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Omicron variant: Move over, Delta

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    Jolly
    wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 21:03 last edited by
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    Shocking...

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/shocking-big-pharma-received-emergency-use-approval-couple-weeks-ago-covid-discovered-couple-days-ago/

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      George K
      wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 21:08 last edited by
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      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 21:10 last edited by
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        Very clever. šŸ˜„

        Please love yourself.

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          28 Nov 2021, 21:03

          Shocking...

          https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/shocking-big-pharma-received-emergency-use-approval-couple-weeks-ago-covid-discovered-couple-days-ago/

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 21:11 last edited by
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          @jolly said in Move over, Delta:

          Shocking...

          https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/shocking-big-pharma-received-emergency-use-approval-couple-weeks-ago-covid-discovered-couple-days-ago/

          Jolly, he is way off base. Novavax received emergency authorization for it’s regular vaccine. They are now starting to research and develop an Omicron vaccine update. Moderna, J&J and the others are now talking about testing their standard vaccine against the variant, which makes sense.

          The Brad

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            Copper
            wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 21:43 last edited by
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            The Bee just keeps doing that thing it does

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              28 Nov 2021, 21:43

              The Bee just keeps doing that thing it does

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              George K
              wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 21:45 last edited by
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              @copper said in Move over, Delta:

              The Bee just keeps doing that thing it does

              Wonderful.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                28 Nov 2021, 18:04

                The "already worried" tweet was on Aug 4.

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                89th
                wrote on 29 Nov 2021, 12:07 last edited by
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                @george-k said in Move over, Delta:

                The "already worried" tweet was on Aug 4.

                Hey, I'm still holding out hope for my Omega Variant prediction from Aug 2: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/10582/what-s-the-next-best-outbreak-name

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 29 Nov 2021, 21:11 last edited by
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                  ā€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.ā€ ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    26 Nov 2021, 20:45

                    You completely miss the point in true Axian manner. No one said Trump's bans were great or effective. But Biden slammed them as racist and now imposes his own.

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                    Improviso
                    wrote on 30 Nov 2021, 14:40 last edited by
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                    @mik said in Move over, Delta:

                    You completely miss the point in true Axian manner. No one said Trump's bans were great or effective. But Biden slammed them as racist and now imposes his own.

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                    We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                    Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 30 Nov 2021, 14:44 last edited by
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                      This is how the man was treated. Then they want to talk about uniting the country and what is best for the US. Shameless.

                      ā€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.ā€ ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on 30 Nov 2021, 18:05 last edited by
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                        https://www.kctv5.com/news/local_news/moderna-ceo-expects-material-drop-in-vaccines-effectiveness-against-omicron-variant-this-is-not-going/article_7d231e62-51d1-11ec-9a75-87d77a2a53ed.html

                        Moderna CEO expects material drop in Moderna vaccine’s effectiveness against the Omicron variant.

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                          30 Nov 2021, 18:05

                          https://www.kctv5.com/news/local_news/moderna-ceo-expects-material-drop-in-vaccines-effectiveness-against-omicron-variant-this-is-not-going/article_7d231e62-51d1-11ec-9a75-87d77a2a53ed.html

                          Moderna CEO expects material drop in Moderna vaccine’s effectiveness against the Omicron variant.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 30 Nov 2021, 18:15 last edited by
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                          @axtremus said in Move over, Delta:

                          https://www.kctv5.com/news/local_news/moderna-ceo-expects-material-drop-in-vaccines-effectiveness-against-omicron-variant-this-is-not-going/article_7d231e62-51d1-11ec-9a75-87d77a2a53ed.html

                          Moderna CEO expects material drop in Moderna vaccine’s effectiveness against the Omicron variant.

                          At this point in time, he's blowing smoke out of his ass.

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                            30 Nov 2021, 18:05

                            https://www.kctv5.com/news/local_news/moderna-ceo-expects-material-drop-in-vaccines-effectiveness-against-omicron-variant-this-is-not-going/article_7d231e62-51d1-11ec-9a75-87d77a2a53ed.html

                            Moderna CEO expects material drop in Moderna vaccine’s effectiveness against the Omicron variant.

