to mitigate the spread of misinformation on its platform, though the company presently has no misinformation policy.”
Young removed most of his music from Spotify several years ago because he felt the sound quality on the service was too low, but he ultimately relented. “That’s where people get music,” he told Rolling Stone in 2019. “I want people to hear my music no matter what they have to get through to do it. I’m just trying to make it so they hear a lot more and enjoy it a lot more, but sell it for the same price because music is music.”
Well, what does the contract say?
@George-K said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
“Spotify has a responsibility to mitigate the spread of misinformation on its platform, though the company presently has no misinformation policy.”
Good for him. I wonder if he redd the Atlantic article that Mik posted here?
This is great. What the world needs is more celebs coming forward this way.
Assuming his accusations are accurate, of course.
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LOL. I missed it when they left, but it looks like they're back
America's long national nightmare is over
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Neil Young Will Return to Spotify, Ending Protest of Joe Rogan
Neil Young will return his music to Spotify, two years after withdrawing it in protest over the podcast host Joe Rogan’s shows about Covid-19, the veteran rock musician announced on his website Tuesday.
Without naming Rogan, Young wrote: “My decision comes as music services Apple and Amazon have started serving the same disinformation podcast features I had opposed at Spotify.” Rogan previously had an exclusive deal with Spotify, which has since been renewed to allow wider distribution of his show.
IOW, "My principles apply to Spotify, but since Apple and Amazon are doing it too, I guess I'll cave."
And this:
Last year, in an analysis of how Young’s streaming activity had changed since withdrawing his music from Spotify, Billboard estimated that the protest had cost him about $16,000 in royalties per month.
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@89th said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
Guess the dollar wins out over his principles.
I seriously doubt he cares about the money.
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@Jolly said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
Money talks, bullshit walks.
He makes millions a year outside of Spotify. The 16k a month is a drop in the bucket for him.
Please love yourself.
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@Jolly said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
Money talks, bullshit walks.
He makes millions a year outside of Spotify. The 16k a month is a drop in the bucket for him.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
@Jolly said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
Money talks, bullshit walks.
He makes millions a year outside of Spotify. The 16k a month is a drop in the bucket for him.
I suspect you're right.
So, why the return? What's changed?
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@Jolly said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
Money talks, bullshit walks.
He makes millions a year outside of Spotify. The 16k a month is a drop in the bucket for him.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
@Jolly said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
Money talks, bullshit walks.
He makes millions a year outside of Spotify. The 16k a month is a drop in the bucket for him.
But what does he spend on his lifestyle?
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
@Jolly said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
Money talks, bullshit walks.
He makes millions a year outside of Spotify. The 16k a month is a drop in the bucket for him.
But what does he spend on his lifestyle?
@Jolly said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
@Aqua-Letifer said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
@Jolly said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
Money talks, bullshit walks.
He makes millions a year outside of Spotify. The 16k a month is a drop in the bucket for him.
But what does he spend on his lifestyle?
Yours and George's questions are good ones, but I don't think he's at a level where the 16k monthly would move the needle.
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I think I see the turnaround.
Music Catalog Sale
In January 2021, Neil revealed that he had sold a 50% stake in his music catalog for $150 million. He sold half the copyright and income to roughly 1,120 songs to an investment firm called Hipgnosis.Spotify Joe Rogan Feud
In January 2022, Neil posted a letter to social media and his website in which he gave >Spotify an ultimatum in which they either remove his music OR remove Joe Rogan's podcast. He made the demand because he believes Rogan's show spreads vaccine misinformation that leads to preventable deaths. In the end, Spotfiy chose not to remove Rogan's podcast and therefore Neil made good on his threat.Interestingly, at the time of the threat Neil didn't actually own his master recordings – the right that gives someone the ability to decide where music is licensed (for example, on Spotify). Warner Music owns his masters and essentially did him a favor by forcing Spotify to take the music offline. The real loser in this decision is Hipgnosis which, as we just mentioned, had just paid $150 million for 50% of his royalty stream. Royalty streams are generated on platforms like Spotify.
https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rock-stars/neil-young-net-worth/
