UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic

George K · wrote on 15 Dec 2021, 20:11

And both countries have a higher vaccination rate than the UK.

Jolly · 15 Dec 2021, 20:42

It's all those damned vaxxed people!

Renauda · 15 Dec 2021, 20:34

I don’t think it’s as simple as vaxxed or unvaxxed this time round. In some ways we’re back to square one albeit we’re more experienced than when the first two waves hit. Will have to see how this plays out with our health care systems. Mild or severe it’s going to be all about numbers.

Received my third Pfizer shot last Saturday. Regardless, I fully expect to be infected this time round given the infectiousness of this particular mutation.

Doctor Phibes · wrote on 15 Dec 2021, 20:34

@renauda said in UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic:

I don’t think it’s as simple as vaxxed or unvaxxed this time round. In some ways we’re back to square one albeit we’re more experienced than when the first two waves hit. Will have to see how this plays out with our health care systems. Mild or severe it’s going to be all about numbers.

Received my third Pfizer shot last Saturday. Regardless, I fully expect to be infected this time round given the infectious of this particular mutation.

I'm just hoping that being vaccinated reduces the severity of the illness, as appears to be case until now. That should hopefully reduce the chances of the health systems becoming overwhelmed.

My nephew's just tested positive - he already had it last summer, and now he's got it again, although the symptoms seem pretty mild.

Doctor Phibes · 15 Dec 2021, 21:38

@jolly said in UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic:

It's all those damned vaxxed people!

Getting vaccinated is what we'd call in my work 'due diligence'. There's no guarantee of safety, but you're doing what you can to reduce the risk to yourself and others.

Political point-scoring and posturing aside, I haven't seen a single reasonable argument against getting vaccinated for those who are able to.

This isn't rocket science. It's not even political science.

Copper · 15 Dec 2021, 21:59

@doctor-phibes said in UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic:

I haven't seen a single reasonable argument against getting vaccinated

Of course not

Showing a single reasonable argument against getting vaccinated is forbidden

Doctor Phibes · 15 Dec 2021, 22:01

@copper said in UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic:

@doctor-phibes said in UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic:

I haven't seen a single reasonable argument against getting vaccinated

Of course not

Showing a single reasonable argument against getting vaccinated is forbidden

Well can you think of one?

Copper · 15 Dec 2021, 22:42

@doctor-phibes said in UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic:

@copper said in UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic:

@doctor-phibes said in UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic:

I haven't seen a single reasonable argument against getting vaccinated

Of course not

Showing a single reasonable argument against getting vaccinated is forbidden

Well can you think of one?

No, but I can google

CDC has some reasons: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/essentialworker/workplace-vaccination-program.html

But CDC isn't very trustworthy

Renauda · C Copper 15 Dec 2021, 22:01

No but I can Google

CDC has some reasons: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/essentialworker/workplace-vaccination-program.html

But CDC isn't very trustworthy

Nor is much else that a person can apparently Google on the subject.

Jolly · 15 Dec 2021, 23:29

@doctor-phibes said in UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic:

@copper said in UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic:

@doctor-phibes said in UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic:

I haven't seen a single reasonable argument against getting vaccinated

Of course not

Showing a single reasonable argument against getting vaccinated is forbidden

Well can you think of one?

Cardiac arrest comes to mind.

Renauda · 16 Dec 2021, 02:13

Tell us you didn’t Google that.

Doctor Phibes · 16 Dec 2021, 00:12

@jolly said in UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic:

@doctor-phibes said in UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic:

@copper said in UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic:

@doctor-phibes said in UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic:

I haven't seen a single reasonable argument against getting vaccinated

Of course not

Showing a single reasonable argument against getting vaccinated is forbidden

Well can you think of one?

Cardiac arrest comes to mind.

That’s like saying don’t shelter in your basement during a tornado in case you get carbon monoxide poisoning

Renauda · wrote on 16 Dec 2021, 00:12

@doctor-phibes

Not to mention radon gas in basements. Huge around these parts - well at least a huge money maker.

Jolly · 16 Dec 2021, 03:35

@renauda said in UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic:

Tell us you didn’t Google that.

Didn't have to. Tachycardia, A-fib and blood clots are side effects of the vaccine.

Doctor Phibes · 16 Dec 2021, 04:12

@jolly said in UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic:

@renauda said in UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic:

Tell us you didn’t Google that.

Didn't have to. Tachycardia, A-fib and blood clots are side effects of the vaccine.

Yeah, but not exactly a good reason to stay unvaccinated.

I realise this has become heavily politicised, but it really shouldn't be. There's no good reason that I'm aware of not to get the shot. Both my kids are vaccinated, as are both their parents.

Doctor Phibes · wrote on 16 Dec 2021, 03:44

You know what all the people posting comparisons with WW2 should note?

How fucking stupid we've become.

Anybody who compares the holocaust with wearing a mask shouldn't be allowed out on their own.

Anybody who spends hours of their day trying to undermine efforts to vaccinate the population is either an imbecile, or an arsehole. Quite possibly both.

800,000 dead Americans, and we're worrying about the vaccine?

It's not the vaccine that's killing people.

Jolly · 16 Dec 2021, 12:51

@doctor-phibes said in UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic:

@jolly said in UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic:

@renauda said in UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic:

Tell us you didn’t Google that.

Didn't have to. Tachycardia, A-fib and blood clots are side effects of the vaccine.

Yeah, but not exactly a good reason to stay unvaccinated.

I realise this has become heavily politicised, but it really shouldn't be. There's no good reason that I'm aware of not to get the shot. Both my kids are vaccinated, as are both their parents.

There's quite a few good reasons not to get vaxxed, usually revolving around vaccine side effects or religious exemptions. And as Omicron is proving, being vaxxed is not preventing people from catching the disease or passing it on. It does look like being vaxxed can reduce the severity of symptoms in the latest variant, which is a good thing.

But right now, I think I heard we are approaching 2000 variations of the virus, albeit most of them not very different. As time passes, there will be many, many more variants. We could be literally taking boosters every thirty days.

At what time do we quit ostracizing people for not taking the vaccine?

Renauda · J Jolly 16 Dec 2021, 02:13

@jolly said in UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic:

@renauda said in UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic:

Tell us you didn’t Google that.

Didn't have to. Tachycardia, A-fib and blood clots are side effects of the vaccine.

Yes, I’ve heard that. I’ve also heard that in some cases there are no known side effects. My three shots made me want to take afternoon naps.

I don’t usually like to nap in the daytime.

bachophile · 16 Dec 2021, 12:31

Quite honestly I’ve become nihilistic and without empathy.

No vaxx? I hope the regret you feel in the ICU won’t be too unbearable.

And by the way, I really don’t know of any substantiated case of people dropping dead after a vaccination. From the amount I read on Twitter, it’s a miracle any of us are still alive. Almost a pandemic of sudden deaths.

George K · wrote on 16 Dec 2021, 12:31

@bachophile said in UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic:

I really don’t know of any substantiated case of people dropping dead after a vaccination.

Indeed. However, I believe it was Japan that instituted a warning for the Pfizer vaccine regarding an increased risk of myocarditis.

In the context of lives saved, I'd say it's a minuscule difference.

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UK has highest number of Covid cases in a day since the start of the pandemic