US has a shitload of cases
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I wouldn't say that Corona virus deaths are on Trump's hands.
It's akin to a general leading an army to battle. If the general gives a good faith best-effort of using his resources well - even if he botches it, you don't typically say the general has blood on his hands.
Trump doesn't want people to die, but he's just bad at this. He's bad at calculating risks and navigating scientific decisions.
wrote on 18 May 2020, 20:49 last edited by@xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:
I wouldn't say that Corona virus deaths are on Trump's hands.
It's akin to a general leading an army to battle. If the general gives a good faith best-effort of using his resources well - even if he botches it, you don't typically say the general has blood on his hands.
Trump doesn't want people to die, but he's just bad at this. He's bad at calculating risks and navigating scientific decisions.
Those are your opinions. They are not facts. That's the problem with both of you mental midgets - you create a scenario in your mind, then present your opinions as if they were facts. You are incapable of examining things without first squeezing it through your "I hate Trump" filter. You and 89th both.
So here's the truth, minus your crazy mental problem: first, science doesn't make decisions. Science studies things, and report the findings. Second, most all of the decisions Trump has made have been a direct result of taking the advice of the scientific and medical experts on the panel he set up for that very purpose. So to sit there and claim Trump is "bad at calculating risks and navigating scientific decisions" is just outright stupid.
The truth is, Trump acted quickly, and every decision he has made has been the direct result of the advice he was given by the team of experts he hired. When he was shutting down travel from China, the democrats and the news media were busy telling us not to worry, it wasn't going to be a problem, get out in a crowd, go to Chinatown, Trump is a fool and a xenophobe and there's nothing to worry about. But neither you nor 89th has said a single word condemning that. You skip right over that because it would damage your narrative.
That's why both of you piss me off when it comes to this issue. Neither of you are intellectually honest, and it looking like you're simply not capable of it.
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@xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:
I wouldn't say that Corona virus deaths are on Trump's hands.
It's akin to a general leading an army to battle. If the general gives a good faith best-effort of using his resources well - even if he botches it, you don't typically say the general has blood on his hands.
Trump doesn't want people to die, but he's just bad at this. He's bad at calculating risks and navigating scientific decisions.
Those are your opinions. They are not facts. That's the problem with both of you mental midgets - you create a scenario in your mind, then present your opinions as if they were facts. You are incapable of examining things without first squeezing it through your "I hate Trump" filter. You and 89th both.
So here's the truth, minus your crazy mental problem: first, science doesn't make decisions. Science studies things, and report the findings. Second, most all of the decisions Trump has made have been a direct result of taking the advice of the scientific and medical experts on the panel he set up for that very purpose. So to sit there and claim Trump is "bad at calculating risks and navigating scientific decisions" is just outright stupid.
The truth is, Trump acted quickly, and every decision he has made has been the direct result of the advice he was given by the team of experts he hired. When he was shutting down travel from China, the democrats and the news media were busy telling us not to worry, it wasn't going to be a problem, get out in a crowd, go to Chinatown, Trump is a fool and a xenophobe and there's nothing to worry about. But neither you nor 89th has said a single word condemning that. You skip right over that because it would damage your narrative.
That's why both of you piss me off when it comes to this issue. Neither of you are intellectually honest, and it looking like you're simply not capable of it.
wrote on 18 May 2020, 20:54 last edited by@Larry You're wrong. "I hate Trump" is not my filter.
My filter that he's a very shallow thinker. He has nice, clean high-level messages - but he's not up to the task of the deliberative work of governing. This results in him saying things that - given the level of his office - are stupid.
He'd be perfectly endearing as an angry political-junkie uncle over for dinner.
I also happen to think he's an incredibly funny and charismatic guy
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@Larry You're wrong. "I hate Trump" is not my filter.
My filter that he's a very shallow thinker. He has nice, clean high-level messages - but he's not up to the task of the deliberative work of governing. This results in him saying things that - given the level of his office - are stupid.
He'd be perfectly endearing as an angry political-junkie uncle over for dinner.
I also happen to think he's an incredibly funny and charismatic guy
wrote on 18 May 2020, 21:01 last edited by@xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:
@Larry You're wrong. "I hate Trump" is not my filter.
