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    Klaus
    wrote on 12 Feb 2022, 12:45 last edited by Klaus 2 Dec 2022, 12:47
    #336

    click to show

    Spoiler content

    Please ignore.

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 21 Feb 2022, 13:45 last edited by
      #337

      The layout recently changed for the forum on my iPhone. I’m not really liking the way the notifications are popping up on my dashboard and the search isn’t working.

      The Brad

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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on 25 Feb 2022, 02:51 last edited by
        #338

        Not sure if it is my internet or if anyone else is having a problem, but alot of the forum board features do not work anymore. For example:

        search function
        going to last unread post
        seeing dates/times on posts
        being able to hit the "reply" or "quote" button on someones post
        only the last 10 or so posts can be shown. Not able to see any more than that.

        Using an iMac using Safari 15.3 and operating system Big Sur 11.6.4

        Just happened a couple of days ago. I have "auto" updates on, so not sure if something updated and is causing the problem.

        I suppose I could try another browser but would have to download one, and all the other webpages that i look at seem to be unaffected.

        K 1 Reply Last reply 25 Feb 2022, 10:38
        • T taiwan_girl
          25 Feb 2022, 02:51

          Not sure if it is my internet or if anyone else is having a problem, but alot of the forum board features do not work anymore. For example:

          search function
          going to last unread post
          seeing dates/times on posts
          being able to hit the "reply" or "quote" button on someones post
          only the last 10 or so posts can be shown. Not able to see any more than that.

          Using an iMac using Safari 15.3 and operating system Big Sur 11.6.4

          Just happened a couple of days ago. I have "auto" updates on, so not sure if something updated and is causing the problem.

          I suppose I could try another browser but would have to download one, and all the other webpages that i look at seem to be unaffected.

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          Klaus
          wrote on 25 Feb 2022, 10:38 last edited by
          #339

          @taiwan_girl said in Forum Issues:

          Not sure if it is my internet or if anyone else is having a problem, but alot of the forum board features do not work anymore. For example:

          search function
          going to last unread post
          seeing dates/times on posts
          being able to hit the "reply" or "quote" button on someones post
          only the last 10 or so posts can be shown. Not able to see any more than that.

          Using an iMac using Safari 15.3 and operating system Big Sur 11.6.4

          Just happened a couple of days ago. I have "auto" updates on, so not sure if something updated and is causing the problem.

          I suppose I could try another browser but would have to download one, and all the other webpages that i look at seem to be unaffected.

          That's very strange.

          Do you have a screenshot or something to illustrate the problem?

          On my side, everything seems to work fine.

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          • K Klaus
            25 Feb 2022, 10:38

            @taiwan_girl said in Forum Issues:

            Not sure if it is my internet or if anyone else is having a problem, but alot of the forum board features do not work anymore. For example:

            search function
            going to last unread post
            seeing dates/times on posts
            being able to hit the "reply" or "quote" button on someones post
            only the last 10 or so posts can be shown. Not able to see any more than that.

            Using an iMac using Safari 15.3 and operating system Big Sur 11.6.4

            Just happened a couple of days ago. I have "auto" updates on, so not sure if something updated and is causing the problem.

            I suppose I could try another browser but would have to download one, and all the other webpages that i look at seem to be unaffected.

            That's very strange.

            Do you have a screenshot or something to illustrate the problem?

            On my side, everything seems to work fine.

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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on 27 Feb 2022, 02:06 last edited by
            #340

            @Klaus It must have something to do with using Safari (and maybe with a VPN, but I dont think so).

            I just downloaded the Firefox browser and this forum board seems to operate normally with this browser. 🤷

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              Klaus
              wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 11:58 last edited by
              #341

              This morning we had an outage that lasted an hour or two.

              The reason was that the latest NodeBB upgrade fucked up the server pretty badly, and amazingly it was at first not even possible to restore from the last backup (the good old trick of turning it off and then on again eventually worked).

              It is possible that a small number of posts has been lost.

              I'll investigate this in more detail when I have more time.

              Doctor PhibesD 1 Reply Last reply 28 Mar 2022, 12:05
              • K Klaus
                28 Mar 2022, 11:58

                This morning we had an outage that lasted an hour or two.

