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I guess the trigger pulled itself...

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    George K
    wrote on 1 Dec 2021, 23:02 last edited by
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    Video from the self-driving SUV supports his statement.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Horace
      wrote on 1 Dec 2021, 23:29 last edited by
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      Well, I'm not going to be the one to call him a liar. The man is dangerous.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Copper
        wrote on 1 Dec 2021, 23:32 last edited by
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        The gun was obviously at fault.

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          George K
          wrote on 2 Dec 2021, 15:54 last edited by
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          What is most striking about the new claim is that it is subject to physical testing and even a demonstrative exhibit before the jury. If experts report that the gun did not have a “hair trigger” or some defect, it would greatly erode Baldwin’s credibility. It is very unlikely that his counsel has had access to the gun or even any film evidence from the scene. Notably, however, they do have the statement of an assistant director that he thought the shooting was a “misfire.”

          Moreover, I am surprised that Baldwin claims that he would never point even a prop gun at someone and pull the trigger. Given his many shooting scenes, that would be disprovable.

          The defense certainly could argue that, as an actor, Baldwin is unfamiliar with guns and did not “mean to pull the trigger.” However, this interview locks him into an absolute denial of pointing the gun and pulling the trigger. That is a considerable risk when the investigation is not complete and Baldwin’s counsel does not know what the forensic and eyewitness testimony will say.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            89th
            wrote on 2 Dec 2021, 16:17 last edited by
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            Bold claim. Obviously a lie and a direct strategy remove any culpability... and a lie he would only say if he knows there isn't evidence otherwise. For example, is there any evidence of him "pulling the trigger?" highly doubtful, and probably impossible to prove. Therefore the only question left is, "can the gun misfire" and I'd imagine the defense could find enough subject matter experts to testify that yes, it is POSSIBLE.

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              Ivorythumper
              wrote on 2 Dec 2021, 16:20 last edited by
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              Unless the gun was cocked, I don't even see how a misfire could happen.

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                2 Dec 2021, 16:20

                Unless the gun was cocked, I don't even see how a misfire could happen.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 2 Dec 2021, 16:46 last edited by
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                @ivorythumper said in I guess the trigger pulled itself...:

                Unless the gun was cocked, I don't even see how a misfire could happen.

                It's a Colt SAA. There is no hammer block, as in a Ruger Vaquero. That's why you don't carry a round under the hammer during normal carry. It usually takes something as a hard as a drop to make it go off.

                Also, old Colts can get worn at the 1/4 and 1/2 cock notches. This will cause the hammer to fall before full cock, but you still have to cock the gun to those positions.

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                  Improviso
                  wrote on 5 Dec 2021, 12:37 last edited by
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                  We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                  Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 5 Dec 2021, 13:00 last edited by
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                    By the way, that sound in the background during the interview?

                    That was his attorneys screaming at the television.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Kincaid
                      wrote on 6 Dec 2021, 04:13 last edited by
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                      If the hammer slips, you must acquit.

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