My filter that he's a very shallow thinker. He has nice, clean high-level messages - but he's not up to the task of the deliberative work of governing. This results in him saying things that - given the level of his office - are stupid.
He'd be perfectly endearing as an angry political-junkie uncle over for dinner.
I also happen to think he's an incredibly funny and charismatic guy
Your filter is incorrect. The shallow thinker not up to the task of governing was Obama. The reason you think it's Trump and never applied that to Obama, the one you've actually described, is because you are easily swayed by the media, and how the person speaks. So here's the truth... Trump is the single most capable leader to hold the office of President in your lifetime. Stop focusing on what gets said and pay attention to what gets accomplished.
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@xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:
@Larry You're wrong. "I hate Trump" is not my filter.
My filter that he's a very shallow thinker. He has nice, clean high-level messages - but he's not up to the task of the deliberative work of governing. This results in him saying things that - given the level of his office - are stupid.
He'd be perfectly endearing as an angry political-junkie uncle over for dinner.
I also happen to think he's an incredibly funny and charismatic guy
Your filter is incorrect. The shallow thinker not up to the task of governing was Obama. The reason you think it's Trump and never applied that to Obama, the one you've actually described, is because you are easily swayed by the media, and how the person speaks. So here's the truth... Trump is the single most capable leader to hold the office of President in your lifetime. Stop focusing on what gets said and pay attention to what gets accomplished.
wrote on 18 May 2020, 21:05 last edited by xenon@Larry I'm fine with my filter. And as for Obama - I probably think about him 1% as often as you do. So, that doesn't mean much to me.
And the most interesting Trump tidbits for me have been his own words - which have been an order of magnitude more frequent in a press setting the last couple of months. I typically don't link to or comment on opinion about Trump.
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@Larry I'm fine with my filter. And as for Obama - I probably think about him 1% as often as you do. So, that doesn't mean much to me.
And the most interesting Trump tidbits for me have been his own words - which have been an order of magnitude more frequent in a press setting the last couple of months. I typically don't link to or comment on opinion about Trump.
wrote on 18 May 2020, 21:06 last edited by@xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:
@Larry I'm fine with my filter. And as for Obama - I probably think about him 1% as often as you do. So, that doesn't mean much to me.
Of course you're fine with it. You've never been much interested in intellectual honesty.
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@xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:
@Larry I'm fine with my filter. And as for Obama - I probably think about him 1% as often as you do. So, that doesn't mean much to me.
Of course you're fine with it. You've never been much interested in intellectual honesty.
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wrote on 18 May 2020, 21:09 last edited by
@xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:
@Larry We can't all be as open minded as you.
You'd think the least you could do would be to try, though...
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@Jolly said in US has a shitload of cases:
@xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:
@Copper said in US has a shitload of cases:
@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
sigh.
No kidding
He took that quote completely out of context
Why?
Was he trying to trick us into thinking Mr. Trump thinks tests cause covid? Nobody is that stupid, nobody.
I assume he was just joking.
Haha
No that’s stupid. Tests are not overrated. We’re nowhere near the top of the list on per capita testing. And our cases count is not inflated because of too much testing.
Testing is not the problem - as Trump seems to believe.
The amount of stupid people are letting slide with this guy is astounding.
Some tests are overrated. We're finding out the Abbott test is wrong maybe as much as 40% of the time.
That’s a reasonable argument, but not the one Trump was making in the “overrated” remarks
We have tests that, two months ago, didn’t even exist. Our great companies came up with things — Abbott Laboratories and so many others. They came up with things that — Roche — they came up with things that nobody even believes. So we have the best testing in the world..
wrote on 18 May 2020, 21:12 last edited by Jolly@xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:
@Jolly said in US has a shitload of cases:
@xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:
@Copper said in US has a shitload of cases:
@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
sigh.
No kidding
He took that quote completely out of context
Why?
Was he trying to trick us into thinking Mr. Trump thinks tests cause covid? Nobody is that stupid, nobody.
I assume he was just joking.
Haha
No that’s stupid. Tests are not overrated. We’re nowhere near the top of the list on per capita testing. And our cases count is not inflated because of too much testing.
Testing is not the problem - as Trump seems to believe.
