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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    In a wheelchair, by a cop.

    For shoplifting.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/01/us/arizona-wheelchair-officer-shooting/index.html

    The cop was off duty, but he "was working a special duty assignment at the store."

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • CopperC Offline
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      Copper
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      This is why you can't enforce shoplifting laws.

      The shoplifters just don't like to be harassed.

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      • HoraceH Offline
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        Horace
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        We know how dangerous vehicles are around crowds of pedestrians. Lowes is known to have crowds of pedestrians. The wheelchair may have been considered an imminent threat.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
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          #4

          Apparently we cannot achieve any sort of balance.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            (obligatory "imagine if he were black" here)

            Education is extremely important.

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            • HoraceH Horace

              (obligatory "imagine if he were black" here)

              George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by George K
              #6

              @horace said in Shot 8 times - in the back:

              (obligatory "imagine if he were black" here)

              Interesting comment. The victim's race is not mention in the CNN article.

              Do you think if he had been (lower-case) black, that would have been noted?

              That question is rhetorical, of course.

              Wait...what was the race of the policeman? Surely that's important, AMIRITE??

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • MikM Offline
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                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                He is black, but we cant say that about shoplifters. Self esteem, y’know.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • kluursK Online
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                  kluurs
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                  #8

                  Tough job being a cop. Perhaps he felt that the shoplifter posed a threat to others as he was holding the knife; however, I'm not sure the officer has a clear shot of the guy.
                  I would be concerned that the trajectory of the bullets could easily have hit a customer in the store. Ends the life of one and ruins the life of the officer (and families) as well - sad.

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                  • kluursK kluurs

                    Tough job being a cop. Perhaps he felt that the shoplifter posed a threat to others as he was holding the knife; however, I'm not sure the officer has a clear shot of the guy.
                    I would be concerned that the trajectory of the bullets could easily have hit a customer in the store. Ends the life of one and ruins the life of the officer (and families) as well - sad.

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    @kluurs said in Shot 8 times - in the back:

                    Tough job being a cop.

                    Absolutely. I'd never want that job.

                    Perhaps he felt that the shoplifter posed a threat to others as he was holding the knife

                    In a wheelchair?

                    however, I'm not sure the officer has a clear shot of the guy. I would be concerned that the trajectory of the bullets could easily have hit a customer in the store.

                    This was one of the charges against Rittenhouse - he fired, not knowing whom else he could hit, iirc.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • 89th8 Offline
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                      89th
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                      I saw a few videos of this a few days ago. I was confused why the person was shot... seemed beyond excessive. I did read that the person had a knife so maybe that is why?

                      Not that it justifies it, but 99% of these deaths would be prevented if the suspect simply cooperates during the arrest.

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        I saw a few videos of this a few days ago. I was confused why the person was shot... seemed beyond excessive. I did read that the person had a knife so maybe that is why?

                        Not that it justifies it, but 99% of these deaths would be prevented if the suspect simply cooperates during the arrest.

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                        Copper
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                        #11

                        @89th said in Shot 8 times - in the back:

                        Not that it justifies it, but 99% of these deaths would be prevented if the suspect simply cooperates during the arrest.

                        It's probably closer to 100%

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                        • RenaudaR Offline
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                          Renauda
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                          #12

                          I guess chocking his wheels or ramming into his wheelchair with couple of shopping carts never crossed their minds. Unloading eight or nine rounds into his side and back seems more than just little excessive.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            Go to 0:50 for body cam footage.

                            Go to 1:13 for Lowe's security camera footage.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • HoraceH Offline
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                              Horace
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              suicide by cop used to never make the news. Now, it only makes the news if it's useful to feed the race narrative.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • RenaudaR Offline
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                                Yeah, I guess there were no shopping carts handy. Too bad, he called their bluff- not only a bad thief, but a really bad gambler too boot.

                                Elbows up!

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