                The reason was that the latest NodeBB upgrade fucked up the server pretty badly, and amazingly it was at first not even possible to restore from the last backup (the good old trick of turning it off and then on again eventually worked).

                It is possible that a small number of posts has been lost.

                I'll investigate this in more detail when I have more time.

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 12:05 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                #342

                @Klaus said in Forum Issues:

                This morning we had an outage that lasted an hour or two.

                The reason was that the latest NodeBB upgrade fucked up the server pretty badly, and amazingly it was at first not even possible to restore from the last backup (the good old trick of turning it off and then on again eventually worked).

                I thought it was the Russians. TNCR would be the obvious place to start if you want to bring down Western civilisation, after all.

                I was only joking

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                  George K
                  wrote on 21 May 2022, 20:41 last edited by
                  #343

                  Any hope for the Twitter plug-in?

                  Or the spoiler plug-in?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                  K 1 Reply Last reply 21 May 2022, 20:45
                  • George KG George K
                    21 May 2022, 20:41

                    Any hope for the Twitter plug-in?

                    Or the spoiler plug-in?

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                    Klaus
                    wrote on 21 May 2022, 20:45 last edited by
                    #344

                    @George-K said in Forum Issues:

                    Any hope for the Twitter plug-in?

                    Or the spoiler plug-in?

                    Yes. I have a plan on how to make both work again.

                    The problem is: The "restore from backup" functionality is still not working. I'm currently in discussion with a guy from Cloudron (that's the software responsible for that) on how to solve that. I'm hesitant to risk anything before having a working backup functionality.

                    George KG 1 Reply Last reply 21 May 2022, 20:53
                    • K Klaus
                      21 May 2022, 20:45

                      @George-K said in Forum Issues:

                      Any hope for the Twitter plug-in?

                      Or the spoiler plug-in?

                      Yes. I have a plan on how to make both work again.

                      The problem is: The "restore from backup" functionality is still not working. I'm currently in discussion with a guy from Cloudron (that's the software responsible for that) on how to solve that. I'm hesitant to risk anything before having a working backup functionality.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 21 May 2022, 20:53 last edited by
                      #345

                      @Klaus said in Forum Issues:

                      @George-K said in Forum Issues:

                      Any hope for the Twitter plug-in?

                      Or the spoiler plug-in?

                      Yes. I have a plan on how to make both work again.

                      The problem is: The "restore from backup" functionality is still not working. I'm currently in discussion with a guy from Cloudron (that's the software responsible for that) on how to solve that. I'm hesitant to risk anything before having a working backup functionality.

                      Thanks for the reply. It's more of an annoyance than anything else, of course. A minor thing compared to the catastrophe of a few days ago.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                      K 1 Reply Last reply 22 May 2022, 09:37
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                        Larry
                        wrote on 22 May 2022, 01:22 last edited by
                        #346

                        I can't get the "quote" icon to work.

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                        • LarryL Larry
                          22 May 2022, 01:22

                          I can't get the "quote" icon to work.

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                          Klaus
                          wrote on 22 May 2022, 09:35 last edited by
                          #347

                          @Larry said in Forum Issues:

                          I can't get the "quote" icon to work.

                          Can you be more specific?

                          LarryL 1 Reply Last reply 22 May 2022, 14:31
                          • George KG George K
                            21 May 2022, 20:53

                            @Klaus said in Forum Issues:

                            @George-K said in Forum Issues:

                            Any hope for the Twitter plug-in?

                            Or the spoiler plug-in?

                            Yes. I have a plan on how to make both work again.

                            The problem is: The "restore from backup" functionality is still not working. I'm currently in discussion with a guy from Cloudron (that's the software responsible for that) on how to solve that. I'm hesitant to risk anything before having a working backup functionality.

                            Thanks for the reply. It's more of an annoyance than anything else, of course. A minor thing compared to the catastrophe of a few days ago.

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                            Klaus
                            wrote on 22 May 2022, 09:37 last edited by Klaus
                            #348

                            @George-K said in Forum Issues:

                            @Klaus said in Forum Issues:

                            @George-K said in Forum Issues:

                            Any hope for the Twitter plug-in?

                            Or the spoiler plug-in?

                            Yes. I have a plan on how to make both work again.