The amount of stupid people are letting slide with this guy is astounding.
Some tests are overrated. We're finding out the Abbott test is wrong maybe as much as 40% of the time.
That’s a reasonable argument, but not the one Trump was making in the “overrated” remarks
We have tests that, two months ago, didn’t even exist. Our great companies came up with things — Abbott Laboratories and so many others. They came up with things that — Roche — they came up with things that nobody even believes. So we have the best testing in the world..
You'd complain if somebody hanged you with a new rope.
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@xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:
@Jolly said in US has a shitload of cases:
@xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:
@Copper said in US has a shitload of cases:
@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
sigh.
No kidding
He took that quote completely out of context
Why?
Was he trying to trick us into thinking Mr. Trump thinks tests cause covid? Nobody is that stupid, nobody.
I assume he was just joking.
Haha
No that’s stupid. Tests are not overrated. We’re nowhere near the top of the list on per capita testing. And our cases count is not inflated because of too much testing.
Testing is not the problem - as Trump seems to believe.
The amount of stupid people are letting slide with this guy is astounding.
Some tests are overrated. We're finding out the Abbott test is wrong maybe as much as 40% of the time.
That’s a reasonable argument, but not the one Trump was making in the “overrated” remarks
We have tests that, two months ago, didn’t even exist. Our great companies came up with things — Abbott Laboratories and so many others. They came up with things that — Roche — they came up with things that nobody even believes. So we have the best testing in the world..
You'd complain if somebody hanged you with a new rope.
wrote on 18 May 2020, 21:12 last edited by xenon. .
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@xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:
@Larry You're wrong. "I hate Trump" is not my filter.
My filter that he's a very shallow thinker. He has nice, clean high-level messages - but he's not up to the task of the deliberative work of governing. This results in him saying things that - given the level of his office - are stupid.
He'd be perfectly endearing as an angry political-junkie uncle over for dinner.
I also happen to think he's an incredibly funny and charismatic guy
Your filter is incorrect. The shallow thinker not up to the task of governing was Obama. The reason you think it's Trump and never applied that to Obama, the one you've actually described, is because you are easily swayed by the media, and how the person speaks. So here's the truth... Trump is the single most capable leader to hold the office of President in your lifetime. Stop focusing on what gets said and pay attention to what gets accomplished.
wrote on 18 May 2020, 21:28 last edited by@Larry said in US has a shitload of cases:
Trump is the single most capable leader to hold the office of President in your lifetime.
Larry’s TDS is on full display
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wrote on 18 May 2020, 21:35 last edited by
Well, one thing is for sure: Trump is the President of our lifetimes whose character is most similar to Larry's
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@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
1,154,621, up 2.5%. Deaths 67,451 up 2.2%.
1,177,784 up 2.0%. Deaths 68,442 up 1.5%.
1,201,337 up 2.0%. Deaths 70,847 up 3.5%
1252,911 up 2.1%. Deaths 75,447 up 3.2%
1,281,246 up 2.3% Deaths 76,901 up 1.9%
1,305,544 up 1.9%. Deaths 78,618 up 2.2%
1,345,307 up up 1.5%. Deaths 80,239 up 1%
1,366,350 up 1.6%. Deaths 82,105 up 2.3%
1,413,012 up 1.7%. Deaths 85,581 up 2.1%
1,439,434 up 1.9%. Deaths 87,204 up 1.9%.
1,464,057 up up 1.7%. Deaths 88,473 up 1.5%1,486,375 up 22,318 or 1.5%. Deaths 89,549 up 1076 or 1.2%.
wrote on 18 May 2020, 22:36 last edited by@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
1,154,621, up 2.5%. Deaths 67,451 up 2.2%.
1,177,784 up 2.0%. Deaths 68,442 up 1.5%.
1,201,337 up 2.0%. Deaths 70,847 up 3.5%
1252,911 up 2.1%. Deaths 75,447 up 3.2%
1,281,246 up 2.3% Deaths 76,901 up 1.9%
1,305,544 up 1.9%. Deaths 78,618 up 2.2%
1,345,307 up up 1.5%. Deaths 80,239 up 1%
1,366,350 up 1.6%. Deaths 82,105 up 2.3%
1,413,012 up 1.7%. Deaths 85,581 up 2.1%
1,439,434 up 1.9%. Deaths 87,204 up 1.9%.
