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French or Latin?

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    The Academic Provost at Luke's college asked Luke what language Luke took in HS. When Luke replied German, the Provost told him to keep taking German in college until he gets a C... His take is that if you can speak multiple languages it opens up innumerable opportunities later. He said if Luke graduates 30th in his class but speaks German fluently, he will find a better job quicker than the guy that graduates 1st in his class but only speaks English. I respect that practical approach...

    The Brad

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Socially, knowing French is cooler than knowing Latin.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • KlausK Klaus

        I learned Latin when I was at school. I'm not good at languages and I have forgotten most of what I learned at the time, but I think I would choose Latin again.

        The reason is not so much that it is practical, or that is the root of many Western languages. The reason is that it represents Western culture like few other things. All the things that are currently under attack by the woke left - Latin is a symbol for that. I'd learn it as a middle finger gesture towards those people.

        I also find Latin useful as a tool to understand things better. Knowing the original roots and meaning of a word often helps to understand the deeper meaning of a concept.

        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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        @klaus said in French or Latin?:

        The reason is that it represents Western culture like few other things. All the things that are currently under attack by the woke left - Latin is a symbol for that. I'd learn it as a middle finger gesture towards those people.

        If she learns French she can help out during the next German occupation. It's bound to happen sooner or later.

        That would be an even bigger finger towards the woke left.

        I was only joking

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          @klaus said in French or Latin?:

          The reason is that it represents Western culture like few other things. All the things that are currently under attack by the woke left - Latin is a symbol for that. I'd learn it as a middle finger gesture towards those people.

          If she learns French she can help out during the next German occupation. It's bound to happen sooner or later.

          That would be an even bigger finger towards the woke left.

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          #12

          @doctor-phibes said in French or Latin?:

          @klaus said in French or Latin?:

          The reason is that it represents Western culture like few other things. All the things that are currently under attack by the woke left - Latin is a symbol for that. I'd learn it as a middle finger gesture towards those people.

          If she learns French she can help out during the next German occupation. It's bound to happen sooner or later.

          That would be an even bigger finger towards the woke left.

          Not necessary. We are already working on getting the French to speak German instead.

          Link to video

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            @doctor-phibes said in French or Latin?:

            I'd learn French, no question. When we travelled in Europe, anybody who didn't speak English would generally be able to understand French.

            You can learn to speak French, but you only really study Latin.

            This.

            If you want to be an insufferable grammar Nazi, though, study Anglo-Saxon, Old English, and Middle English. Latin helps you with scientific nomenclature, but boy oh boy does it lead you astray with English grammar.

            Please love yourself.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @doctor-phibes said in French or Latin?:

              I'd learn French, no question. When we travelled in Europe, anybody who didn't speak English would generally be able to understand French.

              You can learn to speak French, but you only really study Latin.

              This.

              If you want to be an insufferable grammar Nazi, though, study Anglo-Saxon, Old English, and Middle English. Latin helps you with scientific nomenclature, but boy oh boy does it lead you astray with English grammar.

              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              #14

              @aqua-letifer said in French or Latin?:

              @doctor-phibes said in French or Latin?:

              I'd learn French, no question. When we travelled in Europe, anybody who didn't speak English would generally be able to understand French.

              You can learn to speak French, but you only really study Latin.

              This.

              If you want to be an insufferable grammar Nazi, though, study Anglo-Saxon, Old English, and Middle English. Latin helps you with scientific nomenclature, but boy oh boy does it lead you astray with English grammar.

              I'm not totally convinced that telling people they can be grammar Nazi's is going to be a big selling point in Germany.

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @aqua-letifer said in French or Latin?:

                @doctor-phibes said in French or Latin?:

                I'd learn French, no question. When we travelled in Europe, anybody who didn't speak English would generally be able to understand French.

                You can learn to speak French, but you only really study Latin.

                This.

                If you want to be an insufferable grammar Nazi, though, study Anglo-Saxon, Old English, and Middle English. Latin helps you with scientific nomenclature, but boy oh boy does it lead you astray with English grammar.

                I'm not totally convinced that telling people they can be grammar Nazi's is going to be a big selling point in Germany.

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                George K
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                #15

                @doctor-phibes said in French or Latin?:

                I'm not totally convinced that telling people they can be grammar Nazi's is going to be a big selling point in Germany.

                Cough....

