Smoke 'em if you got 'em
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@doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
It’s not really the same tactic. They’re not banning it for older people, just people who’ve never had the opportunity.
I totally understand the difference. But, in 20 years, when the "older" people are no longer around to smoke them, it will be precisely prohibition.
wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 20:47 last edited by Doctor Phibes@george-k said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
@doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
It’s not really the same tactic. They’re not banning it for older people, just people who’ve never had the opportunity.
I totally understand the difference. But, in 20 years, when the "older" people are no longer around to smoke them, it will be precisely prohibition.
It’s interesting. I asked my kids about it and they said hardly anybody smokes tobacco that they know. Quite a few smoke weed, but not cigarettes. Now we’re talking nice middle class neighborhood, so maybe not representative.
When they banned smoking in British pubs a lot of us couldn’t imagine going in any more, but it’s a distant memory, and way, way nicer now. I went to an “Irish”pub in the US a few years back where everybody smoked, and it was really quite horrible.
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wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 20:50 last edited by
It is hard to imagine how great it was
In college, we smoked in class, nobody complained
At work we smoked in crowded meetings, nobody complained
At restaurants, airplanes and hospitals, go ahead, have a smoke
Our children will never know that freedom
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It is hard to imagine how great it was
In college, we smoked in class, nobody complained
At work we smoked in crowded meetings, nobody complained
At restaurants, airplanes and hospitals, go ahead, have a smoke
Our children will never know that freedom
wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 21:41 last edited by Doctor Phibes@copper said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
It is hard to imagine how great it was
In college, we smoked in class, nobody complained
At work we smoked in crowded meetings, nobody complained
At restaurants, airplanes and hospitals, go ahead, have a smoke
Our children will never know that freedom
Lung cancer is a horrible way to die. I had a friend who died a couple of years ago after smoking his whole life. He was younger than I am and left behind two teenage kids.
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wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 22:10 last edited by
The cigarettes got my father at age 73 with COPD
My 92 year old mother is still smoking, she is fine, her father smoked until age 98, no problem
Like most things, smoking cigarettes doesn't guarantee anything
Neither does whisky, let's hope the wokes never get ahold of alcohol again, wishful thinking I know.
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wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 22:25 last edited by
It's coming. Get ready.
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wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 22:29 last edited by Doctor Phibes
What's been done to cigarettes is hardly a result of woke thinking - that's just revisionist. Blame something you don't approve of on wokeness.
You'll be going on about crash helmets, drink driving and seat-belts next. Not forgetting health and safety legislation in the workplace, of course!
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@george-k said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
@doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
It’s not really the same tactic. They’re not banning it for older people, just people who’ve never had the opportunity.
I totally understand the difference. But, in 20 years, when the "older" people are no longer around to smoke them, it will be precisely prohibition.
It’s interesting. I asked my kids about it and they said hardly anybody smokes tobacco that they know. Quite a few smoke weed, but not cigarettes. Now we’re talking nice middle class neighborhood, so maybe not representative.
When they banned smoking in British pubs a lot of us couldn’t imagine going in any more, but it’s a distant memory, and way, way nicer now. I went to an “Irish”pub in the US a few years back where everybody smoked, and it was really quite horrible.
wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 22:37 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
@george-k said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
@doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
It’s not really the same tactic. They’re not banning it for older people, just people who’ve never had the opportunity.
I totally understand the difference. But, in 20 years, when the "older" people are no longer around to smoke them, it will be precisely prohibition.
It’s interesting. I asked my kids about it and they said hardly anybody smokes tobacco that they know. Quite a few smoke weed, but not cigarettes. Now we’re talking nice middle class neighborhood, so maybe not representative.
Now ask them how many of their friends vape.
When they banned smoking in British pubs a lot of us couldn’t imagine going in any more, but it’s a distant memory, and way, way nicer now. I went to an “Irish”pub in the US a few years back where everybody smoked, and it was really quite horrible.
WTF dude you were living in MA when that happened. I was spending every other week there.
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@doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
@george-k said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
@doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
It’s not really the same tactic. They’re not banning it for older people, just people who’ve never had the opportunity.
I totally understand the difference. But, in 20 years, when the "older" people are no longer around to smoke them, it will be precisely prohibition.
It’s interesting. I asked my kids about it and they said hardly anybody smokes tobacco that they know. Quite a few smoke weed, but not cigarettes. Now we’re talking nice middle class neighborhood, so maybe not representative.
Now ask them how many of their friends vape.
When they banned smoking in British pubs a lot of us couldn’t imagine going in any more, but it’s a distant memory, and way, way nicer now. I went to an “Irish”pub in the US a few years back where everybody smoked, and it was really quite horrible.
WTF dude you were living in MA when that happened. I was spending every other week there.
wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 23:16 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
@doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
@george-k said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
@doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
It’s not really the same tactic. They’re not banning it for older people, just people who’ve never had the opportunity.
I totally understand the difference. But, in 20 years, when the "older" people are no longer around to smoke them, it will be precisely prohibition.
It’s interesting. I asked my kids about it and they said hardly anybody smokes tobacco that they know. Quite a few smoke weed, but not cigarettes. Now we’re talking nice middle class neighborhood, so maybe not representative.
Now ask them how many of their friends vape.
