Mask Observations
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@Ivorythumper said in Mask Observations:
I was having internet troubles last night, so this didn’t attach. This was the reference for my comment that liberals just want to be slaves.
What they want is for their mainstream ideas to be enforced with prejudice by the government. They have been raised in a culture where they basically assume the government will toe the line with their opinions, so they are for big government. It is a peculiarity of their disconnect from reality that they manage to be this utterly mainstream and pro government, while considering themselves and everybody they know and like, their whole social and professional circle, to be mavericky counter-culturalists.
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If the courts were taking away a government policy she didn't like, she'd be singing the praises of the US Constitution. And no doubt others would be complaining about activist judges.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Mask Observations:
If the courts were taking away a government policy she didn't like, she'd be singing the praises of the US Constitution. And no doubt others would be complaining about activist judges.
Uh, no.
One side of this argument will howl about outcomes, but still understand what correctly upholds the levers of power in this society. That side understands that change comes about by changing the forces that control those levers by fairly electing representatives who will change what they can, through Constitutionally proper procedures.
The other side is increasing concerned with power at any cost, Constitution or fair elections be damned.
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@Jolly said in Mask Observations:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Mask Observations:
If the courts were taking away a government policy she didn't like, she'd be singing the praises of the US Constitution. And no doubt others would be complaining about activist judges.
Uh, no.
One side of this argument will howl about outcomes, but still understand what correctly upholds the levers of power in this society. That side understands that change comes about by changing the forces that control those levers by fairly electing representatives who will change what they can, through Constitutionally proper procedures.
The other side is increasing concerned with power at any cost, Constitution or fair elections be damned.
Bullshit. Donald Trump or his supporters didn't do that, they lied about having the election stolen. He's still lying about it. He didn't do that for no reason.
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@Doctor-Phibes And you are more full of shit than a Christmas turkey.
The precise reason January 6th happened, is because people doubted a fair election had taken place.
Even a moron could figure out the solution is to tweak the system to ensure absolute transparency and no way to game elections for anybody's advantage.
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@Jolly said in Mask Observations:
@Doctor-Phibes And you are more full of shit than a Christmas turkey.
The precise reason January 6th happened, is because people doubted a fair election had taken place.
Even a moron could figure out the solution is to tweak the system to ensure absolute transparency and no way to game elections for anybody's advantage.
No, this is a misrepresentation of what happened. The people invading the Capitol building were by and large not sophisticated high-information voters. They were useful idiots that had been mobilized by a highly cynical individual who for reasons best known to himself was incapable of admitting that he lost.
And, for what it's worth, I fully support the implementation of Voter -ID, and ensuring election transparency.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Mask Observations:
The people invading the Capitol building were by and large not sophisticated high-information voters. They were useful idiots that had been mobilized by a highly cynical individual who for reasons best known to himself was incapable of admitting that he lost.
I thought they were mostly FBI agents pretending to be doofusses.