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  • JollyJ Jolly

    Maybe. You at least heard that viewpoint, right or wrong. If you want something you always agree with, may I suggest the NYT.

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    George K
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    @jolly said in Alex Barenson is an a-hole:

    You at least heard that viewpoint, right or wrong.

    That's a good point.

    But, TuCa sat there not pushing back asking for proof, etc. So, he's an asshole for that.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      From the little I've seen Carlson has been moving more and more towards supporting conspiracy theories.

      He's in danger of filling the gaping void left by Glenn Beck, another guy who provided stuff you'd see on his show and nowhere else.

      I was only joking

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        Spreading misinformation about Covid isn't smart. There's a difference between clever and smart.

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        #16

        @doctor-phibes said in Alex Barenson is an a-hole:

        Spreading misinformation about Covid isn't smart. There's a difference between clever and smart.

        I believe in one of his posts here a couple of months ago, bach once described spreading misinformation about C19 as evil. I would agree.

        In any case this Berenson charlatan (whom I had never heard about until this thread) appears to have been at this C19 misinformation game for some time.

        https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/618475/

        I am sure that in addition to getting plenty of attention from the likes of Carlson, he is making money from it. Perfect incentives with little accountability, especially when the disinformation is portrayed as nothing more than an alternative point of view.

        Elbows up!

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          (With apologies to John Cooper Clarke):

          Like a nightclub in the morning, you're the bitter end
          Like a recently disinfected shithouse, you're clean round the bend
          You give me the horrors
          Too bad to be true
          All of my tomorrows
          Are lousy 'cause of you
          You put the Shat in Shatter
          Put the Pain in Spain
          Your germs are splattered about
          Your face is just a stain
          You're certainly no raver, commonly known as a drag
          Do us all a favor, here, wear this polythene bag
          You're like a dose of scabies
          I've got you under my skin
          You make life a fairytale
          Grimm!
          People mention murder, the moment you arrive
          I'd consider killing you if I thought you were alive
          You've got this slippery quality
          It makes me think of phlegm
          And a dual personality
          I hate both of them
          You're bad breath, vamps disease, destruction, and decay
          Please, please, please, please, take yourself away
          Like a death a birthday party
          You ruin all the fun
          Like a sucked and spat-our Smartie
          You're no use to anyone
          Like the shadow of the guillotine
          On a dead consumptive's face
          Speaking as an outsider
          What do you think of the human race?
          You went to a progressive psychiatrist
          He recommended suicide
          Before scratching your bad name off his list
          And pointing the way outside
          You hear laughter breaking through, it makes you want to fart
          You're heading for a breakdown
          Better pull yourself apart
          Your dirty name gets passed about when something goes amiss
          Your attitudes are platitudes
          Just make me wanna piss
          What kind of creature bore you
          Was it some kind of bat?
          They can't find a good word for you
          But I can
          Twat!

          I was only joking

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          • RenaudaR Renauda

            @doctor-phibes said in Alex Barenson is an a-hole:

            Spreading misinformation about Covid isn't smart. There's a difference between clever and smart.

            I believe in one of his posts here a couple of months ago, bach once described spreading misinformation about C19 as evil. I would agree.

            In any case this Berenson charlatan (whom I had never heard about until this thread) appears to have been at this C19 misinformation game for some time.

            https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/618475/

            I am sure that in addition to getting plenty of attention from the likes of Carlson, he is making money from it. Perfect incentives with little accountability, especially when the disinformation is portrayed as nothing more than an alternative point of view.

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            @renauda said in Alex Barenson is an a-hole:

            @doctor-phibes said in Alex Barenson is an a-hole:

            Spreading misinformation about Covid isn't smart. There's a difference between clever and smart.

            I believe in one of his posts here a couple of months ago, bach once described spreading misinformation about C19 as evil. I would agree.

            In any case this Barenson charlatan (whom I had never heard about until this thread) appears to have been at this C19 misinformation game for some time.

            https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/618475/

            I am sure that in addition to getting plenty of attention from the likes of Carlson, he is making money from it. Perfect incentives with little accountability, especially when the disinformation is portrayed as nothing more than an alternative point of view.

            What's interesting is that some of the misinformation has turned out to be true.

            Some not, but but some true.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @renauda said in Alex Barenson is an a-hole:

              @doctor-phibes said in Alex Barenson is an a-hole:

              Spreading misinformation about Covid isn't smart. There's a difference between clever and smart.

