RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates
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wrote on 20 Apr 2022, 14:32 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Joe Rogan will invite both candidates to have a four hour discussion.
I'd pay good money to watch that.
Not a lot of money, but it would be good.
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wrote on 20 Apr 2022, 14:36 last edited by jon-nyc
Funny I used to read his podcast titles as they came out. I would recognize maybe 1 in 20 guest names since I don’t follow stand-up comedy or MMA. But I listened to many of the guests I recognized.
But now he’s behind a paywall
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Funny I used to read his podcast titles as they came out. I would recognize maybe 1 in 20 guest names since I don’t follow stand-up comedy or MMA. But I listened to many of the guests I recognized.
But now he’s behind a paywall
wrote on 20 Apr 2022, 19:37 last edited by@jon-nyc said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
But now he’s behind a paywall
From now on all my TNCR comments will be behind a paywall. I'm not giving it away anymore like Aqua's Sister.
Venmo or Zelle.
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wrote on 20 Apr 2022, 21:12 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Joe Rogan will invite both candidates to have a four hour discussion.
Sadly I think this is the direction we are heading over the next decade or two. I actually would pay good money too... but I feel like we are heading towards Idiocracy...
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@jon-nyc said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Joe Rogan will invite both candidates to have a four hour discussion.
Sadly I think this is the direction we are heading over the next decade or two. I actually would pay good money too... but I feel like we are heading towards Idiocracy...
wrote on 20 Apr 2022, 21:17 last edited by@89th said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@jon-nyc said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Joe Rogan will invite both candidates to have a four hour discussion.
Sadly I think this is the direction we are heading over the next decade or two. I actually would pay good money too... but I feel like we are heading towards Idiocracy...
What is sad about the idea of a long form discussions with politicians, a la Joe Rogan?
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@89th said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@jon-nyc said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Joe Rogan will invite both candidates to have a four hour discussion.
Sadly I think this is the direction we are heading over the next decade or two. I actually would pay good money too... but I feel like we are heading towards Idiocracy...
What is sad about the idea of a long form discussions with politicians, a la Joe Rogan?
wrote on 20 Apr 2022, 21:33 last edited by@Horace said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@89th said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@jon-nyc said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Joe Rogan will invite both candidates to have a four hour discussion.
Sadly I think this is the direction we are heading over the next decade or two. I actually would pay good money too... but I feel like we are heading towards Idiocracy...
What is sad about the idea of a long form discussions with politicians, a la Joe Rogan?
The only difference is one of new vs establishment media. Debates should be on NBC and not a podcast because they always have been.
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wrote on 20 Apr 2022, 23:11 last edited by
- No moderators
- A timekeeper and a large traffic signal light everyone can see, Green for 3 minutes, Yellow for 30 seconds to wrap up, and Red - that’s when your microphone is OFF to prevent unwarranted interruption.
3)Take the top ten issues and let the candidates ask the other a question related to that issue. Allow the 3.5 minute response, then the questioner gets a 1 minute rebuttal. The you go to the other candidate to pose a question on the same topic. - 10 topics at 4.5 minutes each or 9 minutes per topic.
And use technology to scramble any cheating, such as in-ear devices, etc. They each can bring hand-written notes and are allowed a scratch pad.
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- No moderators
- A timekeeper and a large traffic signal light everyone can see, Green for 3 minutes, Yellow for 30 seconds to wrap up, and Red - that’s when your microphone is OFF to prevent unwarranted interruption.
3)Take the top ten issues and let the candidates ask the other a question related to that issue. Allow the 3.5 minute response, then the questioner gets a 1 minute rebuttal. The you go to the other candidate to pose a question on the same topic. - 10 topics at 4.5 minutes each or 9 minutes per topic.
And use technology to scramble any cheating, such as in-ear devices, etc. They each can bring hand-written notes and are allowed a scratch pad.
wrote on 21 Apr 2022, 04:02 last edited by@Jolly said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
- No moderators
- A timekeeper and a large traffic signal light everyone can see, Green for 3 minutes, Yellow for 30 seconds to wrap up, and Red - that’s when your microphone is OFF to prevent unwarranted interruption.
3)Take the top ten issues and let the candidates ask the other a question related to that issue. Allow the 3.5 minute response, then the questioner gets a 1 minute rebuttal. The you go to the other candidate to pose a question on the same topic. - 10 topics at 4.5 minutes each or 9 minutes per topic.
