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Shot 8 times - in the back

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    George K
    wrote on 4 Dec 2021, 00:02 last edited by
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    In a wheelchair, by a cop.

    For shoplifting.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/01/us/arizona-wheelchair-officer-shooting/index.html

    The cop was off duty, but he "was working a special duty assignment at the store."

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Copper
      wrote on 4 Dec 2021, 00:10 last edited by
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      This is why you can't enforce shoplifting laws.

      The shoplifters just don't like to be harassed.

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        Horace
        wrote on 4 Dec 2021, 00:18 last edited by
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        We know how dangerous vehicles are around crowds of pedestrians. Lowes is known to have crowds of pedestrians. The wheelchair may have been considered an imminent threat.

        Education is extremely important.

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          Mik
          wrote on 4 Dec 2021, 00:28 last edited by
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          Apparently we cannot achieve any sort of balance.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Horace
            wrote on 4 Dec 2021, 00:33 last edited by
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            (obligatory "imagine if he were black" here)

            Education is extremely important.

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            • H Horace
              4 Dec 2021, 00:33

              (obligatory "imagine if he were black" here)

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              George K
              wrote on 4 Dec 2021, 00:35 last edited by George K 12 Apr 2021, 00:35
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              @horace said in Shot 8 times - in the back:

              (obligatory "imagine if he were black" here)

              Interesting comment. The victim's race is not mention in the CNN article.

              Do you think if he had been (lower-case) black, that would have been noted?

              That question is rhetorical, of course.

              Wait...what was the race of the policeman? Surely that's important, AMIRITE??

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Mik
                wrote on 4 Dec 2021, 01:16 last edited by
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                He is black, but we cant say that about shoplifters. Self esteem, y’know.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  kluurs
                  wrote on 4 Dec 2021, 01:41 last edited by
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                  Tough job being a cop. Perhaps he felt that the shoplifter posed a threat to others as he was holding the knife; however, I'm not sure the officer has a clear shot of the guy.
                  I would be concerned that the trajectory of the bullets could easily have hit a customer in the store. Ends the life of one and ruins the life of the officer (and families) as well - sad.

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                  • K kluurs
                    4 Dec 2021, 01:41

                    Tough job being a cop. Perhaps he felt that the shoplifter posed a threat to others as he was holding the knife; however, I'm not sure the officer has a clear shot of the guy.
                    I would be concerned that the trajectory of the bullets could easily have hit a customer in the store. Ends the life of one and ruins the life of the officer (and families) as well - sad.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 4 Dec 2021, 01:44 last edited by
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                    @kluurs said in Shot 8 times - in the back:

                    Tough job being a cop.

                    Absolutely. I'd never want that job.

                    Perhaps he felt that the shoplifter posed a threat to others as he was holding the knife

                    In a wheelchair?

                    however, I'm not sure the officer has a clear shot of the guy. I would be concerned that the trajectory of the bullets could easily have hit a customer in the store.

                    This was one of the charges against Rittenhouse - he fired, not knowing whom else he could hit, iirc.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      89th
                      wrote on 4 Dec 2021, 12:31 last edited by
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                      I saw a few videos of this a few days ago. I was confused why the person was shot... seemed beyond excessive. I did read that the person had a knife so maybe that is why?

                      Not that it justifies it, but 99% of these deaths would be prevented if the suspect simply cooperates during the arrest.

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                      • 89th8 89th
                        4 Dec 2021, 12:31

                        I saw a few videos of this a few days ago. I was confused why the person was shot... seemed beyond excessive. I did read that the person had a knife so maybe that is why?

                        Not that it justifies it, but 99% of these deaths would be prevented if the suspect simply cooperates during the arrest.

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                        Copper
                        wrote on 4 Dec 2021, 13:52 last edited by
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                        @89th said in Shot 8 times - in the back:

                        Not that it justifies it, but 99% of these deaths would be prevented if the suspect simply cooperates during the arrest.

                        It's probably closer to 100%

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 4 Dec 2021, 20:07 last edited by Renauda 12 Apr 2021, 20:08
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                          I guess chocking his wheels or ramming into his wheelchair with couple of shopping carts never crossed their minds. Unloading eight or nine rounds into his side and back seems more than just little excessive.

                          Elbows up!

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                            George K
                            wrote on 5 Dec 2021, 21:37 last edited by
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                            Go to 0:50 for body cam footage.

                            Go to 1:13 for Lowe's security camera footage.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 5 Dec 2021, 21:49 last edited by
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                              suicide by cop used to never make the news. Now, it only makes the news if it's useful to feed the race narrative.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 6 Dec 2021, 01:51 last edited by
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                                Yeah, I guess there were no shopping carts handy. Too bad, he called their bluff- not only a bad thief, but a really bad gambler too boot.

                                Elbows up!

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