When they banned smoking in British pubs a lot of us couldn’t imagine going in any more, but it’s a distant memory, and way, way nicer now. I went to an “Irish”pub in the US a few years back where everybody smoked, and it was really quite horrible.
WTF dude you were living in MA when that happened. I was spending every other week there.
I imagine the initial whining was unbearable. I was really surprised how nice the pubs were when I went back.
The tobacco lobby is blaming the ban for the decline of pubs, but I don’t buy it. I suspect the availability of cheap beer for home use has much more to do with it.
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What's been done to cigarettes is hardly a result of woke thinking - that's just revisionist. Blame something you don't approve of on wokeness.
You'll be going on about crash helmets, drink driving and seat-belts next. Not forgetting health and safety legislation in the workplace, of course!
wrote on 17 Dec 2021, 23:50 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
What's been done to cigarettes is hardly a result of woke thinking - that's just revisionist. Blame something you don't approve of on wokeness.
You'll be going on about crash helmets, drink driving and seat-belts next. Not forgetting health and safety legislation in the workplace, of course!
Sure, I will be going on about all of them.
But I wouldn't take them all on at once, maybe later.
As you point out, they really do all have the same foundation, some caring soul wants me to be happy.
And they are kind enough to show me how. -
@doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
What's been done to cigarettes is hardly a result of woke thinking - that's just revisionist. Blame something you don't approve of on wokeness.
You'll be going on about crash helmets, drink driving and seat-belts next. Not forgetting health and safety legislation in the workplace, of course!
Sure, I will be going on about all of them.
But I wouldn't take them all on at once, maybe later.
As you point out, they really do all have the same foundation, some caring soul wants me to be happy.
And they are kind enough to show me how.wrote on 18 Dec 2021, 00:31 last edited by Doctor Phibes@copper said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
@doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
What's been done to cigarettes is hardly a result of woke thinking - that's just revisionist. Blame something you don't approve of on wokeness.
You'll be going on about crash helmets, drink driving and seat-belts next. Not forgetting health and safety legislation in the workplace, of course!
Sure, I will be going on about all of them.
But I wouldn't take them all on at once, maybe later.
As you point out, they really do all have the same foundation, some caring soul wants me to be happy.
And they are kind enough to show me how.No, safety in the workplace is designed to stop you from killing the people who work for you. We don’t care whether you’re happy.
Similarly, seatbelts are to allow you not to die horribly and to protect your children from being ejected from the car.
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@copper said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
@doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
What's been done to cigarettes is hardly a result of woke thinking - that's just revisionist. Blame something you don't approve of on wokeness.
You'll be going on about crash helmets, drink driving and seat-belts next. Not forgetting health and safety legislation in the workplace, of course!
Sure, I will be going on about all of them.
But I wouldn't take them all on at once, maybe later.
As you point out, they really do all have the same foundation, some caring soul wants me to be happy.
And they are kind enough to show me how.No, safety in the workplace is designed to stop you from killing the people who work for you. We don’t care whether you’re happy.
Similarly, seatbelts are to allow you not to die horribly and to protect your children from being ejected from the car.
wrote on 18 Dec 2021, 01:56 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
@copper said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
@doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
What's been done to cigarettes is hardly a result of woke thinking - that's just revisionist. Blame something you don't approve of on wokeness.
You'll be going on about crash helmets, drink driving and seat-belts next. Not forgetting health and safety legislation in the workplace, of course!
Sure, I will be going on about all of them.
But I wouldn't take them all on at once, maybe later.
As you point out, they really do all have the same foundation, some caring soul wants me to be happy.
And they are kind enough to show me how.No, safety in the workplace is designed to stop you from killing the people who work for you. We don’t care whether you’re happy.
Similarly, seatbelts are to allow you not to die horribly and to protect your children from being ejected from the car.
There are reasonable people who disagree.
I understand it is absolutely, positively, without question impossible to understand that.
These reasonable people must be insulted, yes, of course.
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wrote on 19 Dec 2021, 03:51 last edited by
Almost every smoker person that I have talked to is in favor of the restrictions on smoking in indoor public places. They realize now bad their clothes, hair etc smelled.
I was in the small town of Obenovac Serbia a long number of years ago, and I went to see a basketball game and they allowed smoking by the spectators. I though it was kind of funny. Kind of like the picture Copper showed. Althletes competing but breathing in cigarette smoke.
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@doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
@copper said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
@doctor-phibes said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
What's been done to cigarettes is hardly a result of woke thinking - that's just revisionist. Blame something you don't approve of on wokeness.
You'll be going on about crash helmets, drink driving and seat-belts next. Not forgetting health and safety legislation in the workplace, of course!
Sure, I will be going on about all of them.
But I wouldn't take them all on at once, maybe later.
As you point out, they really do all have the same foundation, some caring soul wants me to be happy.
And they are kind enough to show me how.No, safety in the workplace is designed to stop you from killing the people who work for you. We don’t care whether you’re happy.
Similarly, seatbelts are to allow you not to die horribly and to protect your children from being ejected from the car.
There are reasonable people who disagree.
I understand it is absolutely, positively, without question impossible to understand that.
These reasonable people must be insulted, yes, of course.
wrote on 19 Dec 2021, 04:00 last edited by@copper said in Smoke 'em if you got 'em:
There are reasonable people who disagree.
Yeah, there are a ton of reasonable people out there who think that health and safety in the workplace is a bad idea, as is wearing a safety belt. They're everywhere.