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  • HoraceH Horace

    @jon-nyc said in Torn ACL:

    How’s your mobility in the mean time? Can you walk at all?

    one does not walk per se. One attempts to stabilize the injured leg by locking the knee joint (maybe evolution helped with this) and then you pray you don't fall.

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    @horace said in Torn ACL:

    @jon-nyc said in Torn ACL:

    How’s your mobility in the mean time? Can you walk at all?

    one does not walk per se. One attempts to stabilize the injured leg by locking the knee joint (maybe evolution helped with this) and then you pray you don't fall.

    Ugh. I hope you get great care and heal quickly.

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    • CopperC Online
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      Copper
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      I recommend whiskey, and maybe some vitamins.

      I'm not a doctor.

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      • MikM Offline
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        #12

        But really, whisky.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
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          #13

          You guys are cruel.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            You guys are cruel.

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            @jon-nyc said in Torn ACL:

            You guys are cruel.

            I don't think so.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • CopperC Online
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              Copper
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              #15

              This will cheer him up

              This date in 1984

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              • HoraceH Horace

                My knees have always been garbage. I took a slip 10 days ago and the one knee that never got destroyed, got destroyed. So now my right knee quad tendon was completely severed a couple years ago, and now my left knee ACL has been torn. Knees suck.

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                @horace , sorry about your ACL. Get well soon.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #17

                  Thanks Ax and all.

                  Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops. It consistently amazes me the degree to which one needs to direct one's own care in the American health system. So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week. It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    Thanks Ax and all.

                    Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops. It consistently amazes me the degree to which one needs to direct one's own care in the American health system. So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week. It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

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                    @horace said in Torn ACL:

                    Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops..... So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week.

                    I'm surprised that the ortho's office didn't advise you to bring any imaging that you'd already had.

                    It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

                    It would be even more wonderful if the ortho's office could access the MRI images remotely without you having to chase down the CD (what, wait...CD?) to hand to him.

                    This kind of BS is one of the reasons why Mrs. George and I have consolidated all of our care to one facility, where everything would be immediately available to every doc.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      @horace said in Torn ACL:

                      Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops..... So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week.

                      I'm surprised that the ortho's office didn't advise you to bring any imaging that you'd already had.

                      It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

                      It would be even more wonderful if the ortho's office could access the MRI images remotely without you having to chase down the CD (what, wait...CD?) to hand to him.

                      This kind of BS is one of the reasons why Mrs. George and I have consolidated all of our care to one facility, where everything would be immediately available to every doc.

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                      #19

                      @george-k said in Torn ACL:

                      @horace said in Torn ACL:

                      Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops..... So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week.

                      I'm surprised that the ortho's office didn't advise you to bring any imaging that you'd already had.

                      when I was referred to the ortho by my primary physician, who diagnosed the ACL based on the images, I figured the images were available. But apparently unless the ortho and the primary are in the same building or network or what have you, the ortho could not care less what the primary physician might think. But it's mostly a matter of ridiculous process. Injured people should not be conscripted as couriers, but here we are.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • CopperC Copper

                        This will cheer him up

                        This date in 1984

                        22ad3ceb-a5fe-4020-9481-f8af6a75486e-image.png

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                        Mik
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                        #20

                        @copper said in Torn ACL:

                        This will cheer him up

                        This date in 1984

                        22ad3ceb-a5fe-4020-9481-f8af6a75486e-image.png

                        I used one.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          That's aggravating - on every level. It's easy enough to slip this time of year and torque things in ways that weren't meant to be. A friend who works out 3 hours every day managed to rip quad tendons from both knees while going down some steps. Hopefully, your next visit with the doc is a bit more productive. It is terrible that they didn't specify requirements before the visit.

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            Thanks Ax and all.

                            Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops. It consistently amazes me the degree to which one needs to direct one's own care in the American health system. So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week. It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

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                            @horace said in Torn ACL:

                            Thanks Ax and all.

                            Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops. It consistently amazes me the degree to which one needs to direct one's own care in the American health system. So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week. It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

                            HIPAA and no common platform.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • MikM Mik

                              Yikes! And add an OUCH! to that.

                              Hope it's as good a news as possible. You've been missed here.

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                              @mik said in Torn ACL:

                              Yikes! And add an OUCH! to that.

                              Hope it's as good a news as possible. You've been missed here.

                              +1

                              That's awful, Horace. I'm so sorry to hear this. I hope your doc has a good plan for you. You're way too young to have such a problem hamper your life.

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                              • HoraceH Horace

                                Thanks Ax and all.

                                Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops. It consistently amazes me the degree to which one needs to direct one's own care in the American health system. So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week. It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

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                                brenda
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                                @horace said in Torn ACL:

                                Thanks Ax and all.

                                Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops. It consistently amazes me the degree to which one needs to direct one's own care in the American health system. So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week. It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

                                For crying out loud. A phone call to request a transfer of a file should be possible in today's world. The patient is right there to authorize permission, and the technology can't make it possible to send it? I would be so furious. It's ridiculous.

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                                • jon-nycJ Online
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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #25

                                  I’ve personally retrieved image CDs here and Fedexed them to Duke.

                                  At least Colombia and Duke now can share my records on epic. 6 years ago they couldn’t.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    True, Jon, but your case is pretty unusual.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • brendaB brenda

                                      @horace said in Torn ACL:

                                      Thanks Ax and all.

                                      Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops. It consistently amazes me the degree to which one needs to direct one's own care in the American health system. So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week. It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

                                      For crying out loud. A phone call to request a transfer of a file should be possible in today's world. The patient is right there to authorize permission, and the technology can't make it possible to send it? I would be so furious. It's ridiculous.

                                      MikM Offline
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                                      Mik
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                                      @brenda said in Torn ACL:

                                      @horace said in Torn ACL:

                                      Thanks Ax and all.

                                      Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops. It consistently amazes me the degree to which one needs to direct one's own care in the American health system. So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week. It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

                                      For crying out loud. A phone call to request a transfer of a file should be possible in today's world. The patient is right there to authorize permission, and the technology can't make it possible to send it? I would be so furious. It's ridiculous.

                                      Especially in the Bay area.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • brendaB brenda

                                        @horace said in Torn ACL:

                                        Thanks Ax and all.

                                        Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops. It consistently amazes me the degree to which one needs to direct one's own care in the American health system. So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week. It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

                                        For crying out loud. A phone call to request a transfer of a file should be possible in today's world. The patient is right there to authorize permission, and the technology can't make it possible to send it? I would be so furious. It's ridiculous.

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                                        #28

                                        @brenda said in Torn ACL:

                                        @horace said in Torn ACL:

                                        Thanks Ax and all.

                                        Today I had my ortho appointment. Unfortunately there was a prerequisite nobody informed me of, which is that I needed the MRI image disk in hand in order to be seen. Oops. It consistently amazes me the degree to which one needs to direct one's own care in the American health system. So I went to the MRI center to get my copy of my record, so I can hand deliver it to the ortho on the next scheduled appointment, in about a week. It would be wonderful if this stuff was automated, but due to some unholy combination of lawyers, money, and people's abject terror of dying, the health care system in this country has approximately 50 year old technology.

                                        For crying out loud. A phone call to request a transfer of a file should be possible in today's world. The patient is right there to authorize permission, and the technology can't make it possible to send it? I would be so furious. It's ridiculous.

                                        [Ax] Well...If you don't like the technology...[/Ax]

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #29

                                          Yeah and it helps to have two large academic centers using the same EMR.

                                          If I go to Westchester radiology, the most convenient place, I still have to FedEx a cd.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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