And use technology to scramble any cheating, such as in-ear devices, etc. They each can bring hand-written notes and are allowed a scratch pad.
Is the RNC demanding those changes?
Regardless, I am OK with the first four points.
As for the last point about scrambling in-ear devices, etc. to prevent cheating. I have two problem with this:
(1) there is no evidence of cheating, and if the final candidates who won their respective primaries are such petty cheaters, we as a nation and as a people have much bigger problems than cheating on televised debates.
(2) Running the executive branch of the nation is not a one-person job. It is a team effort. It is arguable that it is even more important for the leader to be able to assemble and inspire a team of very smart people to work towards a coherent set of goals than it is for the leader to be personally very smart him/herself. So I would prefer the leading candidates all debate with their full team of support staff and subject matter experts on deck running fact-checking and feeding them facts and statistics and tactical information during debate. It makes no sense to vote for a leader based on who can memorize more factual information that can be easily Googled these days. Lets see the combined intellect of his/her whole team.
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@89th said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@jon-nyc said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Joe Rogan will invite both candidates to have a four hour discussion.
Sadly I think this is the direction we are heading over the next decade or two. I actually would pay good money too... but I feel like we are heading towards Idiocracy...
What is sad about the idea of a long form discussions with politicians, a la Joe Rogan?
wrote on 21 Apr 2022, 11:34 last edited by@Horace said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@89th said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@jon-nyc said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Joe Rogan will invite both candidates to have a four hour discussion.
Sadly I think this is the direction we are heading over the next decade or two. I actually would pay good money too... but I feel like we are heading towards Idiocracy...
What is sad about the idea of a long form discussions with politicians, a la Joe Rogan?
It's sad that we are unable, it seems, to have formal, civil, debates. Or sad that long form discussions would be held by someone who is a comedian and previous host of a show that required contestants to eat live cockroaches. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a good conversation/facilitator on his show, but again... Idiocracy, watch it. Our society should have higher standards.
@Jolly I like that format, especially the mic being cut off when it's not your turn to speak. I doubt the candidates would stick to the topics though if no moderator was present.
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@Horace said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@89th said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@jon-nyc said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Joe Rogan will invite both candidates to have a four hour discussion.
Sadly I think this is the direction we are heading over the next decade or two. I actually would pay good money too... but I feel like we are heading towards Idiocracy...
What is sad about the idea of a long form discussions with politicians, a la Joe Rogan?
It's sad that we are unable, it seems, to have formal, civil, debates. Or sad that long form discussions would be held by someone who is a comedian and previous host of a show that required contestants to eat live cockroaches. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a good conversation/facilitator on his show, but again... Idiocracy, watch it. Our society should have higher standards.
@Jolly I like that format, especially the mic being cut off when it's not your turn to speak. I doubt the candidates would stick to the topics though if no moderator was present.
wrote on 21 Apr 2022, 12:19 last edited by@89th said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
It's sad that we are unable, it seems, to have formal, civil, debates.
Ah, shut up. You're a clown.
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@Jolly said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
- No moderators
- A timekeeper and a large traffic signal light everyone can see, Green for 3 minutes, Yellow for 30 seconds to wrap up, and Red - that’s when your microphone is OFF to prevent unwarranted interruption.
3)Take the top ten issues and let the candidates ask the other a question related to that issue. Allow the 3.5 minute response, then the questioner gets a 1 minute rebuttal. The you go to the other candidate to pose a question on the same topic. - 10 topics at 4.5 minutes each or 9 minutes per topic.
And use technology to scramble any cheating, such as in-ear devices, etc. They each can bring hand-written notes and are allowed a scratch pad.
Is the RNC demanding those changes?
Regardless, I am OK with the first four points.
As for the last point about scrambling in-ear devices, etc. to prevent cheating. I have two problem with this:
(1) there is no evidence of cheating, and if the final candidates who won their respective primaries are such petty cheaters, we as a nation and as a people have much bigger problems than cheating on televised debates.
(2) Running the executive branch of the nation is not a one-person job. It is a team effort. It is arguable that it is even more important for the leader to be able to assemble and inspire a team of very smart people to work towards a coherent set of goals than it is for the leader to be personally very smart him/herself. So I would prefer the leading candidates all debate with their full team of support staff and subject matter experts on deck running fact-checking and feeding them facts and statistics and tactical information during debate. It makes no sense to vote for a leader based on who can memorize more factual information that can be easily Googled these days. Lets see the combined intellect of his/her whole team.
wrote on 21 Apr 2022, 12:36 last edited by@Axtremus said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@Jolly said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
- No moderators
- A timekeeper and a large traffic signal light everyone can see, Green for 3 minutes, Yellow for 30 seconds to wrap up, and Red - that’s when your microphone is OFF to prevent unwarranted interruption.
