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Omicron variant: Move over, Delta

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #45

    In the meantime, this may be the solution that we’ve been waiting for.

    The Brad

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      In the meantime, this may be the solution that we’ve been waiting for.

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      Aqua Letifer
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      #46

      @lufins-dad said in Move over, Delta:

      In the meantime, this may be the solution that we’ve been waiting for.

      Attenuation, you mean?

      They said it'd take 3-5 years, but it's also mutating at a much faster rate than they predicted.

      Please love yourself.

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      • MikM Offline
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        'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Mik

          'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.

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          #48

          @mik said in Move over, Delta:

          'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.

          That might mean different things.

          Proteins are very complex. There are probably a near-infinite number of possibilities.

          But how many of them can compete with Delta? Assume Xi (I'm calling it that) replaces Delta in fitness. That is hard enough, but Xi, being even more fit, would make it that much harder for new variants to replace Xi. And the kind of traits the new variants would need would lead it eventually toward attenuation. That's not to say one of them could blow up into something really nasty, but overall it's incentivized to get to something more like the common cold instead of ebola.

          Please love yourself.

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #49

            The "already worried" tweet was on Aug 4.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @mik said in Move over, Delta:

              'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.

              That might mean different things.

              Proteins are very complex. There are probably a near-infinite number of possibilities.

              But how many of them can compete with Delta? Assume Xi (I'm calling it that) replaces Delta in fitness. That is hard enough, but Xi, being even more fit, would make it that much harder for new variants to replace Xi. And the kind of traits the new variants would need would lead it eventually toward attenuation. That's not to say one of them could blow up into something really nasty, but overall it's incentivized to get to something more like the common cold instead of ebola.

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              @aqua-letifer said in Move over, Delta:

              @mik said in Move over, Delta:

              'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.

              That might mean different things.

              Proteins are very complex. There are probably a near-infinite number of possibilities.

              But how many of them can compete with Delta? Assume Xi (I'm calling it that) replaces Delta in fitness. That is hard enough, but Xi, being even more fit, would make it that much harder for new variants to replace Xi. And the kind of traits the new variants would need would lead it eventually toward attenuation. That's not to say one of them could blow up into something really nasty, but overall it's incentivized to get to something more like the common cold instead of ebola.

              Technically this is Nu…

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                @aqua-letifer said in Move over, Delta:

                @mik said in Move over, Delta:

                'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.

                That might mean different things.

                Proteins are very complex. There are probably a near-infinite number of possibilities.

                But how many of them can compete with Delta? Assume Xi (I'm calling it that) replaces Delta in fitness. That is hard enough, but Xi, being even more fit, would make it that much harder for new variants to replace Xi. And the kind of traits the new variants would need would lead it eventually toward attenuation. That's not to say one of them could blow up into something really nasty, but overall it's incentivized to get to something more like the common cold instead of ebola.

                Technically this is Nu…

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                @lufins-dad said in Move over, Delta:

                @aqua-letifer said in Move over, Delta:

                @mik said in Move over, Delta:

                'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.

                That might mean different things.

                Proteins are very complex. There are probably a near-infinite number of possibilities.

                But how many of them can compete with Delta? Assume Xi (I'm calling it that) replaces Delta in fitness. That is hard enough, but Xi, being even more fit, would make it that much harder for new variants to replace Xi. And the kind of traits the new variants would need would lead it eventually toward attenuation. That's not to say one of them could blow up into something really nasty, but overall it's incentivized to get to something more like the common cold instead of ebola.

                Technically this is Nu…

                I Xi.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  #52

                  Shocking...

                  https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/shocking-big-pharma-received-emergency-use-approval-couple-weeks-ago-covid-discovered-couple-days-ago/

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                    George K
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                    #53

                    Screen Shot 2021-11-28 at 3.07.43 PM.png

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                      Aqua Letifer
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                      #54

                      Very clever. 😄

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Shocking...

                        https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/shocking-big-pharma-received-emergency-use-approval-couple-weeks-ago-covid-discovered-couple-days-ago/

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                        #55

                        @jolly said in Move over, Delta:

                        Shocking...

                        https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/shocking-big-pharma-received-emergency-use-approval-couple-weeks-ago-covid-discovered-couple-days-ago/

                        Jolly, he is way off base. Novavax received emergency authorization for it’s regular vaccine. They are now starting to research and develop an Omicron vaccine update. Moderna, J&J and the others are now talking about testing their standard vaccine against the variant, which makes sense.

                        The Brad

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                        • CopperC Offline
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                          The Bee just keeps doing that thing it does

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                          • CopperC Copper

                            The Bee just keeps doing that thing it does

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                            George K
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                            #57

                            @copper said in Move over, Delta:

                            The Bee just keeps doing that thing it does

                            Wonderful.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG George K

                              The "already worried" tweet was on Aug 4.

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                              @george-k said in Move over, Delta:

                              The "already worried" tweet was on Aug 4.

                              Hey, I'm still holding out hope for my Omega Variant prediction from Aug 2: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/10582/what-s-the-next-best-outbreak-name

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                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  You completely miss the point in true Axian manner. No one said Trump's bans were great or effective. But Biden slammed them as racist and now imposes his own.

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                                  @mik said in Move over, Delta:

                                  You completely miss the point in true Axian manner. No one said Trump's bans were great or effective. But Biden slammed them as racist and now imposes his own.

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                                  We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                                  Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                                    This is how the man was treated. Then they want to talk about uniting the country and what is best for the US. Shameless.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      https://www.kctv5.com/news/local_news/moderna-ceo-expects-material-drop-in-vaccines-effectiveness-against-omicron-variant-this-is-not-going/article_7d231e62-51d1-11ec-9a75-87d77a2a53ed.html

                                      Moderna CEO expects material drop in Moderna vaccine’s effectiveness against the Omicron variant.

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                                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                        https://www.kctv5.com/news/local_news/moderna-ceo-expects-material-drop-in-vaccines-effectiveness-against-omicron-variant-this-is-not-going/article_7d231e62-51d1-11ec-9a75-87d77a2a53ed.html

                                        Moderna CEO expects material drop in Moderna vaccine’s effectiveness against the Omicron variant.

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                                        @axtremus said in Move over, Delta:

                                        https://www.kctv5.com/news/local_news/moderna-ceo-expects-material-drop-in-vaccines-effectiveness-against-omicron-variant-this-is-not-going/article_7d231e62-51d1-11ec-9a75-87d77a2a53ed.html

                                        Moderna CEO expects material drop in Moderna vaccine’s effectiveness against the Omicron variant.

                                        At this point in time, he's blowing smoke out of his ass.

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                                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                          https://www.kctv5.com/news/local_news/moderna-ceo-expects-material-drop-in-vaccines-effectiveness-against-omicron-variant-this-is-not-going/article_7d231e62-51d1-11ec-9a75-87d77a2a53ed.html

                                          Moderna CEO expects material drop in Moderna vaccine’s effectiveness against the Omicron variant.

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