US has a shitload of cases
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@Mik said in US has a shitload of cases:
@Jolly said in US has a shitload of cases:
@xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:
@Copper said in US has a shitload of cases:
@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
sigh.
No kidding
He took that quote completely out of context
Why?
Was he trying to trick us into thinking Mr. Trump thinks tests cause covid? Nobody is that stupid, nobody.
I assume he was just joking.
Haha
No that’s stupid. Tests are not overrated. We’re nowhere near the top of the list on per capita testing. And our cases count is not inflated because of too much testing.
Testing is not the problem - as Trump seems to believe.
The amount of stupid people are letting slide with this guy is astounding.
Some tests are overrated. We're finding out the Abbott test is wrong maybe as much as 40% of the time.
Yep. This is the inherent risk of hurrying diagnostics and medicines. Which is not to say we should not have done it, but essentially you are testing the test in real time.
At least it's false negatives.
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@Jolly said in US has a shitload of cases:
Probably could have lowered the death rate, if we had declared martial law and shot anybody venturing out into the streets.
Then Trump would be a hero in your eyes?
You're not as bad as @Larry, but why jump to the extreme? Sadly the bar is so low, all I would've preferred from our President is to have someone who didn't dismiss the seriousness of it as late as mid March.
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@Jolly said in US has a shitload of cases:
@xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:
@Copper said in US has a shitload of cases:
@jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:
sigh.
No kidding
He took that quote completely out of context
Why?
Was he trying to trick us into thinking Mr. Trump thinks tests cause covid? Nobody is that stupid, nobody.
I assume he was just joking.
Haha
No that’s stupid. Tests are not overrated. We’re nowhere near the top of the list on per capita testing. And our cases count is not inflated because of too much testing.
Testing is not the problem - as Trump seems to believe.
The amount of stupid people are letting slide with this guy is astounding.
Some tests are overrated. We're finding out the Abbott test is wrong maybe as much as 40% of the time.
That’s a reasonable argument, but not the one Trump was making in the “overrated” remarks
We have tests that, two months ago, didn’t even exist. Our great companies came up with things — Abbott Laboratories and so many others. They came up with things that — Roche — they came up with things that nobody even believes. So we have the best testing in the world..
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@Larry I have not deviated from discussing real facts. They just seem to trigger your TDS and you reply with "uh yeah but...DEMOCRATS! You have TDS! You have jaundice!"
Let's start with what I originally said:
Do you agree the death toll could have been smaller had the President put in place measures 2+ weeks sooner than they were?Possible Answers:
- Yes, I like math
- No, maths is t3h sux0rs
- 1+1 = But, democrats!
- I'm calling the Jaundice TDS police
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@89th said in US has a shitload of cases:
@Larry I have not deviated from discussing real facts. They just seem to trigger your TDS and you reply with "uh yeah but...DEMOCRATS! You have TDS! You have jaundice!"
Let's start with what I originally said:
Do you agree the death toll could have been smaller had the President put in place measures 2+ weeks sooner than they were?Possible Answers:
- Yes, I like math
- No, maths is t3h sux0rs
- 1+1 = But, democrats!
- I'm calling the Jaundice TDS police
And what's the fucking point of even asking what would happen if he had done it 2 weeks sooner? I'll tell you why - so you can take another stupid swipe at Trump. That's why you asked the question and you fucking know it. Then to top it off, when it's pointed out to you that the man took action TWO GODDAMN MONTHS before the date you picked, your brain clicks off and you stick to your incorrect set of "facts" just like every other run of the mill Trump basher. You don't have it in you to say "my bad, I didn't realize Trump took action months before my two week what if date". Nah, that would require you to have to face the reality that your entire premise is wrong.
That kind of shit pisses me off. If you want to bash Trump do it with something based in reality, not the bull shit you're trying to peddle.
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I know what 89th - let's make it even more crazy. Let's ask what how many fewer people would have died if Trump had gone to China in 2018 and shot everyone dead in Wuhan.
It's Trumps fault that the virus got out because he could have stopped it in 2018 by killing everyone in China but he didn't, that sorry bastard!
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Trump takes an action in January.
Brags about how the situation is nothing and solved all Feb and half of March.
Then in March asks for credit on doing something in Jan when it’s obvious that the thing he did in Jan wasn’t anywhere close to enough.
Got it.
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Thanks for showing us that 89th was wrong. Too bad you had to do it by dumping yet another pile of bull shit at the same time, but at least we now have one TDS sufferer on record proving another TDS sufferer has his head up his own ass. That's something, at least.
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The blood of Corona virus deaths is on Trump's hands. Except that the virus doesn't cause open wounds so there is no blood, and that is exactly how he gets away with it. That, and the complicit right wing media, telling people to 'wash their hands', knowing full well that after doing so, the blood on the hands of Trump and his legion of followers will be washed away.
#PreserveTheEvidence
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I wouldn't say that Corona virus deaths are on Trump's hands.
It's akin to a general leading an army to battle. If the general gives a good faith best-effort of using his resources well - even if he botches it, you don't typically say the general has blood on his hands.
Trump doesn't want people to die, but he's just bad at this. He's bad at calculating risks and navigating scientific decisions.
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@Copper said in US has a shitload of cases:
@xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:
He's bad at calculating risks and navigating scientific decisions.
Like most self-made billionaires.
I’m sure you’d subject yourself to the ineffable political calculations of any billionaire - no matter their political stripe.
(Also does it count as self made billionaire if we know he inherited at least 9 figures)
Also / scientific thinking isn’t necessarily the path to riches unless you’re an engineer. Quite the opposite often.
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@xenon said in US has a shitload of cases:
I wouldn't say that Corona virus deaths are on Trump's hands.
It's akin to a general leading an army to battle. If the general gives a good faith best-effort of using his resources well - even if he botches it, you don't typically say the general has blood on his hands.
Trump doesn't want people to die, but he's just bad at this. He's bad at calculating risks and navigating scientific decisions.
Those are your opinions. They are not facts. That's the problem with both of you mental midgets - you create a scenario in your mind, then present your opinions as if they were facts. You are incapable of examining things without first squeezing it through your "I hate Trump" filter. You and 89th both.
So here's the truth, minus your crazy mental problem: first, science doesn't make decisions. Science studies things, and report the findings. Second, most all of the decisions Trump has made have been a direct result of taking the advice of the scientific and medical experts on the panel he set up for that very purpose. So to sit there and claim Trump is "bad at calculating risks and navigating scientific decisions" is just outright stupid.
The truth is, Trump acted quickly, and every decision he has made has been the direct result of the advice he was given by the team of experts he hired. When he was shutting down travel from China, the democrats and the news media were busy telling us not to worry, it wasn't going to be a problem, get out in a crowd, go to Chinatown, Trump is a fool and a xenophobe and there's nothing to worry about. But neither you nor 89th has said a single word condemning that. You skip right over that because it would damage your narrative.
That's why both of you piss me off when it comes to this issue. Neither of you are intellectually honest, and it looking like you're simply not capable of it.
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@Larry You're wrong. "I hate Trump" is not my filter.
My filter that he's a very shallow thinker. He has nice, clean high-level messages - but he's not up to the task of the deliberative work of governing. This results in him saying things that - given the level of his office - are stupid.
He'd be perfectly endearing as an angry political-junkie uncle over for dinner.
I also happen to think he's an incredibly funny and charismatic guy