              I believe in one of his posts here a couple of months ago, bach once described spreading misinformation about C19 as evil. I would agree.

              In any case this Barenson charlatan (whom I had never heard about until this thread) appears to have been at this C19 misinformation game for some time.

              https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/618475/

              I am sure that in addition to getting plenty of attention from the likes of Carlson, he is making money from it. Perfect incentives with little accountability, especially when the disinformation is portrayed as nothing more than an alternative point of view.

              What's interesting is that some of the misinformation has turned out to be true.

              Some not, but but some true.

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              Doctor Phibes
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              @jolly said in Alex Barenson is an a-hole:

              What's interesting is that some of the misinformation has turned out to be true.
              Some not, but but some true.

              If you just make tons of shit up, then some of it will inevitably turn out to be true.

              It's the making shit up that's the problem.

              What qualifications does this guy have to make all these suppositions?

              Clearly, he's got an agenda. And exposing the truth isn't it.

              I was only joking

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                How much stuff have we been told from the beginning that was either A) blatantly known to be untrue, B) not known, but presented as known, and B)presented as fact, but later turned out to be false.

                Do you own homework and due diligence. Then, chart the best course you can, given the information you have.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  How much stuff have we been told from the beginning that was either A) blatantly known to be untrue, B) not known, but presented as known, and B)presented as fact, but later turned out to be false.

                  Do you own homework and due diligence. Then, chart the best course you can, given the information you have.

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  @jolly said in Alex Barenson is an a-hole:

                  How much stuff have we been told from the beginning that was either A) blatantly known to be untrue, B) not known, but presented as known, and B)presented as fact, but later turned out to be false.

                  What I do know is that right from the beginning, there has been a group of people downplaying the seriousness of this disease, and they have been wrong time and time again, and the body count has continued to rise. Fuck them.

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    @jolly said in Alex Barenson is an a-hole:

                    How much stuff have we been told from the beginning that was either A) blatantly known to be untrue, B) not known, but presented as known, and B)presented as fact, but later turned out to be false.

                    What I do know is that right from the beginning, there has been a group of people downplaying the seriousness of this disease, and they have been wrong time and time again, and the body count has continued to rise. Fuck them.

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                    #22

                    @doctor-phibes said in Alex Barenson is an a-hole:

                    @jolly said in Alex Barenson is an a-hole:

                    How much stuff have we been told from the beginning that was either A) blatantly known to be untrue, B) not known, but presented as known, and B)presented as fact, but later turned out to be false.

                    What I do know is that right from the beginning, there has been a group of people downplaying the seriousness of this disease, and they have been wrong time and time again, and the body count has continued to rise. Fuck them.

                    Well, here's your next batch...
                    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/former-biden-advisers-change-covid-19-strategy-live-with-it-not-shut-it-down

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      How much stuff have we been told from the beginning that was either A) blatantly known to be untrue, B) not known, but presented as known, and B)presented as fact, but later turned out to be false.

                      Do you own homework and due diligence. Then, chart the best course you can, given the information you have.

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                      @jolly said in Alex Berenson is an a-hole:

                      Do you own homework and due diligence.

                      Very good advice, in theory. Remember the average IQ is 100.

                      Then, chart the best course you can, given the information you have.

                      And when the information you have, like Berenson's, is ridiculous, and you don't know any better (as we do, supposedly), then what?

                      https://grabien.com/story.php?id=362891

                      BERENSON: “Right. They wouldn’t drop water on me if I were on fire. I am telling the truth. Long Covid, long Covid is a joke unfortunately medically. We have to be aware these people are suffering. It’s like chronic fatigue syndrome that have taken over parts of medicine in the last 30 years. Middle aged women, a certain person fits this profile. Suffering from fatigue and pain and depression and they work pretty hard to medicalize their condition. Men have their own ways of dealing with it.”

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        @jolly said in Alex Berenson is an a-hole:

                        Do you own homework and due diligence.

                        Very good advice, in theory. Remember the average IQ is 100.

                        Then, chart the best course you can, given the information you have.

                        And when the information you have, like Berenson's, is ridiculous, and you don't know any better (as we do, supposedly), then what?

