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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on 6 Jan 2022, 13:22 last edited by
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    From the little I've seen Carlson has been moving more and more towards supporting conspiracy theories.

    He's in danger of filling the gaping void left by Glenn Beck, another guy who provided stuff you'd see on his show and nowhere else.

    I was only joking

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    • D Doctor Phibes
      6 Jan 2022, 02:41

      Spreading misinformation about Covid isn't smart. There's a difference between clever and smart.

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      Renauda
      wrote on 6 Jan 2022, 16:31 last edited by George K 1 Jun 2022, 23:03
      #16

      @doctor-phibes said in Alex Barenson is an a-hole:

      Spreading misinformation about Covid isn't smart. There's a difference between clever and smart.

      I believe in one of his posts here a couple of months ago, bach once described spreading misinformation about C19 as evil. I would agree.

      In any case this Berenson charlatan (whom I had never heard about until this thread) appears to have been at this C19 misinformation game for some time.

      https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/618475/

      I am sure that in addition to getting plenty of attention from the likes of Carlson, he is making money from it. Perfect incentives with little accountability, especially when the disinformation is portrayed as nothing more than an alternative point of view.

      Elbows up!

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 6 Jan 2022, 16:51 last edited by
        #17

        (With apologies to John Cooper Clarke):

        Like a nightclub in the morning, you're the bitter end
        Like a recently disinfected shithouse, you're clean round the bend
        You give me the horrors
        Too bad to be true
        All of my tomorrows
        Are lousy 'cause of you
        You put the Shat in Shatter
        Put the Pain in Spain
        Your germs are splattered about
        Your face is just a stain
        You're certainly no raver, commonly known as a drag
        Do us all a favor, here, wear this polythene bag
        You're like a dose of scabies
        I've got you under my skin
        You make life a fairytale
        Grimm!
        People mention murder, the moment you arrive
        I'd consider killing you if I thought you were alive
        You've got this slippery quality
        It makes me think of phlegm
        And a dual personality
        I hate both of them
        You're bad breath, vamps disease, destruction, and decay
        Please, please, please, please, take yourself away
        Like a death a birthday party
        You ruin all the fun
        Like a sucked and spat-our Smartie
        You're no use to anyone
        Like the shadow of the guillotine
        On a dead consumptive's face
        Speaking as an outsider
        What do you think of the human race?
        You went to a progressive psychiatrist
        He recommended suicide
        Before scratching your bad name off his list
        And pointing the way outside
        You hear laughter breaking through, it makes you want to fart
        You're heading for a breakdown
        Better pull yourself apart
        Your dirty name gets passed about when something goes amiss
        Your attitudes are platitudes
        Just make me wanna piss
        What kind of creature bore you
        Was it some kind of bat?
        They can't find a good word for you
        But I can
        Twat!

        I was only joking

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        • R Renauda
          6 Jan 2022, 16:31

          @doctor-phibes said in Alex Barenson is an a-hole:

          Spreading misinformation about Covid isn't smart. There's a difference between clever and smart.

          I believe in one of his posts here a couple of months ago, bach once described spreading misinformation about C19 as evil. I would agree.

          In any case this Berenson charlatan (whom I had never heard about until this thread) appears to have been at this C19 misinformation game for some time.

          https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/618475/

          I am sure that in addition to getting plenty of attention from the likes of Carlson, he is making money from it. Perfect incentives with little accountability, especially when the disinformation is portrayed as nothing more than an alternative point of view.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 6 Jan 2022, 19:19 last edited by
          #18

          @renauda said in Alex Barenson is an a-hole:

          @doctor-phibes said in Alex Barenson is an a-hole:

          Spreading misinformation about Covid isn't smart. There's a difference between clever and smart.

          I believe in one of his posts here a couple of months ago, bach once described spreading misinformation about C19 as evil. I would agree.

          In any case this Barenson charlatan (whom I had never heard about until this thread) appears to have been at this C19 misinformation game for some time.

          https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/618475/

          I am sure that in addition to getting plenty of attention from the likes of Carlson, he is making money from it. Perfect incentives with little accountability, especially when the disinformation is portrayed as nothing more than an alternative point of view.

          What's interesting is that some of the misinformation has turned out to be true.

          Some not, but but some true.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • J Jolly
            6 Jan 2022, 19:19

            @renauda said in Alex Barenson is an a-hole:

            @doctor-phibes said in Alex Barenson is an a-hole:

            Spreading misinformation about Covid isn't smart. There's a difference between clever and smart.

            I believe in one of his posts here a couple of months ago, bach once described spreading misinformation about C19 as evil. I would agree.

            In any case this Barenson charlatan (whom I had never heard about until this thread) appears to have been at this C19 misinformation game for some time.

            https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/618475/

            I am sure that in addition to getting plenty of attention from the likes of Carlson, he is making money from it. Perfect incentives with little accountability, especially when the disinformation is portrayed as nothing more than an alternative point of view.

