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      How did he get elected?

      Folks like the intelligentsia next door voted for him. You know, the smart people.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        @jolly said in Remind me how he got elected?:

        How did he get elected?

        Folks like the intelligentsia next door voted for him. You know, the smart people.

        Biggest bunch of dumbasses I've ever seen gathered in one place.

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          Good window into white female progressive thought, which is to say mainstream leftist narrative thought. Entirely robotic in its response to ideas from the other tribe. Say something about race on that board as a white male, and you'll be met by white progressive females condemning you for your privilege and ignorance about what it is to be oppressed. No rational thought required, only virtue and outrage at the outgroup. "How dare you" disagree with me, a progressive white female of pure compassion, who understands the oppressed. Somehow. That is the political discussion in American culture, in a nutshell.

          Not all the posters there are progressive white females or feminized men. There are some not-quite-feminized men who are more defined by being inveterate status seekers, who, if pressed, express sympathy for reason, but who never volunteer it in the face of the righteous virtue noises of their tribe.

          Education is extremely important.

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            Most voters recognized Trump was bad for the country and the world and a foul human being on top of it all. They only needed a non-scary alternative and would take it. Biden was perceived as that. It really is that simple.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Most voters recognized Trump was bad for the country and the world and a foul human being on top of it all. They only needed a non-scary alternative and would take it. Biden was perceived as that. It really is that simple.

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              @jon-nyc said in Remind me how he got elected?:

              Most voters recognized Trump was bad for the country and the world and a foul human being on top of it all. They only needed a non-scary alternative and would take it. Biden was perceived as that. It really is that simple.

              Anybody who isn't willing to admit how destructive the righteous TDS that overcame the culture was, has no standing to claim a principled stance against things that are bad for the country and the world.

              If it comes down to something simple, it is an unwillingness or even an inability to hold one's nose and live through a circumstance one finds repulsive, without throwing a temper tantrum. This is why I've called TDS sufferers 'dainty little princesses', because that describes perfectly well the psyches of such people, when the chips are down and they have to suffer the results of an election that didn't go their way.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Most voters recognized Trump was bad for the country and the world and a foul human being on top of it all. They only needed a non-scary alternative and would take it. Biden was perceived as that. It really is that simple.

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                @jon-nyc said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                Most voters recognized Trump was bad for the country and the world and a foul human being on top of it all. They only needed a non-scary alternative and would take it. Biden was perceived as that. It really is that simple.

                Then they lied to themselves. There is no way a thinking, rational human couldn't study Biden's behavior for just a few days and not know he was mentally and physically challenged.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  @jon-nyc said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                  Most voters recognized Trump was bad for the country and the world and a foul human being on top of it all. They only needed a non-scary alternative and would take it. Biden was perceived as that. It really is that simple.

                  Anybody who isn't willing to admit how destructive the righteous TDS that overcame the culture was, has no standing to claim a principled stance against things that are bad for the country and the world.

                  If it comes down to something simple, it is an unwillingness or even an inability to hold one's nose and live through a circumstance one finds repulsive, without throwing a temper tantrum. This is why I've called TDS sufferers 'dainty little princesses', because that describes perfectly well the psyches of such people, when the chips are down and they have to suffer the results of an election that didn't go their way.

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                  @horace said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                  This is why I've called TDS sufferers 'dainty little princesses'

                  That is a reasonable thought, but

                  I have always liked dainty little princesses.

                  TDS sufferers are more like, with all due respect, stupid, gutless jerks.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Most voters recognized Trump was bad for the country and the world and a foul human being on top of it all. They only needed a non-scary alternative and would take it. Biden was perceived as that. It really is that simple.

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                    @jon-nyc said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                    Most voters recognized Trump was bad for the country and the world and a foul human being on top of it all. They only needed a non-scary alternative and would take it. Biden was perceived as that. It really is that simple.

                    This. Just like in 2016, in 2020, many people voted AGAINST a candidate rather than FOR a candidate.

                    Obviously people cannot see into the future. That is what elections are for. I am sure that there are people who voted for President Biden that regret that vote. And, I am sure that there are people who voted for President Trump in 2016 who regret that vote.

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                      @jon-nyc said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                      Most voters recognized Trump was bad for the country and the world and a foul human being on top of it all. They only needed a non-scary alternative and would take it. Biden was perceived as that. It really is that simple.