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                            Jolly
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                              George K
                              wrote on 30 Nov 2021, 18:51 last edited by
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                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 30 Nov 2021, 18:56 last edited by
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                                @George-K Reminds me of @bachophile post about spread vs seriousness of disease… This may be less serious on average, but if it’s spread is wider it could be far worse than Delta.

                                The Brad

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 30 Nov 2021, 18:58 last edited by
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                                  @Jolly I would think that they could look at the particular spike proteins their particular vaccine targets and be able to say ā€œoh šŸ’© ā€œ

                                  The Brad

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 30 Nov 2021, 19:19 last edited by
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                                    If we weren't fed a line of crap, the vaccines should work fairly well against most variants, since about 95% have proteins the vaxx will recognize.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 1 Dec 2021, 17:25 last edited by jon-nyc 12 Jan 2021, 17:25
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                                      Dr. Uğur Şahin—the co-founder of BioNTech who helped develop Pfizer’s mRNA COVID-19 vaccine—told The Wall Street Journal Tuesday that, even if the Omicron variant leads to more breakthrough COVID-19 infections, he believes the vaccines will continue to protect against severe disease. ā€œIf a virus achieves immune escape, it achieves it against antibodies, but there is the second level of immune response that protects from severe disease—the T-cells,ā€ he said.

                                      The European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control said yesterday that as of Tuesday morning, 44 Omicron variant cases had been confirmed by 11 European countries and that ā€œall cases for which there is information available on severity were either asymptomatic or had mild symptoms.ā€

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        1 Dec 2021, 17:25

                                        Dr. Uğur Şahin—the co-founder of BioNTech who helped develop Pfizer’s mRNA COVID-19 vaccine—told The Wall Street Journal Tuesday that, even if the Omicron variant leads to more breakthrough COVID-19 infections, he believes the vaccines will continue to protect against severe disease. ā€œIf a virus achieves immune escape, it achieves it against antibodies, but there is the second level of immune response that protects from severe disease—the T-cells,ā€ he said.

                                        The European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control said yesterday that as of Tuesday morning, 44 Omicron variant cases had been confirmed by 11 European countries and that ā€œall cases for which there is information available on severity were either asymptomatic or had mild symptoms.ā€

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on 1 Dec 2021, 19:00 last edited by
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                                        @jon-nyc said in Move over, Delta:

                                        Dr. Uğur Şahin—the co-founder of BioNTech who helped develop Pfizer’s mRNA COVID-19 vaccine—told The Wall Street Journal Tuesday that, even if the Omicron variant leads to more breakthrough COVID-19 infections, he believes the vaccines will continue to protect against severe disease. ā€œIf a virus achieves immune escape, it achieves it against antibodies, but there is the second level of immune response that protects from severe disease—the T-cells,ā€ he said.

                                        IOW, he believes the Nu variant of Wuhan COVID -Xi 19 achieves immune escape against the current virus but they are hoping that the T-Cells will save the day. The question I have is if the T-Cells are working on the same recognition patterns as the antibodies, why do they think it will work? The ID of the spike proteins had to be very specific as there are necessary and beneficial spike proteins that you do not want to mess with. It’s a big part of the concern with the Merck pill. They have seen examples of stillborn and birth defects when administered to pregnant animals.
                                        https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2021-11-29/fda-merck-covid-pill-effective-but-flags-safety-concerns-pregnant-women

                                        The Brad

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                                          wrote on 1 Dec 2021, 19:00 last edited by
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                                          @jon-nyc said in Move over, Delta:

                                          The European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control said yesterday that as of Tuesday morning, 44 Omicron variant cases had been confirmed by 11 European countries and that ā€œall cases for which there is information available on severity were either asymptomatic or had mild symptoms.ā€

                                          That would be the same number with Delta or even Alpha.

                                          The Brad

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