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What kinds of deals often involve under the table money in your place?

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    Mik
    wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 16:39 last edited by
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    In just about any transaction you can imagine. Contracts, justice, anything.

    'What kind of ________ do you think I am?"

    "We've already established that. We're just haggling over price.".

    The unmarked envelope of cash is still a welcome offering, albeit done more stealthily.

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      Jolly
      wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 17:19 last edited by
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      I would never pay cash for anything.😉

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Klaus
        wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 17:34 last edited by
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        I'm not asking about paying cash. I'm asking about tax avoidance.

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          xenon
          wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 17:36 last edited by xenon
          #11

          I use "paying in cash" as a euphemism for the same thing, Klaus. I don't really know how the folks are filing their taxes - but I'm assuming some under-report it.

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            Klaus
            wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 17:43 last edited by
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            For instance, I wonder how often @LuFins-Dad is approached with the idea of saving money on a sale by splitting the bill into an official and inofficial part.

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              Mik
              wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 18:18 last edited by
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              I have a family member who rails on about taxing the rich and all their various tax devices. But he has worked in a cash business his whole career and I doubt he has reported half his income.

              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                Horace
                wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 18:53 last edited by
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                I have a guy doing some handyman work on my house just today who will be paid cash. 3 days skilled labor for $1200.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 20:42 last edited by
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                  That's a great deal.

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                  • K Klaus
                    17 Dec 2021, 17:43

                    For instance, I wonder how often @LuFins-Dad is approached with the idea of saving money on a sale by splitting the bill into an official and inofficial part.

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 21:50 last edited by
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                    @klaus said in What kinds of deals often involve under the table money in your place?:

                    For instance, I wonder how often @LuFins-Dad is approached with the idea of saving money on a sale by splitting the bill into an official and inofficial part.

                    Nothing like that. I did have a guy once try to offer me a "tip" after a negotiated sale price. I added it to the price of the piano.

                    The Brad

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                      Rich
                      wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 21:53 last edited by
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                      On the piano moving end of my business (which has become fairly substantial) we get quite a few people looking to pay in cash....for some sort of discount.

                      Though I know what they're really after, I'll occasionally offer about a 2.5% discount, since that what the card processing fee would average out to.

                      At this point, many if not most of the folks looking for a cash discount, actually have a stack of cash themselves they are looking to use up...so there's really no benefit to discount at all for cash.

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                      • M Mik
                        17 Dec 2021, 20:42

                        That's a great deal.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 22:04 last edited by
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                        @mik said in What kinds of deals often involve under the table money in your place?:

                        That's a great deal.

                        My wife found him through some referrals by Chinese friends in the area. He's not great with the English but he can do everything, including plumbing.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          17 Dec 2021, 21:53

                          On the piano moving end of my business (which has become fairly substantial) we get quite a few people looking to pay in cash....for some sort of discount.

                          Though I know what they're really after, I'll occasionally offer about a 2.5% discount, since that what the card processing fee would average out to.

                          At this point, many if not most of the folks looking for a cash discount, actually have a stack of cash themselves they are looking to use up...so there's really no benefit to discount at all for cash.

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                          Copper
                          wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 22:17 last edited by Copper
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                          @rich said in What kinds of deals often involve under the table money in your place?:

                          actually have a stack of cash themselves they are looking to use up...so there's really no benefit to discount at all for cash.

                          Can't you scrape off the cocaine?

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