                      Anybody who isn't willing to admit how destructive the righteous TDS that overcame the culture was, has no standing to claim a principled stance against things that are bad for the country and the world.

                      If it comes down to something simple, it is an unwillingness or even an inability to hold one's nose and live through a circumstance one finds repulsive, without throwing a temper tantrum. This is why I've called TDS sufferers 'dainty little princesses', because that describes perfectly well the psyches of such people, when the chips are down and they have to suffer the results of an election that didn't go their way.

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                      @horace said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                      @jon-nyc said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                      Most voters recognized Trump was bad for the country and the world and a foul human being on top of it all. They only needed a non-scary alternative and would take it. Biden was perceived as that. It really is that simple.

                      Anybody who isn't willing to admit how destructive the righteous TDS that overcame the culture was, has no standing to claim a principled stance against things that are bad for the country and the world.

                      If it comes down to something simple, it is an unwillingness or even an inability to hold one's nose and live through a circumstance one finds repulsive, without throwing a temper tantrum. This is why I've called TDS sufferers 'dainty little princesses', because that describes perfectly well the psyches of such people, when the chips are down and they have to suffer the results of an election that didn't go their way.

                      You throw the 'TDS' label around as much as any Woke progressive does the 'R' word. And it has the same dilutive effect on the meaning, at least to the people who aren't True Believers.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @horace said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                        @jon-nyc said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                        Most voters recognized Trump was bad for the country and the world and a foul human being on top of it all. They only needed a non-scary alternative and would take it. Biden was perceived as that. It really is that simple.

                        Anybody who isn't willing to admit how destructive the righteous TDS that overcame the culture was, has no standing to claim a principled stance against things that are bad for the country and the world.

                        If it comes down to something simple, it is an unwillingness or even an inability to hold one's nose and live through a circumstance one finds repulsive, without throwing a temper tantrum. This is why I've called TDS sufferers 'dainty little princesses', because that describes perfectly well the psyches of such people, when the chips are down and they have to suffer the results of an election that didn't go their way.

                        You throw the 'TDS' label around as much as any Woke progressive does the 'R' word. And it has the same dilutive effect on the meaning, at least to the people who aren't True Believers.

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                        @jon-nyc said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                        @horace said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                        @jon-nyc said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                        Most voters recognized Trump was bad for the country and the world and a foul human being on top of it all. They only needed a non-scary alternative and would take it. Biden was perceived as that. It really is that simple.

                        Anybody who isn't willing to admit how destructive the righteous TDS that overcame the culture was, has no standing to claim a principled stance against things that are bad for the country and the world.

                        If it comes down to something simple, it is an unwillingness or even an inability to hold one's nose and live through a circumstance one finds repulsive, without throwing a temper tantrum. This is why I've called TDS sufferers 'dainty little princesses', because that describes perfectly well the psyches of such people, when the chips are down and they have to suffer the results of an election that didn't go their way.

                        You throw the 'TDS' label around as much as any Woke progressive does the 'R' word. And it has the same dilutive effect on the meaning, at least to the people who aren't True Believers.

                        You aren’t in your right mind when it comes to Trump, nor when it comes to the concept of TDS, considering the fact you don’t think you suffer from it, and, as far as I’m aware, have never even admitted it exists as a thing worth talking about.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          It (TDS) exists.

                          It turns otherwise rational people into irrational people. It turns irrational people into slobbering fools.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            @jon-nyc said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                            Most voters recognized Trump was bad for the country and the world and a foul human being on top of it all. They only needed a non-scary alternative and would take it. Biden was perceived as that. It really is that simple.

                            This. Just like in 2016, in 2020, many people voted AGAINST a candidate rather than FOR a candidate.

                            Obviously people cannot see into the future. That is what elections are for. I am sure that there are people who voted for President Biden that regret that vote. And, I am sure that there are people who voted for President Trump in 2016 who regret that vote.

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                            @taiwan_girl said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                            This. Just like in 2016, in 2020, many people voted AGAINST a candidate rather than FOR a candidate.

                            No, not at all. People voted for the vision of America that Trump offered.

                            And which he delivered as best as he could despite constant obstruction and mendacity from the press and the oppositional party.

