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French or Latin?

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    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on 7 Dec 2021, 19:40 last edited by
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    @doctor-phibes said in French or Latin?:

    I'd learn French, no question. When we travelled in Europe, anybody who didn't speak English would generally be able to understand French.

    You can learn to speak French, but you only really study Latin.

    This.

    If you want to be an insufferable grammar Nazi, though, study Anglo-Saxon, Old English, and Middle English. Latin helps you with scientific nomenclature, but boy oh boy does it lead you astray with English grammar.

    Please love yourself.

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    • A Aqua Letifer
      7 Dec 2021, 19:40

      @doctor-phibes said in French or Latin?:

      I'd learn French, no question. When we travelled in Europe, anybody who didn't speak English would generally be able to understand French.

      You can learn to speak French, but you only really study Latin.

      This.

      If you want to be an insufferable grammar Nazi, though, study Anglo-Saxon, Old English, and Middle English. Latin helps you with scientific nomenclature, but boy oh boy does it lead you astray with English grammar.

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 7 Dec 2021, 20:07 last edited by
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      @aqua-letifer said in French or Latin?:

      @doctor-phibes said in French or Latin?:

      I'd learn French, no question. When we travelled in Europe, anybody who didn't speak English would generally be able to understand French.

      You can learn to speak French, but you only really study Latin.

      This.

      If you want to be an insufferable grammar Nazi, though, study Anglo-Saxon, Old English, and Middle English. Latin helps you with scientific nomenclature, but boy oh boy does it lead you astray with English grammar.

      I'm not totally convinced that telling people they can be grammar Nazi's is going to be a big selling point in Germany.

      I was only joking

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      • D Doctor Phibes
        7 Dec 2021, 20:07

        @aqua-letifer said in French or Latin?:

        @doctor-phibes said in French or Latin?:

        I'd learn French, no question. When we travelled in Europe, anybody who didn't speak English would generally be able to understand French.

        You can learn to speak French, but you only really study Latin.

        This.

        If you want to be an insufferable grammar Nazi, though, study Anglo-Saxon, Old English, and Middle English. Latin helps you with scientific nomenclature, but boy oh boy does it lead you astray with English grammar.

        I'm not totally convinced that telling people they can be grammar Nazi's is going to be a big selling point in Germany.

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        George K
        wrote on 7 Dec 2021, 20:11 last edited by
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        @doctor-phibes said in French or Latin?:

        I'm not totally convinced that telling people they can be grammar Nazi's is going to be a big selling point in Germany.

        Cough....

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • K Klaus
          7 Dec 2021, 17:54

          I learned Latin when I was at school. I'm not good at languages and I have forgotten most of what I learned at the time, but I think I would choose Latin again.

          The reason is not so much that it is practical, or that is the root of many Western languages. The reason is that it represents Western culture like few other things. All the things that are currently under attack by the woke left - Latin is a symbol for that. I'd learn it as a middle finger gesture towards those people.

          I also find Latin useful as a tool to understand things better. Knowing the original roots and meaning of a word often helps to understand the deeper meaning of a concept.

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          Copper
          wrote on 7 Dec 2021, 20:14 last edited by
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          @klaus said in French or Latin?:

          I also find Latin useful as a tool to understand things better. Knowing the original roots and meaning of a word often helps to understand the deeper meaning of a concept.

          Yes

          And as GK said, I had Latin in high school and still remember a lot of it. I regularly see word and notice a Latin root.

          I studied French and Spanish too, but don't notice them very much day-to-day, except when I am in southern Florida.

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            Copper
            wrote on 7 Dec 2021, 20:15 last edited by
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            • D Doctor Phibes
              7 Dec 2021, 20:07

              @aqua-letifer said in French or Latin?:

              @doctor-phibes said in French or Latin?:

              I'd learn French, no question. When we travelled in Europe, anybody who didn't speak English would generally be able to understand French.