3)Take the top ten issues and let the candidates ask the other a question related to that issue. Allow the 3.5 minute response, then the questioner gets a 1 minute rebuttal. The you go to the other candidate to pose a question on the same topic. - 10 topics at 4.5 minutes each or 9 minutes per topic.
And use technology to scramble any cheating, such as in-ear devices, etc. They each can bring hand-written notes and are allowed a scratch pad.
Is the RNC demanding those changes?
Regardless, I am OK with the first four points.
As for the last point about scrambling in-ear devices, etc. to prevent cheating. I have two problem with this:
(1) there is no evidence of cheating, and if the final candidates who won their respective primaries are such petty cheaters, we as a nation and as a people have much bigger problems than cheating on televised debates.
(2) Running the executive branch of the nation is not a one-person job. It is a team effort. It is arguable that it is even more important for the leader to be able to assemble and inspire a team of very smart people to work towards a coherent set of goals than it is for the leader to be personally very smart him/herself. So I would prefer the leading candidates all debate with their full team of support staff and subject matter experts on deck running fact-checking and feeding them facts and statistics and tactical information during debate. It makes no sense to vote for a leader based on who can memorize more factual information that can be easily Googled these days. Lets see the combined intellect of his/her whole team.
And what a clusterfuck that would be...
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@Horace said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@89th said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@jon-nyc said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Joe Rogan will invite both candidates to have a four hour discussion.
Sadly I think this is the direction we are heading over the next decade or two. I actually would pay good money too... but I feel like we are heading towards Idiocracy...
What is sad about the idea of a long form discussions with politicians, a la Joe Rogan?
It's sad that we are unable, it seems, to have formal, civil, debates. Or sad that long form discussions would be held by someone who is a comedian and previous host of a show that required contestants to eat live cockroaches. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a good conversation/facilitator on his show, but again... Idiocracy, watch it. Our society should have higher standards.
@Jolly I like that format, especially the mic being cut off when it's not your turn to speak. I doubt the candidates would stick to the topics though if no moderator was present.
wrote on 21 Apr 2022, 12:41 last edited by@89th said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@Horace said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@89th said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@jon-nyc said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Joe Rogan will invite both candidates to have a four hour discussion.
Sadly I think this is the direction we are heading over the next decade or two. I actually would pay good money too... but I feel like we are heading towards Idiocracy...
What is sad about the idea of a long form discussions with politicians, a la Joe Rogan?
It's sad that we are unable, it seems, to have formal, civil, debates. Or sad that long form discussions would be held by someone who is a comedian and previous host of a show that required contestants to eat live cockroaches. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a good conversation/facilitator on his show, but again... Idiocracy, watch it. Our society should have higher standards.
@Jolly I like that format, especially the mic being cut off when it's not your turn to speak. I doubt the candidates would stick to the topics though if no moderator was present.
Not sticking to topics? Okay. I think that if one candidate dodges or ducks topics constantly, the public will make up their own minds about that.
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@89th said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@Horace said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@89th said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@jon-nyc said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Joe Rogan will invite both candidates to have a four hour discussion.
Sadly I think this is the direction we are heading over the next decade or two. I actually would pay good money too... but I feel like we are heading towards Idiocracy...
What is sad about the idea of a long form discussions with politicians, a la Joe Rogan?
It's sad that we are unable, it seems, to have formal, civil, debates. Or sad that long form discussions would be held by someone who is a comedian and previous host of a show that required contestants to eat live cockroaches. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a good conversation/facilitator on his show, but again... Idiocracy, watch it. Our society should have higher standards.
@Jolly I like that format, especially the mic being cut off when it's not your turn to speak. I doubt the candidates would stick to the topics though if no moderator was present.
Not sticking to topics? Okay. I think that if one candidate dodges or ducks topics constantly, the public will make up their own minds about that.
wrote on 21 Apr 2022, 13:29 last edited by@Jolly said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Link to videothe public will make up their own minds about that.
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wrote on 21 Apr 2022, 16:48 last edited by
One reason Trump rallies are fun...Trump, for all of his faults has a sense of humor. And while Trump does make fun of a lot of people, he can also poke a little fun at himself.