1,464,057 up up 1.7%. Deaths 88,473 up 1.5%
1,486,375 up 22,318 or 1.5%. Deaths 89,549 up 1076 or 1.2%.1,504,386 up 18,011 or 1.2%. Deaths 90,194 up 1721 or 645 or 0.72%
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wrote on 18 May 2020, 23:39 last edited by
Excellent! 6 day trend. (I’m not being sarcastic)
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Well, one thing is for sure: Trump is the President of our lifetimes whose character is most similar to Larry's
wrote on 18 May 2020, 23:54 last edited by@Klaus said in US has a shitload of cases:
Well, one thing is for sure: Trump is the President of our lifetimes whose character is most similar to Larry's
Yes. If I could only be as perfect and flawless as a few here are.....
I wonder... do you think Trump might shove his foot up the ass of some self righteous prick who thought he has the right to question his character to his face? Because.. you see, I would do something like that. And after I pulled my foot out of their ass I might even pick up a brick and beat them with it. So it's quite possible my character is lower than Trump's.
Or it might be that both Trumps character and mine as well are better than that of a self righteous prick. We may never know...
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wrote on 19 May 2020, 00:21 last edited by
Was there a competition I missed entitled 'How to make a thread about deaths from Covid even more depressing'?
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wrote on 19 May 2020, 01:22 last edited by
LLOL (literally laughed out loud) @Doctor-Phibes
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Was there a competition I missed entitled 'How to make a thread about deaths from Covid even more depressing'?
wrote on 19 May 2020, 03:27 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in US has a shitload of cases:
Was there a competition I missed entitled 'How to make a thread about deaths from Covid even more depressing'?
Not really.
I don't share the fascination with death rates after it passes the "bad" point.
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@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
1,154,621, up 2.5%. Deaths 67,451 up 2.2%.
1,177,784 up 2.0%. Deaths 68,442 up 1.5%.
1,201,337 up 2.0%. Deaths 70,847 up 3.5%
1252,911 up 2.1%. Deaths 75,447 up 3.2%
1,281,246 up 2.3% Deaths 76,901 up 1.9%
1,305,544 up 1.9%. Deaths 78,618 up 2.2%
1,345,307 up up 1.5%. Deaths 80,239 up 1%
1,366,350 up 1.6%. Deaths 82,105 up 2.3%
1,413,012 up 1.7%. Deaths 85,581 up 2.1%
1,439,434 up 1.9%. Deaths 87,204 up 1.9%.
1,464,057 up up 1.7%. Deaths 88,473 up 1.5%
1,486,375 up 22,318 or 1.5%. Deaths 89,549 up 1076 or 1.2%.1,504,386 up 18,011 or 1.2%. Deaths 90,194 up 1721 or 645 or 0.72%
wrote on 19 May 2020, 22:12 last edited by@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
1,177,784 up 2.0%. Deaths 68,442 up 1.5%.
1,201,337 up 2.0%. Deaths 70,847 up 3.5%
1252,911 up 2.1%. Deaths 75,447 up 3.2%
1,281,246 up 2.3% Deaths 76,901 up 1.9%
1,305,544 up 1.9%. Deaths 78,618 up 2.2%
1,345,307 up up 1.5%. Deaths 80,239 up 1%
1,366,350 up 1.6%. Deaths 82,105 up 2.3%
1,413,012 up 1.7%. Deaths 85,581 up 2.1%
1,439,434 up 1.9%. Deaths 87,204 up 1.9%.
1,464,057 up up 1.7%. Deaths 88,473 up 1.5%
1,486,375 up 22,318 or 1.5%. Deaths 89,549 up 1076 or 1.2%.
1,504,386 up 18,011 or 1.2%. Deaths 90,194 up 645 or 0.72%1,524,107 up 19,721 or 1.3%. Deaths 91,661 up 1467 or 1.6%
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@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
1,177,784 up 2.0%. Deaths 68,442 up 1.5%.
