Rogan going exclusive to Spotify
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I wonder how much he's getting paid. It must be life-changing money for the guy, who is already wealthy. Otherwise why would he limit access to his podcast?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/19/media/spotify-joe-rogan-exclusive/index.html
Spotify announced Tuesday that it signed "The Joe Rogan Experience" for a multi-year exclusive licensing deal. The talk show-style podcast is anchored by comedian Joe Rogan, whom some consider controversial for peddling conspiracy theories with guests like Alex Jones. The podcast is ranked the second most popular in the United States on Apple Podcasts, according to Podcast Insights, and Rogan topped Forbes' 2020 list of the highest-earning podcasters.
I like how CNN's one-sentence summary of Rogan is that he is considered controversial for peddling Alex Jones' conspiracy theories. If you want to know how a lefty thinks of a non-lefty, look for the wackiest thing the lefty thinks that person might think, and that'll define the person. I guess this is how those of us with the most generous and compassionate hearts tend to view other people.
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HUGE!
Spotify has been making a big run at podcasts. Strategically this makes sense - their platform is not going to make much money on music. They need a more profitable business.
This also bodes poorly for the broad availability of podcasts. The biz model will change.
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@Horace said in Rogan going exclusive to Spotify:
Spotify is garbage compared to Apple Music and Rogan is a sellout.
Ha! I'll take the bait, I know you're being cheeky.
The thing that spotify has going for it is broader adoption. I can share playlists easier with family and friends, because they're on it.
On the nuts and bolts - maybe Apple music is better. I haven't used it since I abandoned iTunes many moons ago.
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Is he going to keep the show on YouTube?
I only listen a few times a year when he has a guest that really interests me but I wouldn’t consider signing up for a service to hear it
Only non-witches get due process.
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Some googling indicates the deal is for around 100m. After taxes and expenses and all that I guess that will what, triple rogan's fortune? Strange that money can motivate him so much, this is clearly against his principles, not hard-line principles but "nice to have" principles at least.
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Is he going to keep the show on YouTube?
I only listen a few times a year when he has a guest that really interests me but I wouldn’t consider signing up for a service to hear it
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This sounds like some sports that go to PPV, and basically nobody watches them casually any more.
Still, for 100 million I'd be willing to stop my podcast altogether.
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This sounds like some sports that go to PPV, and basically nobody watches them casually any more.
Still, for 100 million I'd be willing to stop my podcast altogether.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Rogan going exclusive to Spotify:
This sounds like some sports that go to PPV, and basically nobody watches them casually any more.
Still, for 100 million I'd be willing to stop my podcast altogether.
'Fess up. For 100 million, you'd bugger a sheep in Buckingham Palace, while the Queen clapped time.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Rogan going exclusive to Spotify:
This sounds like some sports that go to PPV, and basically nobody watches them casually any more.
Still, for 100 million I'd be willing to stop my podcast altogether.
'Fess up. For 100 million, you'd bugger a sheep in Buckingham Palace, while the Queen clapped time.
@Jolly said in Rogan going exclusive to Spotify:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Rogan going exclusive to Spotify:
This sounds like some sports that go to PPV, and basically nobody watches them casually any more.
Still, for 100 million I'd be willing to stop my podcast altogether.
'Fess up. For 100 million, you'd bugger a sheep in Buckingham Palace, while the Queen clapped time.
I actually offered to do that for 10 quid, but the stuck up bastards wouldn't take my money.
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Rogan is the new Mainstream Media.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/25/opinion/joe-rogan-spotify-podcast.html
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It would be nice if the pop culture of young americans had some Rogan in it, or a lot of Rogan in it. I don't think he's penetrated visibly into the pop culture of middle aged and older folk though. Just the fact that his show is 3 hours and half about MMA seems like it would put a hard ceiling on how popular it gets.
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Some googling indicates the deal is for around 100m. After taxes and expenses and all that I guess that will what, triple rogan's fortune? Strange that money can motivate him so much, this is clearly against his principles, not hard-line principles but "nice to have" principles at least.
