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  3. "Jane Roe" speaks: "I was paid to speak against abortion."

"Jane Roe" speaks: "I was paid to speak against abortion."

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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by Mik
    #12

    You are not getting it, Ax. What she said had no impact whatsoever on my view on the subject even before I knew she was paid to say it. I've already seen the devastation choice can cause.

    Now that we do know that it changes nothing for me and never did.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • LarryL Offline
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      Larry
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      #13

      Never get in the way of a Democrat killing babies.

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      • LarryL Offline
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        Larry
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        #14

        "My body, my choice!"
        "Then why is the dead body not yours?"

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        • KlausK Offline
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          Klaus
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          #15

          What an ugly story. Both sides used her as a tool, and she was playing along. Nobody gave a damn about her as a person or, for that matter, the fate of other expecting mothers and their offspring. It was all about winning.

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          • LarryL Offline
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            Larry
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            #16

            We only have the word of a former preacher turned radical to support the claim that she was paid. She obviously doesn't view lying as a problem.

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
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              #17

              “She was telling the truth when she supported my position, and lying when not. I will need unassailable evidence to convince me otherwise.”

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                #18

                Bottom line? She was what Carville had in mind when he made his hundred dollar bill comment.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  “She was telling the truth when she supported my position, and lying when not. I will need unassailable evidence to convince me otherwise.”

                  MikM Offline
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                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #19

                  @jon-nyc said in "Jane Roe" speaks: "I was paid to speak against abortion.":

                  “She was telling the truth when she supported my position, and lying when not. I will need unassailable evidence to convince me otherwise.”

                  Who is saying that?

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    @jon-nyc said in "Jane Roe" speaks: "I was paid to speak against abortion.":

                    “She was telling the truth when she supported my position, and lying when not. I will need unassailable evidence to convince me otherwise.”

                    Who is saying that?

                    Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    #20

                    @Mik said in "Jane Roe" speaks: "I was paid to speak against abortion.":

                    @jon-nyc said in "Jane Roe" speaks: "I was paid to speak against abortion.":

                    “She was telling the truth when she supported my position, and lying when not. I will need unassailable evidence to convince me otherwise.”

                    Who is saying that?

                    Pretty much everybody.

                    I was only joking

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #21

                      At the time she made those statements there was no reason to believe she was lying. Now there is. Not seeing any conflict in those two positions.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • AxtremusA Offline
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                        Axtremus
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                        #22

                        You can go one step further and weight the evidence:

                        • there is no evidence to suggest that she was paid to say X (the "pro-choice" stuff)
                        • now there is evidence indicating that she was paid to say Y (the "pro-life" stuff)
                        • there is no evidence to suggest that she is being paid to say Z (her "deathbed confession" saying that she was paid to to say Y, including collaborating confession by the person who paid her)
                        • there is no evidence to suggest that the collaborating confessor was paid to do so

                        None of these need to change your conviction on the underlying pro-choice vs. pro-life issue, of course. Still, the evidence favors her "deathbed confession" being true.

                        Separately, I am also curious if there are verified cases of former "pro-choice" spokespeople confessed to (or having been exposed) as being actually "pro-life" but merely toed the "pro-choice" line in public in exchange for material gains. Maybe there is zero "pro-life" person ever sold out to toe the "pro-choice" line in public?

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          It shouldn't actually matter what one person thinks, whether she's telling the truth or not. Millions of people have had abortions, and millions of people think it's wrong.

                          I was only joking

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                          • JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
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                            #24

                            Paid off and edited...

                            https://pjmedia.com/culture/tyler-o-neil/2020/05/21/deceptive-editing-norma-mccorvey-from-roe-v-wade-didnt-reject-the-pro-life-cause-former-lawyer-says-n411563

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Copper
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                              #25

                              She was a bad girl

                              Then she was a good girl

                              Now she appears to be somewhere in between

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                              • LarryL Offline
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                                Larry
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                                #26

                                Yet another case of the Left getting caught sucking eggs.

                                Bwahahahaaaaa

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                  Doctor Phibes
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                                  #27

                                  Obviously, her lawyer is a completely unbiased source.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    George K
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                                    #28

                                    GQ talks about this, apparently now only available on the internet archive:

                                    Segregationists, meanwhile, had their own racist reasons. George Wallace, the the longtime Republican governor of Alabama, four-time presidential candidate and outspoken segregationist who is often compared to Donald Trump, backed the legalization of abortion in the late 1960s because he claimed black women were “breeding children as a cash crop” and taking advantage of social welfare programs.

                                    And the edited version:

                                    George Wallace, the longtime governor of Alabama, a Democrat who would later join the far-right American Independent Party, four-time presidential candidate, and outspoken segregationist who is often compared to Donald Trump, backed the legalization of abortion in the late 1960s because he claimed black women were “breeding children as a cash crop” and taking advantage of social welfare programs.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • MikM Offline
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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #29

                                      I lived through George Wallace. Trump is NOTHING like George Wallace.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • CopperC Offline
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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #30

                                        Right

                                        Where did this nonsense come from?

                                        who is often compared to Donald Trump

                                        Not even close.

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          I lived through George Wallace. Trump is NOTHING like George Wallace.

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                                          Loki
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #31

                                          @Mik said in "Jane Roe" speaks: "I was paid to speak against abortion.":

                                          I lived through George Wallace. Trump is NOTHING like George Wallace.

                                          This is so awkwardly stupid that it scares me that people might actually believe it.

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