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Smoke 'em if you got 'em

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  • George KG George K

    @doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

    It’s not really the same tactic. They’re not banning it for older people, just people who’ve never had the opportunity.

    I totally understand the difference. But, in 20 years, when the "older" people are no longer around to smoke them, it will be precisely prohibition.

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    Doctor Phibes
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    #21

    @george-k said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

    @doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

    It’s not really the same tactic. They’re not banning it for older people, just people who’ve never had the opportunity.

    I totally understand the difference. But, in 20 years, when the "older" people are no longer around to smoke them, it will be precisely prohibition.

    It’s interesting. I asked my kids about it and they said hardly anybody smokes tobacco that they know. Quite a few smoke weed, but not cigarettes. Now we’re talking nice middle class neighborhood, so maybe not representative.

    When they banned smoking in British pubs a lot of us couldn’t imagine going in any more, but it’s a distant memory, and way, way nicer now. I went to an “Irish”pub in the US a few years back where everybody smoked, and it was really quite horrible.

    I was only joking

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      Copper
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      #22

      It is hard to imagine how great it was

      In college, we smoked in class, nobody complained

      At work we smoked in crowded meetings, nobody complained

      At restaurants, airplanes and hospitals, go ahead, have a smoke

      Our children will never know that freedom

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      • CopperC Copper

        It is hard to imagine how great it was

        In college, we smoked in class, nobody complained

        At work we smoked in crowded meetings, nobody complained

        At restaurants, airplanes and hospitals, go ahead, have a smoke

        Our children will never know that freedom

        Doctor PhibesD Online
        Doctor PhibesD Online
        Doctor Phibes
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        #23

        @copper said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

        It is hard to imagine how great it was

        In college, we smoked in class, nobody complained

        At work we smoked in crowded meetings, nobody complained

        At restaurants, airplanes and hospitals, go ahead, have a smoke

        Our children will never know that freedom

        Lung cancer is a horrible way to die. I had a friend who died a couple of years ago after smoking his whole life. He was younger than I am and left behind two teenage kids.

        I was only joking

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        • CopperC Offline
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          Copper
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          #24

          The cigarettes got my father at age 73 with COPD

          My 92 year old mother is still smoking, she is fine, her father smoked until age 98, no problem

          Like most things, smoking cigarettes doesn't guarantee anything

          Neither does whisky, let's hope the wokes never get ahold of alcohol again, wishful thinking I know.

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            #25

            It's coming. Get ready.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • Doctor PhibesD Online
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              Doctor Phibes
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              #26

              What's been done to cigarettes is hardly a result of woke thinking - that's just revisionist. Blame something you don't approve of on wokeness.

              You'll be going on about crash helmets, drink driving and seat-belts next. Not forgetting health and safety legislation in the workplace, of course!

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @george-k said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                @doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                It’s not really the same tactic. They’re not banning it for older people, just people who’ve never had the opportunity.

                I totally understand the difference. But, in 20 years, when the "older" people are no longer around to smoke them, it will be precisely prohibition.

                It’s interesting. I asked my kids about it and they said hardly anybody smokes tobacco that they know. Quite a few smoke weed, but not cigarettes. Now we’re talking nice middle class neighborhood, so maybe not representative.

                When they banned smoking in British pubs a lot of us couldn’t imagine going in any more, but it’s a distant memory, and way, way nicer now. I went to an “Irish”pub in the US a few years back where everybody smoked, and it was really quite horrible.

                jon-nycJ Offline
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                jon-nyc
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                #27

                @doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                @george-k said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                @doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                It’s not really the same tactic. They’re not banning it for older people, just people who’ve never had the opportunity.

                I totally understand the difference. But, in 20 years, when the "older" people are no longer around to smoke them, it will be precisely prohibition.

                It’s interesting. I asked my kids about it and they said hardly anybody smokes tobacco that they know. Quite a few smoke weed, but not cigarettes. Now we’re talking nice middle class neighborhood, so maybe not representative.

                Now ask them how many of their friends vape.

                When they banned smoking in British pubs a lot of us couldn’t imagine going in any more, but it’s a distant memory, and way, way nicer now. I went to an “Irish”pub in the US a few years back where everybody smoked, and it was really quite horrible.

                WTF dude you were living in MA when that happened. I was spending every other week there.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                  @george-k said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                  @doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                  It’s not really the same tactic. They’re not banning it for older people, just people who’ve never had the opportunity.

                  I totally understand the difference. But, in 20 years, when the "older" people are no longer around to smoke them, it will be precisely prohibition.

                  It’s interesting. I asked my kids about it and they said hardly anybody smokes tobacco that they know. Quite a few smoke weed, but not cigarettes. Now we’re talking nice middle class neighborhood, so maybe not representative.

                  Now ask them how many of their friends vape.

                  When they banned smoking in British pubs a lot of us couldn’t imagine going in any more, but it’s a distant memory, and way, way nicer now. I went to an “Irish”pub in the US a few years back where everybody smoked, and it was really quite horrible.

                  WTF dude you were living in MA when that happened. I was spending every other week there.

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  #28

                  @jon-nyc said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                  @doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                  @george-k said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                  @doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                  It’s not really the same tactic. They’re not banning it for older people, just people who’ve never had the opportunity.

                  I totally understand the difference. But, in 20 years, when the "older" people are no longer around to smoke them, it will be precisely prohibition.

                  It’s interesting. I asked my kids about it and they said hardly anybody smokes tobacco that they know. Quite a few smoke weed, but not cigarettes. Now we’re talking nice middle class neighborhood, so maybe not representative.

                  Now ask them how many of their friends vape.

                  When they banned smoking in British pubs a lot of us couldn’t imagine going in any more, but it’s a distant memory, and way, way nicer now. I went to an “Irish”pub in the US a few years back where everybody smoked, and it was really quite horrible.

