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  • J jon-nyc
    24 Jan 2022, 22:33

    You guys are cruel.

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    Horace
    wrote on 24 Jan 2022, 22:50 last edited by
    #14

    @jon-nyc said in Torn ACL:

    You guys are cruel.

    I don't think so.

    Education is extremely important.

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      Copper
      wrote on 24 Jan 2022, 23:35 last edited by
      #15

      This will cheer him up

      This date in 1984

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      • H Horace
        24 Jan 2022, 16:49

        My knees have always been garbage. I took a slip 10 days ago and the one knee that never got destroyed, got destroyed. So now my right knee quad tendon was completely severed a couple years ago, and now my left knee ACL has been torn. Knees suck.

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        Axtremus
        wrote on 25 Jan 2022, 07:23 last edited by
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        @horace , sorry about your ACL. Get well soon.

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          Horace
          wrote on 25 Jan 2022, 22:16 last edited by
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          Thanks Ax and all.

          Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops. It consistently amazes me the degree to which one needs to direct one's own care in the American health system. So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week. It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • H Horace
            25 Jan 2022, 22:16

            Thanks Ax and all.

            Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops. It consistently amazes me the degree to which one needs to direct one's own care in the American health system. So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week. It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

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            George K
            wrote on 25 Jan 2022, 22:21 last edited by
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            @horace said in Torn ACL:

            Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops..... So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week.

            I'm surprised that the ortho's office didn't advise you to bring any imaging that you'd already had.

            It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

            It would be even more wonderful if the ortho's office could access the MRI images remotely without you having to chase down the CD (what, wait...CD?) to hand to him.

            This kind of BS is one of the reasons why Mrs. George and I have consolidated all of our care to one facility, where everything would be immediately available to every doc.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • G George K
              25 Jan 2022, 22:21

              @horace said in Torn ACL:

              Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops..... So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week.

              I'm surprised that the ortho's office didn't advise you to bring any imaging that you'd already had.

              It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

              It would be even more wonderful if the ortho's office could access the MRI images remotely without you having to chase down the CD (what, wait...CD?) to hand to him.

              This kind of BS is one of the reasons why Mrs. George and I have consolidated all of our care to one facility, where everything would be immediately available to every doc.

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              Horace
              wrote on 25 Jan 2022, 22:32 last edited by Horace
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              @george-k said in Torn ACL:

              @horace said in Torn ACL:

              Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops..... So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week.

              I'm surprised that the ortho's office didn't advise you to bring any imaging that you'd already had.

              when I was referred to the ortho by my primary physician, who diagnosed the ACL based on the images, I figured the images were available. But apparently unless the ortho and the primary are in the same building or network or what have you, the ortho could not care less what the primary physician might think. But it's mostly a matter of ridiculous process. Injured people should not be conscripted as couriers, but here we are.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • C Copper
                24 Jan 2022, 23:35

                This will cheer him up

                This date in 1984

                22ad3ceb-a5fe-4020-9481-f8af6a75486e-image.png

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                Mik
                wrote on 25 Jan 2022, 23:15 last edited by
                #20

                @copper said in Torn ACL:

                This will cheer him up

                This date in 1984

                22ad3ceb-a5fe-4020-9481-f8af6a75486e-image.png

                I used one.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  kluurs
                  wrote on 25 Jan 2022, 23:37 last edited by
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                  That's aggravating - on every level. It's easy enough to slip this time of year and torque things in ways that weren't meant to be. A friend who works out 3 hours every day managed to rip quad tendons from both knees while going down some steps. Hopefully, your next visit with the doc is a bit more productive. It is terrible that they didn't specify requirements before the visit.

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                  • H Horace
                    25 Jan 2022, 22:16

                    Thanks Ax and all.

                    Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops. It consistently amazes me the degree to which one needs to direct one's own care in the American health system. So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week. It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 25 Jan 2022, 23:39 last edited by
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                    @horace said in Torn ACL:

                    Thanks Ax and all.

                    Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops. It consistently amazes me the degree to which one needs to direct one's own care in the American health system. So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week. It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

                    HIPAA and no common platform.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • M Mik
                      24 Jan 2022, 17:19

                      Yikes! And add an OUCH! to that.

                      Hope it's as good a news as possible. You've been missed here.

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                      brenda
                      wrote on 26 Jan 2022, 11:25 last edited by
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                      @mik said in Torn ACL:

                      Yikes! And add an OUCH! to that.

                      Hope it's as good a news as possible. You've been missed here.

                      +1

                      That's awful, Horace. I'm so sorry to hear this. I hope your doc has a good plan for you. You're way too young to have such a problem hamper your life.

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                      • H Horace
                        25 Jan 2022, 22:16

                        Thanks Ax and all.

                        Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops. It consistently amazes me the degree to which one needs to direct one's own care in the American health system. So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week. It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

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                        brenda
                        wrote on 26 Jan 2022, 11:32 last edited by
                        #24

                        @horace said in Torn ACL:

                        Thanks Ax and all.