              You can learn to speak French, but you only really study Latin.

              This.

              If you want to be an insufferable grammar Nazi, though, study Anglo-Saxon, Old English, and Middle English. Latin helps you with scientific nomenclature, but boy oh boy does it lead you astray with English grammar.

              I'm not totally convinced that telling people they can be grammar Nazi's is going to be a big selling point in Germany.

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on 7 Dec 2021, 20:55 last edited by
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              @doctor-phibes said in French or Latin?:

              @aqua-letifer said in French or Latin?:

              @doctor-phibes said in French or Latin?:

              I'd learn French, no question. When we travelled in Europe, anybody who didn't speak English would generally be able to understand French.

              You can learn to speak French, but you only really study Latin.

              This.

              If you want to be an insufferable grammar Nazi, though, study Anglo-Saxon, Old English, and Middle English. Latin helps you with scientific nomenclature, but boy oh boy does it lead you astray with English grammar.

              I'm not totally convinced that telling people they can be grammar Nazi's is going to be a big selling point in Germany.

              Klaus has already admitted that he's entertained thoughts of conquering Poland. It's probably okay.

              Please love yourself.

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                Renauda
                wrote on 7 Dec 2021, 22:39 last edited by Renauda 12 Jul 2021, 22:40
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                I would recommend French simply for its practicality.

                Latin she can pick up in post secondary study.

                Elbows up!

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                • R Renauda
                  7 Dec 2021, 22:39

                  I would recommend French simply for its practicality.

                  Latin she can pick up in post secondary study.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 7 Dec 2021, 23:20 last edited by
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                  @renauda said in French or Latin?:

                  for its practicality.

                  If that's the criterion, you can't do much better than Chinese, if that's an option.

                  Here, in the US, Spanish.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 7 Dec 2021, 23:31 last edited by
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                    Latin for the reasons you stated Klaus

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      Copper
                      wrote on 7 Dec 2021, 23:53 last edited by
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                      Yes, learning Latin early on is like learning blocking and tackling before you play football.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 7 Dec 2021, 23:56 last edited by
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                        https://www.amazon.com/Latin-All-Occasions-Cocktail-Party-Everything/dp/1592400809

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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Copper
                          wrote on 8 Dec 2021, 00:08 last edited by
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                            Axtremus
                            wrote on 8 Dec 2021, 12:27 last edited by
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                            If your daughter has a preference, maybe just go with it.

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                              89th
                              wrote on 8 Dec 2021, 12:34 last edited by
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                              Cool chart, @Copper - I wonder with the inventions of the printing press (and now, interwebs) if the English language will remain a little more stable... although of course the opposite could happen as we're seeing with lazy usage (including me at times), often dropping verbs. For example, my friend might say "we at the game" instead of saying "we ARE at the game". Then again, I started this response with "cool chart" instead of "THAT IS A cool chart".

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                              • A Axtremus
                                8 Dec 2021, 12:27

                                If your daughter has a preference, maybe just go with it.

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                                Klaus
                                wrote on 8 Dec 2021, 12:37 last edited by
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                                @axtremus said in French or Latin?:

                                If your daughter has a preference, maybe just go with it.

                                Yes, of course. It's her choice. She'll likely choose French. Of course, her choice is mainly based on what her best friends are choosing and not much else...

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                                • K Klaus
                                  8 Dec 2021, 12:37

                                  @axtremus said in French or Latin?:

                                  If your daughter has a preference, maybe just go with it.

                                  Yes, of course. It's her choice. She'll likely choose French. Of course, her choice is mainly based on what her best friends are choosing and not much else...

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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on 8 Dec 2021, 12:40 last edited by
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                                  @klaus said in French or Latin?:

                                  Yes, of course. It's her choice. She'll likely choose French. Of course, her choice is mainly based on what her best friends are choosing and not much else...

                                  Perhaps not a bad thing for learning a new language … she gets to practice with her friends. 🙂

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