@Horace said in Rogan going exclusive to Spotify:
Some googling indicates the deal is for around 100m. After taxes and expenses and all that I guess that will what, triple rogan's fortune? Strange that money can motivate him so much, this is clearly against his principles, not hard-line principles but "nice to have" principles at least.
I think the audience gets much bigger. He is separating himself from the crowded herd. Name recognition means a lot to some.
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He has 190MM downloads a month. How much bigger is it going to get?
Surely the fact that half his podcasts are MMA related limits it.
@jon-nyc said in Rogan going exclusive to Spotify:
He has 190MM downloads a month. How much bigger is it going to get?
Surely the fact that half his podcasts are MMA related limits it.
I don’t like my free podcast app. It’s clunky to fin stuff. I love my paid Spotify app and I use it all the time. I was surmising from my experience.
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Employees threaten to strike if Spotify refuses to censor Joe Rogan
Despite several internal meetings, select staffers were reportedly dissatisfied with the way senior management responded to Rogan’s controversial material, which prior to finding its way to Spotify, aired exclusively on the longtime funnyman’s YouTube channel.
Digital Music News reports:
Spotify employees were demanding direct editorial oversight over the recently-acquired Joe Rogan Experience podcast. That would include the ability to directly edit or remove sections of upcoming interviews, or block the uploading of episodes deemed problematic. The employees also demanded the ability to add trigger warnings, corrections, and references to fact-checked articles on topics discussed by Rogan in the course of his multi-hour discussions.
Rogan found himself in hot water last week after spreading misinformation about the Portland fires but later used his platform to issue a lengthy apology (more on that here). That said, the part-time comedian did not address the situation with Spotify or some of his more controversial guests.More from Digital Music News:
Some of the group’s demands have already been met by Spotify management, though a refusal to allow further changes is stirring talk of a high-profile walkout or strike. According to preliminary plans shared with Digital Music News, the strike would principally involve New York-based Spotify employees, and would be accompanied by protests outside Spotify’s Manhattan headquarters. Other aspects would involve media appearances and coordination with other activist organizations.
Listeners, however, may not share those same concerns.
Rogan has been both celebrated and rebuked for his wide-ranging guest list, choosing to interview some of the biggest names in sports, politics, entertainment, and pop culture. But now that someone else is paying the bills, his forum may no longer be able to operate like the wild west.
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@George-K said in Rogan going exclusive to Spotify:
Employees threaten to strike if Spotify refuses to censor Joe Rogan
Despite several internal meetings, select staffers were reportedly dissatisfied with the way senior management responded to Rogan’s controversial material, which prior to finding its way to Spotify, aired exclusively on the longtime funnyman’s YouTube channel.
Digital Music News reports:
Spotify employees were demanding direct editorial oversight over the recently-acquired Joe Rogan Experience podcast. That would include the ability to directly edit or remove sections of upcoming interviews, or block the uploading of episodes deemed problematic. The employees also demanded the ability to add trigger warnings, corrections, and references to fact-checked articles on topics discussed by Rogan in the course of his multi-hour discussions.
Rogan found himself in hot water last week after spreading misinformation about the Portland fires but later used his platform to issue a lengthy apology (more on that here). That said, the part-time comedian did not address the situation with Spotify or some of his more controversial guests.More from Digital Music News:
Some of the group’s demands have already been met by Spotify management, though a refusal to allow further changes is stirring talk of a high-profile walkout or strike. According to preliminary plans shared with Digital Music News, the strike would principally involve New York-based Spotify employees, and would be accompanied by protests outside Spotify’s Manhattan headquarters. Other aspects would involve media appearances and coordination with other activist organizations.
Listeners, however, may not share those same concerns.
Rogan has been both celebrated and rebuked for his wide-ranging guest list, choosing to interview some of the biggest names in sports, politics, entertainment, and pop culture. But now that someone else is paying the bills, his forum may no longer be able to operate like the wild west.
I suppose they are threatening to keep their own culture pure. As a listener I could give 2 fucks what is on their platform as long as it covers what I want to listen to. Now I recognize Spotify has cult like tendencies. I’ll probably ignore that as switching costs are inconvenient.