                        Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops. It consistently amazes me the degree to which one needs to direct one's own care in the American health system. So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week. It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

                        For crying out loud. A phone call to request a transfer of a file should be possible in today's world. The patient is right there to authorize permission, and the technology can't make it possible to send it? I would be so furious. It's ridiculous.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 26 Jan 2022, 12:04 last edited by
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                          I’ve personally retrieved image CDs here and Fedexed them to Duke.

                          At least Colombia and Duke now can share my records on epic. 6 years ago they couldn’t.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            Mik
                            wrote on 26 Jan 2022, 13:50 last edited by
                            #26

                            True, Jon, but your case is pretty unusual.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • B brenda
                              26 Jan 2022, 11:32

                              @horace said in Torn ACL:

                              Thanks Ax and all.

                              Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops. It consistently amazes me the degree to which one needs to direct one's own care in the American health system. So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week. It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

                              For crying out loud. A phone call to request a transfer of a file should be possible in today's world. The patient is right there to authorize permission, and the technology can't make it possible to send it? I would be so furious. It's ridiculous.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 26 Jan 2022, 13:51 last edited by
                              #27

                              @brenda said in Torn ACL:

                              @horace said in Torn ACL:

                              Thanks Ax and all.

                              Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops. It consistently amazes me the degree to which one needs to direct one's own care in the American health system. So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week. It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

                              For crying out loud. A phone call to request a transfer of a file should be possible in today's world. The patient is right there to authorize permission, and the technology can't make it possible to send it? I would be so furious. It's ridiculous.

                              Especially in the Bay area.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • B brenda
                                26 Jan 2022, 11:32

                                @horace said in Torn ACL:

                                Thanks Ax and all.

                                Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops. It consistently amazes me the degree to which one needs to direct one's own care in the American health system. So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week. It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

                                For crying out loud. A phone call to request a transfer of a file should be possible in today's world. The patient is right there to authorize permission, and the technology can't make it possible to send it? I would be so furious. It's ridiculous.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 26 Jan 2022, 18:01 last edited by
                                #28

                                @brenda said in Torn ACL:

                                @horace said in Torn ACL:

                                Thanks Ax and all.

                                Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops. It consistently amazes me the degree to which one needs to direct one's own care in the American health system. So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week. It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

                                For crying out loud. A phone call to request a transfer of a file should be possible in today's world. The patient is right there to authorize permission, and the technology can't make it possible to send it? I would be so furious. It's ridiculous.

                                [Ax] Well...If you don't like the technology...[/Ax]

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 26 Jan 2022, 18:34 last edited by
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                                  Yeah and it helps to have two large academic centers using the same EMR.

                                  If I go to Westchester radiology, the most convenient place, I still have to FedEx a cd.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • B brenda
                                    26 Jan 2022, 11:32

                                    @horace said in Torn ACL:

                                    Thanks Ax and all.

                                    Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops. It consistently amazes me the degree to which one needs to direct one's own care in the American health system. So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week. It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

                                    For crying out loud. A phone call to request a transfer of a file should be possible in today's world. The patient is right there to authorize permission, and the technology can't make it possible to send it? I would be so furious. It's ridiculous.

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 26 Jan 2022, 20:33 last edited by
                                    #30

                                    @brenda said in Torn ACL:

                                    @horace said in Torn ACL:

                                    Thanks Ax and all.

                                    Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops. It consistently amazes me the degree to which one needs to direct one's own care in the American health system. So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week. It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

                                    For crying out loud. A phone call to request a transfer of a file should be possible in today's world. The patient is right there to authorize permission, and the technology can't make it possible to send it? I would be so furious. It's ridiculous.

                                    Thank you Brenda.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on 6 Feb 2022, 02:18 last edited by Horace 2 Jun 2022, 02:22
                                      #31

                                      On the visit to the ortho and then the visit to the MRI center I apparently picked up a virus and I have never been floored by a virus but I was by this one. Standing up, well, the combination of needing to do it with a torn ACL, and also needing to do it because I have to walk down the stairs to get from my bedroom to the one bathroom in the house with enough room for me to sit down on the commode with an extended leg, made me slightly familiar with what it is to be incapacitated. This particular virus has intestinal symptoms, you see. My wife has been a huge help but coincidentally she was in China at the time. She enlisted the help of friends and they cooked and cleaned for me. And most importantly took the dogs out for me. People have been so kind, it's been a revelation for me. I lost my glasses at some point and called my optometrist and the receptionist delivered new glasses to my door. A friend from work volunteered to deliver to me a home covid test, and I accepted. We hadn't seen each other in years, due to covid. I appreciated it. I think my fevered mind was able to run the test adequately and I think it was negative.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 6 Feb 2022, 02:52 last edited by
                                        #32

                                        You are clearly very loved. This is a good thing.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • M Mik
                                          6 Feb 2022, 02:52

                                          You are clearly very loved. This is a good thing.

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on 6 Feb 2022, 02:58 last edited by Horace 2 Jun 2022, 03:06
                                          #33

                                          @mik said in Torn ACL:

                                          You are clearly very loved. This is a good thing.

                                          Well I think everybody would be, when they are in need. People can sense when you are in need, and then they really want to help.

                                          Which is not to minimize the individuals who do help, and who try harder than others to help.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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