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • KlausK Klaus

                  I learned Latin when I was at school. I'm not good at languages and I have forgotten most of what I learned at the time, but I think I would choose Latin again.

                  The reason is not so much that it is practical, or that is the root of many Western languages. The reason is that it represents Western culture like few other things. All the things that are currently under attack by the woke left - Latin is a symbol for that. I'd learn it as a middle finger gesture towards those people.

                  I also find Latin useful as a tool to understand things better. Knowing the original roots and meaning of a word often helps to understand the deeper meaning of a concept.

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                  @klaus said in French or Latin?:

                  I also find Latin useful as a tool to understand things better. Knowing the original roots and meaning of a word often helps to understand the deeper meaning of a concept.

                  Yes

                  And as GK said, I had Latin in high school and still remember a lot of it. I regularly see word and notice a Latin root.

                  I studied French and Spanish too, but don't notice them very much day-to-day, except when I am in southern Florida.

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                  • CopperC Offline
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                    Google is fun

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @aqua-letifer said in French or Latin?:

                      @doctor-phibes said in French or Latin?:

                      I'd learn French, no question. When we travelled in Europe, anybody who didn't speak English would generally be able to understand French.

                      You can learn to speak French, but you only really study Latin.

                      This.

                      If you want to be an insufferable grammar Nazi, though, study Anglo-Saxon, Old English, and Middle English. Latin helps you with scientific nomenclature, but boy oh boy does it lead you astray with English grammar.

                      I'm not totally convinced that telling people they can be grammar Nazi's is going to be a big selling point in Germany.

                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                      Aqua Letifer
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                      #18

                      @doctor-phibes said in French or Latin?:

                      @aqua-letifer said in French or Latin?:

                      @doctor-phibes said in French or Latin?:

                      I'd learn French, no question. When we travelled in Europe, anybody who didn't speak English would generally be able to understand French.

                      You can learn to speak French, but you only really study Latin.

                      This.

                      If you want to be an insufferable grammar Nazi, though, study Anglo-Saxon, Old English, and Middle English. Latin helps you with scientific nomenclature, but boy oh boy does it lead you astray with English grammar.

                      I'm not totally convinced that telling people they can be grammar Nazi's is going to be a big selling point in Germany.

                      Klaus has already admitted that he's entertained thoughts of conquering Poland. It's probably okay.

                      Please love yourself.

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                        I would recommend French simply for its practicality.

                        Latin she can pick up in post secondary study.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                          I would recommend French simply for its practicality.

                          Latin she can pick up in post secondary study.

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                          George K
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                          @renauda said in French or Latin?:

                          for its practicality.

                          If that's the criterion, you can't do much better than Chinese, if that's an option.

                          Here, in the US, Spanish.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Latin for the reasons you stated Klaus

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • CopperC Offline
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                              Copper
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                              Yes, learning Latin early on is like learning blocking and tackling before you play football.

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                https://www.amazon.com/Latin-All-Occasions-Cocktail-Party-Everything/dp/1592400809

                                Screen Shot 2021-12-07 at 5.55.47 PM copy.jpg

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  ![alt text](f5c4bb80-201d-4982-a107-22fe44919e15-image.png image url)

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                                    If your daughter has a preference, maybe just go with it.

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                                      Cool chart, @Copper - I wonder with the inventions of the printing press (and now, interwebs) if the English language will remain a little more stable... although of course the opposite could happen as we're seeing with lazy usage (including me at times), often dropping verbs. For example, my friend might say "we at the game" instead of saying "we ARE at the game". Then again, I started this response with "cool chart" instead of "THAT IS A cool chart".

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                                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                        If your daughter has a preference, maybe just go with it.

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                                        @axtremus said in French or Latin?:

                                        If your daughter has a preference, maybe just go with it.

                                        Yes, of course. It's her choice. She'll likely choose French. Of course, her choice is mainly based on what her best friends are choosing and not much else...

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                                        • KlausK Klaus

                                          @axtremus said in French or Latin?:

                                          If your daughter has a preference, maybe just go with it.

                                          Yes, of course. It's her choice. She'll likely choose French. Of course, her choice is mainly based on what her best friends are choosing and not much else...

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                                          @klaus said in French or Latin?:

                                          Yes, of course. It's her choice. She'll likely choose French. Of course, her choice is mainly based on what her best friends are choosing and not much else...

                                          Perhaps not a bad thing for learning a new language … she gets to practice with her friends. 🙂

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