                        https://grabien.com/story.php?id=362891

                        BERENSON: “Right. They wouldn’t drop water on me if I were on fire. I am telling the truth. Long Covid, long Covid is a joke unfortunately medically. We have to be aware these people are suffering. It’s like chronic fatigue syndrome that have taken over parts of medicine in the last 30 years. Middle aged women, a certain person fits this profile. Suffering from fatigue and pain and depression and they work pretty hard to medicalize their condition. Men have their own ways of dealing with it.”

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                        @george-k

                        Sounds like Barenson is confusing the reality of Long Haul Covid with the dubiousness of fibromyalgia. That, or he’s an unabashed plagiarist as well as a charlatan.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • George KG George K

                          @jolly said in Alex Berenson is an a-hole:

                          Do you own homework and due diligence.

                          Very good advice, in theory. Remember the average IQ is 100.

                          Then, chart the best course you can, given the information you have.

                          And when the information you have, like Berenson's, is ridiculous, and you don't know any better (as we do, supposedly), then what?

                          https://grabien.com/story.php?id=362891

                          BERENSON: “Right. They wouldn’t drop water on me if I were on fire. I am telling the truth. Long Covid, long Covid is a joke unfortunately medically. We have to be aware these people are suffering. It’s like chronic fatigue syndrome that have taken over parts of medicine in the last 30 years. Middle aged women, a certain person fits this profile. Suffering from fatigue and pain and depression and they work pretty hard to medicalize their condition. Men have their own ways of dealing with it.”

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                          @george-k said in Alex Berenson is an a-hole:

                          @jolly said in Alex Berenson is an a-hole:

                          Do you own homework and due diligence.

                          Very good advice, in theory. Remember the average IQ is 100.

                          Then, chart the best course you can, given the information you have.

                          And when the information you have, like Berenson's, is ridiculous, and you don't know any better (as we do, supposedly), then what?

                          https://grabien.com/story.php?id=362891

                          BERENSON: “Right. They wouldn’t drop water on me if I were on fire. I am telling the truth. Long Covid, long Covid is a joke unfortunately medically. We have to be aware these people are suffering. It’s like chronic fatigue syndrome that have taken over parts of medicine in the last 30 years. Middle aged women, a certain person fits this profile. Suffering from fatigue and pain and depression and they work pretty hard to medicalize their condition. Men have their own ways of dealing with it.”

                          So, you've got one guy giving his opinion and it's gospel?

                          In light of COVID, I don't think anybody does that.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @george-k said in Alex Berenson is an a-hole:

                            @jolly said in Alex Berenson is an a-hole:

                            Do you own homework and due diligence.

                            Very good advice, in theory. Remember the average IQ is 100.

                            Then, chart the best course you can, given the information you have.

                            And when the information you have, like Berenson's, is ridiculous, and you don't know any better (as we do, supposedly), then what?

                            https://grabien.com/story.php?id=362891

                            BERENSON: “Right. They wouldn’t drop water on me if I were on fire. I am telling the truth. Long Covid, long Covid is a joke unfortunately medically. We have to be aware these people are suffering. It’s like chronic fatigue syndrome that have taken over parts of medicine in the last 30 years. Middle aged women, a certain person fits this profile. Suffering from fatigue and pain and depression and they work pretty hard to medicalize their condition. Men have their own ways of dealing with it.”

                            So, you've got one guy giving his opinion and it's gospel?

                            In light of COVID, I don't think anybody does that.

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                            @jolly said in Alex Berenson is an a-hole:

                            So, you've got one guy giving his opinion and it's gospel?

                            I didn't say it's gospel. I said

                            1. People are stupid
                            2. TuCa nodded, accepting this a-hole's word as gospel, with ZERO pushback
                            3. He's wrong.
                            4. People will accept what he says because of #2.

                            In light of COVID, I don't think anybody does that.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              I like Tucker.

                              I don't accept everything he says as gospel. Or everything his guests say as gospel.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                I like Tucker.

                                I don't accept everything he says as gospel. Or everything his guests say as gospel.

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                                @jolly said in Alex Berenson is an a-hole:

                                I like Tucker.

                                Most of the time, so do I. He's provocative, to say the least. I don't think he's descended into Beck territory, yet.

                                I don't accept everything he says as gospel. Or everything his guests say as gospel.

                                Yes, and that's one of my points. What his guests was clearly wrong, and, if he considers a journalist, he should have pushed back. And he didn't. He smiled and nodded, accepting Berenson's comments without question or criticism.

                                That should be his job.

                                But, it's not.

                                His job is to make money for Fox (which he's doing very well, I might add), so, there's that.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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