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                              It seems typical of those voting "against" candidates that they will choose to vote third party. A vote for someone with a chance to win, is a vote for that person no matter how you parse it.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                That's what I did in 2016. I could not support either major party candidate so I went Libertarian.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Most voters recognized Trump was bad for the country and the world and a foul human being on top of it all. They only needed a non-scary alternative and would take it. Biden was perceived as that. It really is that simple.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                                  Most voters recognized Trump was bad for the country and the world and a foul human being on top of it all. They only needed a non-scary alternative and would take it. Biden was perceived as that. It really is that simple.

                                  Donald Trump wasn't "bad for the country" at all. He was the first president since Reagan who represented the people instead of the government. He was a breath of fresh air in a stench filled sewer. Nor was he a "foul human being". The problem is quite simpke: too many people, you included, don't know your ass from your hat.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                                    @horace said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                                    @jon-nyc said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                                    Most voters recognized Trump was bad for the country and the world and a foul human being on top of it all. They only needed a non-scary alternative and would take it. Biden was perceived as that. It really is that simple.

                                    Anybody who isn't willing to admit how destructive the righteous TDS that overcame the culture was, has no standing to claim a principled stance against things that are bad for the country and the world.

                                    If it comes down to something simple, it is an unwillingness or even an inability to hold one's nose and live through a circumstance one finds repulsive, without throwing a temper tantrum. This is why I've called TDS sufferers 'dainty little princesses', because that describes perfectly well the psyches of such people, when the chips are down and they have to suffer the results of an election that didn't go their way.

                                    You throw the 'TDS' label around as much as any Woke progressive does the 'R' word. And it has the same dilutive effect on the meaning, at least to the people who aren't True Believers.

                                    You aren’t in your right mind when it comes to Trump, nor when it comes to the concept of TDS, considering the fact you don’t think you suffer from it, and, as far as I’m aware, have never even admitted it exists as a thing worth talking about.

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                                    @horace said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                                    @jon-nyc said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                                    @horace said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                                    @jon-nyc said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                                    Most voters recognized Trump was bad for the country and the world and a foul human being on top of it all. They only needed a non-scary alternative and would take it. Biden was perceived as that. It really is that simple.

                                    Anybody who isn't willing to admit how destructive the righteous TDS that overcame the culture was, has no standing to claim a principled stance against things that are bad for the country and the world.

                                    If it comes down to something simple, it is an unwillingness or even an inability to hold one's nose and live through a circumstance one finds repulsive, without throwing a temper tantrum. This is why I've called TDS sufferers 'dainty little princesses', because that describes perfectly well the psyches of such people, when the chips are down and they have to suffer the results of an election that didn't go their way.

                                    You throw the 'TDS' label around as much as any Woke progressive does the 'R' word. And it has the same dilutive effect on the meaning, at least to the people who aren't True Believers.

                                    You aren’t in your right mind when it comes to Trump, nor when it comes to the concept of TDS, considering the fact you don’t think you suffer from it, and, as far as I’m aware, have never even admitted it exists as a thing worth talking about.

                                    Where is the line between "not agreeing with Trump's policies" and "not considering Trump a decent human begin" and TDS?

                                    It's rather cheap to dismiss everyone who disagrees with you as suffering from some kind of syndrome.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                                      Most voters recognized Trump was bad for the country and the world and a foul human being on top of it all. They only needed a non-scary alternative and would take it. Biden was perceived as that. It really is that simple.

                                      Donald Trump wasn't "bad for the country" at all. He was the first president since Reagan who represented the people instead of the government. He was a breath of fresh air in a stench filled sewer. Nor was he a "foul human being". The problem is quite simpke: too many people, you included, don't know your ass from your hat.

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                                      @larry said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                                      @jon-nyc said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                                      Most voters recognized Trump was bad for the country and the world and a foul human being on top of it all. They only needed a non-scary alternative and would take it. Biden was perceived as that. It really is that simple.

                                      Donald Trump wasn't "bad for the country" at all. He was the first president since Reagan who represented the people instead of the government. He was a breath of fresh air in a stench filled sewer. Nor was he a "foul human being". The problem is quite simpke: too many people, you included, don't know your ass from your hat.

                                      Trump was a mixed bag, both good and bad. Overall, I would say the good outweighed the bad, but the bad was still there.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Think back over your lifetime about how democrats have portrayed presidents.

                                        Nixon was a TERRIBLE man.
                                        No, he wasn't.

                                        FORD WAS A BUMBLING idiot.
                                        No, he wasn't.

                                        Jimmy Carter was a GENIUS.
                                        No, he wasn't. He was u til Biden, the worst president in history.