                  WTF dude you were living in MA when that happened. I was spending every other week there.

                  I imagine the initial whining was unbearable. I was really surprised how nice the pubs were when I went back.

                  The tobacco lobby is blaming the ban for the decline of pubs, but I don’t buy it. I suspect the availability of cheap beer for home use has much more to do with it.

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    What's been done to cigarettes is hardly a result of woke thinking - that's just revisionist. Blame something you don't approve of on wokeness.

                    You'll be going on about crash helmets, drink driving and seat-belts next. Not forgetting health and safety legislation in the workplace, of course!

                    CopperC Offline
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                    Copper
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                    #29

                    @doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                    What's been done to cigarettes is hardly a result of woke thinking - that's just revisionist. Blame something you don't approve of on wokeness.

                    You'll be going on about crash helmets, drink driving and seat-belts next. Not forgetting health and safety legislation in the workplace, of course!

                    Sure, I will be going on about all of them.

                    But I wouldn't take them all on at once, maybe later.

                    As you point out, they really do all have the same foundation, some caring soul wants me to be happy.
                    And they are kind enough to show me how.

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                    • CopperC Copper

                      @doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                      What's been done to cigarettes is hardly a result of woke thinking - that's just revisionist. Blame something you don't approve of on wokeness.

                      You'll be going on about crash helmets, drink driving and seat-belts next. Not forgetting health and safety legislation in the workplace, of course!

                      Sure, I will be going on about all of them.

                      But I wouldn't take them all on at once, maybe later.

                      As you point out, they really do all have the same foundation, some caring soul wants me to be happy.
                      And they are kind enough to show me how.

                      Doctor PhibesD Online
                      Doctor PhibesD Online
                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                      #30

                      @copper said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                      @doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                      What's been done to cigarettes is hardly a result of woke thinking - that's just revisionist. Blame something you don't approve of on wokeness.

                      You'll be going on about crash helmets, drink driving and seat-belts next. Not forgetting health and safety legislation in the workplace, of course!

                      Sure, I will be going on about all of them.

                      But I wouldn't take them all on at once, maybe later.

                      As you point out, they really do all have the same foundation, some caring soul wants me to be happy.
                      And they are kind enough to show me how.

                      No, safety in the workplace is designed to stop you from killing the people who work for you. We don’t care whether you’re happy.

                      Similarly, seatbelts are to allow you not to die horribly and to protect your children from being ejected from the car.

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        @copper said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                        @doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                        What's been done to cigarettes is hardly a result of woke thinking - that's just revisionist. Blame something you don't approve of on wokeness.

                        You'll be going on about crash helmets, drink driving and seat-belts next. Not forgetting health and safety legislation in the workplace, of course!

                        Sure, I will be going on about all of them.

                        But I wouldn't take them all on at once, maybe later.

                        As you point out, they really do all have the same foundation, some caring soul wants me to be happy.
                        And they are kind enough to show me how.

                        No, safety in the workplace is designed to stop you from killing the people who work for you. We don’t care whether you’re happy.

                        Similarly, seatbelts are to allow you not to die horribly and to protect your children from being ejected from the car.

                        CopperC Offline
                        CopperC Offline
                        Copper
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                        #31

                        @doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                        @copper said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                        @doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                        What's been done to cigarettes is hardly a result of woke thinking - that's just revisionist. Blame something you don't approve of on wokeness.

                        You'll be going on about crash helmets, drink driving and seat-belts next. Not forgetting health and safety legislation in the workplace, of course!

                        Sure, I will be going on about all of them.

                        But I wouldn't take them all on at once, maybe later.

                        As you point out, they really do all have the same foundation, some caring soul wants me to be happy.
                        And they are kind enough to show me how.

                        No, safety in the workplace is designed to stop you from killing the people who work for you. We don’t care whether you’re happy.

                        Similarly, seatbelts are to allow you not to die horribly and to protect your children from being ejected from the car.

                        There are reasonable people who disagree.

                        I understand it is absolutely, positively, without question impossible to understand that.

                        These reasonable people must be insulted, yes, of course.

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                          Almost every smoker person that I have talked to is in favor of the restrictions on smoking in indoor public places. They realize now bad their clothes, hair etc smelled.

                          I was in the small town of Obenovac Serbia a long number of years ago, and I went to see a basketball game and they allowed smoking by the spectators. I though it was kind of funny. Kind of like the picture Copper showed. Althletes competing but breathing in cigarette smoke.

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                          • CopperC Copper

                            @doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                            @copper said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                            @doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                            What's been done to cigarettes is hardly a result of woke thinking - that's just revisionist. Blame something you don't approve of on wokeness.

                            You'll be going on about crash helmets, drink driving and seat-belts next. Not forgetting health and safety legislation in the workplace, of course!

                            Sure, I will be going on about all of them.

                            But I wouldn't take them all on at once, maybe later.

                            As you point out, they really do all have the same foundation, some caring soul wants me to be happy.
                            And they are kind enough to show me how.

                            No, safety in the workplace is designed to stop you from killing the people who work for you. We don’t care whether you’re happy.

                            Similarly, seatbelts are to allow you not to die horribly and to protect your children from being ejected from the car.

                            There are reasonable people who disagree.

                            I understand it is absolutely, positively, without question impossible to understand that.

                            These reasonable people must be insulted, yes, of course.

                            Doctor PhibesD Online
                            Doctor PhibesD Online
                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #33

                            @copper said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:

                            There are reasonable people who disagree.

                            Yeah, there are a ton of reasonable people out there who think that health and safety in the workplace is a bad idea, as is wearing a safety belt. They're everywhere.

                            I was only joking

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