            What's interesting is that some of the misinformation has turned out to be true.

            Some not, but but some true.

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 6 Jan 2022, 19:55 last edited by Doctor Phibes 1 Jun 2022, 19:57
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            @jolly said in Alex Barenson is an a-hole:

            What's interesting is that some of the misinformation has turned out to be true.
            Some not, but but some true.

            If you just make tons of shit up, then some of it will inevitably turn out to be true.

            It's the making shit up that's the problem.

            What qualifications does this guy have to make all these suppositions?

            Clearly, he's got an agenda. And exposing the truth isn't it.

            I was only joking

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              Jolly
              wrote on 6 Jan 2022, 22:35 last edited by
              #20

              How much stuff have we been told from the beginning that was either A) blatantly known to be untrue, B) not known, but presented as known, and B)presented as fact, but later turned out to be false.

              Do you own homework and due diligence. Then, chart the best course you can, given the information you have.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • J Jolly
                6 Jan 2022, 22:35

                How much stuff have we been told from the beginning that was either A) blatantly known to be untrue, B) not known, but presented as known, and B)presented as fact, but later turned out to be false.

                Do you own homework and due diligence. Then, chart the best course you can, given the information you have.

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 6 Jan 2022, 22:52 last edited by
                #21

                @jolly said in Alex Barenson is an a-hole:

                How much stuff have we been told from the beginning that was either A) blatantly known to be untrue, B) not known, but presented as known, and B)presented as fact, but later turned out to be false.

                What I do know is that right from the beginning, there has been a group of people downplaying the seriousness of this disease, and they have been wrong time and time again, and the body count has continued to rise. Fuck them.

                I was only joking

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                • D Doctor Phibes
                  6 Jan 2022, 22:52

                  @jolly said in Alex Barenson is an a-hole:

                  How much stuff have we been told from the beginning that was either A) blatantly known to be untrue, B) not known, but presented as known, and B)presented as fact, but later turned out to be false.

                  What I do know is that right from the beginning, there has been a group of people downplaying the seriousness of this disease, and they have been wrong time and time again, and the body count has continued to rise. Fuck them.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 6 Jan 2022, 22:53 last edited by
                  #22

                  @doctor-phibes said in Alex Barenson is an a-hole:

                  @jolly said in Alex Barenson is an a-hole:

                  How much stuff have we been told from the beginning that was either A) blatantly known to be untrue, B) not known, but presented as known, and B)presented as fact, but later turned out to be false.

                  What I do know is that right from the beginning, there has been a group of people downplaying the seriousness of this disease, and they have been wrong time and time again, and the body count has continued to rise. Fuck them.

                  Well, here's your next batch...
                  https://www.foxnews.com/politics/former-biden-advisers-change-covid-19-strategy-live-with-it-not-shut-it-down

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • J Jolly
                    6 Jan 2022, 22:35

                    How much stuff have we been told from the beginning that was either A) blatantly known to be untrue, B) not known, but presented as known, and B)presented as fact, but later turned out to be false.

                    Do you own homework and due diligence. Then, chart the best course you can, given the information you have.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 6 Jan 2022, 23:00 last edited by George K 1 Jun 2022, 23:02
                    #23

                    @jolly said in Alex Berenson is an a-hole:

                    Do you own homework and due diligence.

                    Very good advice, in theory. Remember the average IQ is 100.

                    Then, chart the best course you can, given the information you have.

                    And when the information you have, like Berenson's, is ridiculous, and you don't know any better (as we do, supposedly), then what?

                    https://grabien.com/story.php?id=362891

                    BERENSON: “Right. They wouldn’t drop water on me if I were on fire. I am telling the truth. Long Covid, long Covid is a joke unfortunately medically. We have to be aware these people are suffering. It’s like chronic fatigue syndrome that have taken over parts of medicine in the last 30 years. Middle aged women, a certain person fits this profile. Suffering from fatigue and pain and depression and they work pretty hard to medicalize their condition. Men have their own ways of dealing with it.”

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • G George K
                      6 Jan 2022, 23:00

                      @jolly said in Alex Berenson is an a-hole:

                      Do you own homework and due diligence.

                      Very good advice, in theory. Remember the average IQ is 100.

                      Then, chart the best course you can, given the information you have.

                      And when the information you have, like Berenson's, is ridiculous, and you don't know any better (as we do, supposedly), then what?

                      https://grabien.com/story.php?id=362891

                      BERENSON: “Right. They wouldn’t drop water on me if I were on fire. I am telling the truth. Long Covid, long Covid is a joke unfortunately medically. We have to be aware these people are suffering. It’s like chronic fatigue syndrome that have taken over parts of medicine in the last 30 years. Middle aged women, a certain person fits this profile. Suffering from fatigue and pain and depression and they work pretty hard to medicalize their condition. Men have their own ways of dealing with it.”