                                        Ronald Reagan was a senile old fool who slept a lot and was dumb.
                                        No, he wasn't.

                                        George Bush bad bad bad bad

                                        Bill Clinton was WONDERFUL

                                        George W Bush portrayed as a monkey, a dumb lightweight, etc.

                                        Obama was a GENIUS

                                        Donald Trump - bad for the country. A bad man. Bad, bad, bad, bad, hate, hate, hate....

                                        Joe Biden - Move along, nothing to see here...

                                        Every Republican gets portrayed as "bad for the country". Every democrat is portrayed as a GENIUS, the savior of the world. Democrats like Jon have no credibility when they say someone is "bad for the country". They're like trained monkeys - just repeating the narrative of the day. If Jon was actually concerned with a politician being bad for the country he would be raising immortal he'll over the shit the democrats have in office, like Pelosi, Schumer, AOC, hell.... 99.9% of the idiots in the democrat party are bad for the country. But no, the only ones who he sees as "bad for the country" are anyone Republican.

                                        Like any other run of the mill democrat, Jon doesn't care about who is "bad for the country". It's just a Pavlovian response.

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                                          @horace said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                                          @jon-nyc said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                                          @horace said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                                          @jon-nyc said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                                          Most voters recognized Trump was bad for the country and the world and a foul human being on top of it all. They only needed a non-scary alternative and would take it. Biden was perceived as that. It really is that simple.

                                          Anybody who isn't willing to admit how destructive the righteous TDS that overcame the culture was, has no standing to claim a principled stance against things that are bad for the country and the world.

                                          If it comes down to something simple, it is an unwillingness or even an inability to hold one's nose and live through a circumstance one finds repulsive, without throwing a temper tantrum. This is why I've called TDS sufferers 'dainty little princesses', because that describes perfectly well the psyches of such people, when the chips are down and they have to suffer the results of an election that didn't go their way.

                                          You throw the 'TDS' label around as much as any Woke progressive does the 'R' word. And it has the same dilutive effect on the meaning, at least to the people who aren't True Believers.

                                          You aren’t in your right mind when it comes to Trump, nor when it comes to the concept of TDS, considering the fact you don’t think you suffer from it, and, as far as I’m aware, have never even admitted it exists as a thing worth talking about.

                                          Where is the line between "not agreeing with Trump's policies" and "not considering Trump a decent human begin" and TDS?

                                          It's rather cheap to dismiss everyone who disagrees with you as suffering from some kind of syndrome.

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                                          @klaus said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                                          @horace said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                                          @jon-nyc said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                                          @horace said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                                          @jon-nyc said in Remind me how he got elected?:

                                          Most voters recognized Trump was bad for the country and the world and a foul human being on top of it all. They only needed a non-scary alternative and would take it. Biden was perceived as that. It really is that simple.

                                          Anybody who isn't willing to admit how destructive the righteous TDS that overcame the culture was, has no standing to claim a principled stance against things that are bad for the country and the world.

                                          If it comes down to something simple, it is an unwillingness or even an inability to hold one's nose and live through a circumstance one finds repulsive, without throwing a temper tantrum. This is why I've called TDS sufferers 'dainty little princesses', because that describes perfectly well the psyches of such people, when the chips are down and they have to suffer the results of an election that didn't go their way.

                                          You throw the 'TDS' label around as much as any Woke progressive does the 'R' word. And it has the same dilutive effect on the meaning, at least to the people who aren't True Believers.

                                          You aren’t in your right mind when it comes to Trump, nor when it comes to the concept of TDS, considering the fact you don’t think you suffer from it, and, as far as I’m aware, have never even admitted it exists as a thing worth talking about.

                                          Where is the line between "not agreeing with Trump's policies" and "not considering Trump a decent human begin" and TDS?

                                          It's rather cheap to dismiss everyone who disagrees with you as suffering from some kind of syndrome.

                                          But I don't do that. For instance, let's consider January 6. Let's consider those who think of it as an insurrection. I mean, don't listen to me, listen to them. What do they call it? Do they imagine a mastermind of a coup attempt, manipulating useful idiot soldiers? Just ask them, that is all I ask. What do they say, on the off chance they are willing to say anything?

                                          They won't say anything, they will only relentlessly call people Trumpists and Insurrectionists. Then they will retreat to their objective place where they have no political skin in the game.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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