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Omicron variant: Move over, Delta

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  • L LuFins Dad
    28 Nov 2021, 14:46

    In the meantime, this may be the solution that we’ve been waiting for.

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    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 15:45 last edited by
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    @lufins-dad said in Move over, Delta:

    In the meantime, this may be the solution that we’ve been waiting for.

    Attenuation, you mean?

    They said it'd take 3-5 years, but it's also mutating at a much faster rate than they predicted.

    Please love yourself.

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      Mik
      wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 15:47 last edited by
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      'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • M Mik
        28 Nov 2021, 15:47

        'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.

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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 16:16 last edited by
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        @mik said in Move over, Delta:

        'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.

        That might mean different things.

        Proteins are very complex. There are probably a near-infinite number of possibilities.

        But how many of them can compete with Delta? Assume Xi (I'm calling it that) replaces Delta in fitness. That is hard enough, but Xi, being even more fit, would make it that much harder for new variants to replace Xi. And the kind of traits the new variants would need would lead it eventually toward attenuation. That's not to say one of them could blow up into something really nasty, but overall it's incentivized to get to something more like the common cold instead of ebola.

        Please love yourself.

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          George K
          wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 18:04 last edited by George K
          #49

          The "already worried" tweet was on Aug 4.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • A Aqua Letifer
            28 Nov 2021, 16:16

            @mik said in Move over, Delta:

            'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.

            That might mean different things.

            Proteins are very complex. There are probably a near-infinite number of possibilities.

            But how many of them can compete with Delta? Assume Xi (I'm calling it that) replaces Delta in fitness. That is hard enough, but Xi, being even more fit, would make it that much harder for new variants to replace Xi. And the kind of traits the new variants would need would lead it eventually toward attenuation. That's not to say one of them could blow up into something really nasty, but overall it's incentivized to get to something more like the common cold instead of ebola.

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 18:25 last edited by
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            @aqua-letifer said in Move over, Delta:

            @mik said in Move over, Delta:

            'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.

            That might mean different things.

            Proteins are very complex. There are probably a near-infinite number of possibilities.

            But how many of them can compete with Delta? Assume Xi (I'm calling it that) replaces Delta in fitness. That is hard enough, but Xi, being even more fit, would make it that much harder for new variants to replace Xi. And the kind of traits the new variants would need would lead it eventually toward attenuation. That's not to say one of them could blow up into something really nasty, but overall it's incentivized to get to something more like the common cold instead of ebola.

            Technically this is Nu…

            The Brad

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            • L LuFins Dad
              28 Nov 2021, 18:25

              @aqua-letifer said in Move over, Delta:

              @mik said in Move over, Delta:

              'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.

              That might mean different things.

              Proteins are very complex. There are probably a near-infinite number of possibilities.

              But how many of them can compete with Delta? Assume Xi (I'm calling it that) replaces Delta in fitness. That is hard enough, but Xi, being even more fit, would make it that much harder for new variants to replace Xi. And the kind of traits the new variants would need would lead it eventually toward attenuation. That's not to say one of them could blow up into something really nasty, but overall it's incentivized to get to something more like the common cold instead of ebola.

              Technically this is Nu…

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              Mik
              wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 18:42 last edited by
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              @lufins-dad said in Move over, Delta:

              @aqua-letifer said in Move over, Delta:

              @mik said in Move over, Delta:

              'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.

              That might mean different things.

              Proteins are very complex. There are probably a near-infinite number of possibilities.

              But how many of them can compete with Delta? Assume Xi (I'm calling it that) replaces Delta in fitness. That is hard enough, but Xi, being even more fit, would make it that much harder for new variants to replace Xi. And the kind of traits the new variants would need would lead it eventually toward attenuation. That's not to say one of them could blow up into something really nasty, but overall it's incentivized to get to something more like the common cold instead of ebola.

              Technically this is Nu…

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              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Jolly
                wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 21:03 last edited by
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                Shocking...

                https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/shocking-big-pharma-received-emergency-use-approval-couple-weeks-ago-covid-discovered-couple-days-ago/

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                  George K
                  wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 21:08 last edited by
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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 21:10 last edited by
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                    Very clever. 😄

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • J Jolly
                      28 Nov 2021, 21:03

                      Shocking...