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 6 Jan 2022, 23:15 last edited by
                      #24

                      @george-k

                      Sounds like Barenson is confusing the reality of Long Haul Covid with the dubiousness of fibromyalgia. That, or he’s an unabashed plagiarist as well as a charlatan.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • G George K
                        6 Jan 2022, 23:00

                        @jolly said in Alex Berenson is an a-hole:

                        Do you own homework and due diligence.

                        Very good advice, in theory. Remember the average IQ is 100.

                        Then, chart the best course you can, given the information you have.

                        And when the information you have, like Berenson's, is ridiculous, and you don't know any better (as we do, supposedly), then what?

                        https://grabien.com/story.php?id=362891

                        BERENSON: “Right. They wouldn’t drop water on me if I were on fire. I am telling the truth. Long Covid, long Covid is a joke unfortunately medically. We have to be aware these people are suffering. It’s like chronic fatigue syndrome that have taken over parts of medicine in the last 30 years. Middle aged women, a certain person fits this profile. Suffering from fatigue and pain and depression and they work pretty hard to medicalize their condition. Men have their own ways of dealing with it.”

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 6 Jan 2022, 23:20 last edited by
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                        @george-k said in Alex Berenson is an a-hole:

                        @jolly said in Alex Berenson is an a-hole:

                        Do you own homework and due diligence.

                        Very good advice, in theory. Remember the average IQ is 100.

                        Then, chart the best course you can, given the information you have.

                        And when the information you have, like Berenson's, is ridiculous, and you don't know any better (as we do, supposedly), then what?

                        https://grabien.com/story.php?id=362891

                        BERENSON: “Right. They wouldn’t drop water on me if I were on fire. I am telling the truth. Long Covid, long Covid is a joke unfortunately medically. We have to be aware these people are suffering. It’s like chronic fatigue syndrome that have taken over parts of medicine in the last 30 years. Middle aged women, a certain person fits this profile. Suffering from fatigue and pain and depression and they work pretty hard to medicalize their condition. Men have their own ways of dealing with it.”

                        So, you've got one guy giving his opinion and it's gospel?

                        In light of COVID, I don't think anybody does that.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • J Jolly
                          6 Jan 2022, 23:20

                          @george-k said in Alex Berenson is an a-hole:

                          @jolly said in Alex Berenson is an a-hole:

                          Do you own homework and due diligence.

                          Very good advice, in theory. Remember the average IQ is 100.

                          Then, chart the best course you can, given the information you have.

                          And when the information you have, like Berenson's, is ridiculous, and you don't know any better (as we do, supposedly), then what?

                          https://grabien.com/story.php?id=362891

                          BERENSON: “Right. They wouldn’t drop water on me if I were on fire. I am telling the truth. Long Covid, long Covid is a joke unfortunately medically. We have to be aware these people are suffering. It’s like chronic fatigue syndrome that have taken over parts of medicine in the last 30 years. Middle aged women, a certain person fits this profile. Suffering from fatigue and pain and depression and they work pretty hard to medicalize their condition. Men have their own ways of dealing with it.”

                          So, you've got one guy giving his opinion and it's gospel?

                          In light of COVID, I don't think anybody does that.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 6 Jan 2022, 23:24 last edited by
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                          @jolly said in Alex Berenson is an a-hole:

                          So, you've got one guy giving his opinion and it's gospel?

                          I didn't say it's gospel. I said

                          1. People are stupid
                          2. TuCa nodded, accepting this a-hole's word as gospel, with ZERO pushback
                          3. He's wrong.
                          4. People will accept what he says because of #2.

                          In light of COVID, I don't think anybody does that.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 6 Jan 2022, 23:26 last edited by
                            #27

                            I like Tucker.

                            I don't accept everything he says as gospel. Or everything his guests say as gospel.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • J Jolly
                              6 Jan 2022, 23:26

                              I like Tucker.

                              I don't accept everything he says as gospel. Or everything his guests say as gospel.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 6 Jan 2022, 23:32 last edited by
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                              @jolly said in Alex Berenson is an a-hole:

                              I like Tucker.

                              Most of the time, so do I. He's provocative, to say the least. I don't think he's descended into Beck territory, yet.

                              I don't accept everything he says as gospel. Or everything his guests say as gospel.

                              Yes, and that's one of my points. What his guests was clearly wrong, and, if he considers a journalist, he should have pushed back. And he didn't. He smiled and nodded, accepting Berenson's comments without question or criticism.

                              That should be his job.

                              But, it's not.

                              His job is to make money for Fox (which he's doing very well, I might add), so, there's that.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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