1,201,337 up 2.0%. Deaths 70,847 up 3.5%
1252,911 up 2.1%. Deaths 75,447 up 3.2%
1,281,246 up 2.3% Deaths 76,901 up 1.9%
1,305,544 up 1.9%. Deaths 78,618 up 2.2%
1,345,307 up up 1.5%. Deaths 80,239 up 1%
1,366,350 up 1.6%. Deaths 82,105 up 2.3%
1,413,012 up 1.7%. Deaths 85,581 up 2.1%
1,439,434 up 1.9%. Deaths 87,204 up 1.9%.
1,464,057 up up 1.7%. Deaths 88,473 up 1.5%
1,486,375 up 22,318 or 1.5%. Deaths 89,549 up 1076 or 1.2%.
1,504,386 up 18,011 or 1.2%. Deaths 90,194 up 645 or 0.72%1,524,107 up 19,721 or 1.3%. Deaths 91,661 up 1467 or 1.6%
wrote on 20 May 2020, 22:25 last edited by@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
1,201,337 up 2.0%. Deaths 70,847 up 3.5%
1252,911 up 2.1%. Deaths 75,447 up 3.2%
1,281,246 up 2.3% Deaths 76,901 up 1.9%
1,305,544 up 1.9%. Deaths 78,618 up 2.2%
1,345,307 up up 1.5%. Deaths 80,239 up 1%
1,366,350 up 1.6%. Deaths 82,105 up 2.3%
1,413,012 up 1.7%. Deaths 85,581 up 2.1%
1,439,434 up 1.9%. Deaths 87,204 up 1.9%.
1,464,057 up up 1.7%. Deaths 88,473 up 1.5%
1,486,375 up 22,318 or 1.5%. Deaths 89,549 up 1076 or 1.2%.
1,504,386 up 18,011 or 1.2%. Deaths 90,194 up 645 or 0.72
1,524,107 up 19,721 or 1.3%. Deaths 91,661 up 1467 or 1.6%1,548,646 up 24,539 or 1.6%. Deaths 93,163 up 1502 or 1.6%.
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@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
1,201,337 up 2.0%. Deaths 70,847 up 3.5%
1252,911 up 2.1%. Deaths 75,447 up 3.2%
1,281,246 up 2.3% Deaths 76,901 up 1.9%
1,305,544 up 1.9%. Deaths 78,618 up 2.2%
1,345,307 up up 1.5%. Deaths 80,239 up 1%
1,366,350 up 1.6%. Deaths 82,105 up 2.3%
1,413,012 up 1.7%. Deaths 85,581 up 2.1%
1,439,434 up 1.9%. Deaths 87,204 up 1.9%.
1,464,057 up up 1.7%. Deaths 88,473 up 1.5%
1,486,375 up 22,318 or 1.5%. Deaths 89,549 up 1076 or 1.2%.
1,504,386 up 18,011 or 1.2%. Deaths 90,194 up 645 or 0.72
1,524,107 up 19,721 or 1.3%. Deaths 91,661 up 1467 or 1.6%1,548,646 up 24,539 or 1.6%. Deaths 93,163 up 1502 or 1.6%.
wrote on 21 May 2020, 22:34 last edited by@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
1252,911 up 2.1%. Deaths 75,447 up 3.2%
1,281,246 up 2.3% Deaths 76,901 up 1.9%
1,305,544 up 1.9%. Deaths 78,618 up 2.2%
1,345,307 up up 1.5%. Deaths 80,239 up 1%
1,366,350 up 1.6%. Deaths 82,105 up 2.3%
1,413,012 up 1.7%. Deaths 85,581 up 2.1%
1,439,434 up 1.9%. Deaths 87,204 up 1.9%.
1,464,057 up up 1.7%. Deaths 88,473 up 1.5%
1,486,375 up 22,318 or 1.5%. Deaths 89,549 up 1076 or 1.2%.
1,504,386 up 18,011 or 1.2%. Deaths 90,194 up 645 or 0.72
1,524,107 up 19,721 or 1.3%. Deaths 91,661 up 1467 or 1.6%
1,548,646 up 24,539 or 1.6%. Deaths 93,163 up 1502 or 1.6%.1,573,742 up 25,096 or 1.6%. Deaths 94,566 up 1403 or 1.5%.