                      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/shocking-big-pharma-received-emergency-use-approval-couple-weeks-ago-covid-discovered-couple-days-ago/

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 21:11 last edited by
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                      @jolly said in Move over, Delta:

                      Shocking...

                      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/shocking-big-pharma-received-emergency-use-approval-couple-weeks-ago-covid-discovered-couple-days-ago/

                      Jolly, he is way off base. Novavax received emergency authorization for it’s regular vaccine. They are now starting to research and develop an Omicron vaccine update. Moderna, J&J and the others are now talking about testing their standard vaccine against the variant, which makes sense.

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                        Copper
                        wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 21:43 last edited by
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                        The Bee just keeps doing that thing it does

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                        • C Copper
                          28 Nov 2021, 21:43

                          The Bee just keeps doing that thing it does

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                          George K
                          wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 21:45 last edited by
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                          @copper said in Move over, Delta:

                          The Bee just keeps doing that thing it does

                          Wonderful.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • G George K
                            28 Nov 2021, 18:04

                            The "already worried" tweet was on Aug 4.

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                            89th
                            wrote on 29 Nov 2021, 12:07 last edited by
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                            @george-k said in Move over, Delta:

                            The "already worried" tweet was on Aug 4.

                            Hey, I'm still holding out hope for my Omega Variant prediction from Aug 2: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/10582/what-s-the-next-best-outbreak-name

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 29 Nov 2021, 21:11 last edited by
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                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • M Mik
                                26 Nov 2021, 20:45

                                You completely miss the point in true Axian manner. No one said Trump's bans were great or effective. But Biden slammed them as racist and now imposes his own.

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                                Improviso
                                wrote on 30 Nov 2021, 14:40 last edited by
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                                @mik said in Move over, Delta:

                                You completely miss the point in true Axian manner. No one said Trump's bans were great or effective. But Biden slammed them as racist and now imposes his own.

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                                We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                                Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 30 Nov 2021, 14:44 last edited by
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                                  This is how the man was treated. Then they want to talk about uniting the country and what is best for the US. Shameless.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on 30 Nov 2021, 18:05 last edited by
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                                    https://www.kctv5.com/news/local_news/moderna-ceo-expects-material-drop-in-vaccines-effectiveness-against-omicron-variant-this-is-not-going/article_7d231e62-51d1-11ec-9a75-87d77a2a53ed.html

                                    Moderna CEO expects material drop in Moderna vaccine’s effectiveness against the Omicron variant.

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                                      30 Nov 2021, 18:05

                                      https://www.kctv5.com/news/local_news/moderna-ceo-expects-material-drop-in-vaccines-effectiveness-against-omicron-variant-this-is-not-going/article_7d231e62-51d1-11ec-9a75-87d77a2a53ed.html

                                      Moderna CEO expects material drop in Moderna vaccine’s effectiveness against the Omicron variant.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 30 Nov 2021, 18:15 last edited by
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                                      @axtremus said in Move over, Delta:

                                      https://www.kctv5.com/news/local_news/moderna-ceo-expects-material-drop-in-vaccines-effectiveness-against-omicron-variant-this-is-not-going/article_7d231e62-51d1-11ec-9a75-87d77a2a53ed.html

                                      Moderna CEO expects material drop in Moderna vaccine’s effectiveness against the Omicron variant.

                                      At this point in time, he's blowing smoke out of his ass.

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                                        30 Nov 2021, 18:05

                                        https://www.kctv5.com/news/local_news/moderna-ceo-expects-material-drop-in-vaccines-effectiveness-against-omicron-variant-this-is-not-going/article_7d231e62-51d1-11ec-9a75-87d77a2a53ed.html

                                        Moderna CEO expects material drop in Moderna vaccine’s effectiveness against the Omicron variant.

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                                          wrote on 30 Nov 2021, 18:51 last edited by
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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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