                            The problem is: The "restore from backup" functionality is still not working. I'm currently in discussion with a guy from Cloudron (that's the software responsible for that) on how to solve that. I'm hesitant to risk anything before having a working backup functionality.

                            Thanks for the reply. It's more of an annoyance than anything else, of course. A minor thing compared to the catastrophe of a few days ago.

                            OK, reinstalled plugins this morning (I found a way to make a backup of the whole server, not just the forum - that should do as a safety measure).

                            This is the "standard" Twitter plugin, without the modification I made (which was to add a link below the embedded tweet). There were some posters who were having a problem with the embedded tweets, so maybe they'll be unhappy with the plugin. However, I'd rather not use my modification of the plugin again, because the status of being an "unofficial" plugin caused some of the problems we had.

                            Also :

                            click to show

                            Here's the spoiler plugin again.

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                              Klaus
                              wrote on 22 May 2022, 09:48 last edited by
                              #349

                              The Twitter plugin does seem to be a little fragile. When I embed a tweet and hit "reply", I can't immediately see the tweet but only when I reload the page. Maybe it's just my particular browser. Let's see how that works.

                              MikM 1 Reply Last reply 23 May 2022, 13:00
                              • K Klaus
                                22 May 2022, 09:35

                                @Larry said in Forum Issues:

                                I can't get the "quote" icon to work.

                                Can you be more specific?

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                                Larry
                                wrote on 22 May 2022, 14:31 last edited by
                                #350

                                @Klaus said in Forum Issues:

                                @Larry said in Forum Issues:

                                I can't get the "quote" icon to work.

                                Can you be more specific?

                                It's working now.

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                                  Klaus
                                  wrote on 22 May 2022, 17:34 last edited by
                                  #351

                                  OK, backup is working again. Luckily the Cloudron developers are quite helpful.

                                  Turns out I stumbled upon a Cloudron bug they fixed a week ago, but the fix hasn't been officially released yet.

                                  https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box/-/commit/7ed8678d50846bf85802bf6b706e12c1f026ec77

                                  AxtremusA 1 Reply Last reply 22 May 2022, 18:12
                                  • K Klaus
                                    22 May 2022, 17:34

                                    OK, backup is working again. Luckily the Cloudron developers are quite helpful.

                                    Turns out I stumbled upon a Cloudron bug they fixed a week ago, but the fix hasn't been officially released yet.

                                    https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box/-/commit/7ed8678d50846bf85802bf6b706e12c1f026ec77

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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on 22 May 2022, 18:12 last edited by
                                    #352

                                    @Klaus said in Forum Issues:

                                    Turns out I stumbled upon a Cloudron bug they fixed a week ago, but the fix hasn't been officially released yet.

                                    https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box/-/commit/7ed8678d50846bf85802bf6b706e12c1f026ec77

                                    Looks like they just increased the timeout by 10x to cope with restoration of larger backups that need more time to complete. Give it enough time and our backup bundle will also grow to 10x its current size and will break this "fix" again. :man-shrugging:

                                    Also an indication that Cloudron has not been used to support bigger deployments yet, seeing that we are among the first to stumble into this bug. We just may be the inspiration and the driving force that push Cloudron to scale better. 😬

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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus
                                      22 May 2022, 18:12

                                      @Klaus said in Forum Issues:

                                      Turns out I stumbled upon a Cloudron bug they fixed a week ago, but the fix hasn't been officially released yet.

                                      https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box/-/commit/7ed8678d50846bf85802bf6b706e12c1f026ec77

                                      Looks like they just increased the timeout by 10x to cope with restoration of larger backups that need more time to complete. Give it enough time and our backup bundle will also grow to 10x its current size and will break this "fix" again. :man-shrugging:

                                      Also an indication that Cloudron has not been used to support bigger deployments yet, seeing that we are among the first to stumble into this bug. We just may be the inspiration and the driving force that push Cloudron to scale better. 😬

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                                      Klaus
                                      wrote on 22 May 2022, 18:14 last edited by
                                      #353

                                      @Axtremus said in Forum Issues:

                                      Looks like they just increased the timeout by 10x to cope with restoration of larger backups that need more time to complete. Give it enough time and our backup bundle will also grow to 10x its current size and will break this "fix" again.

                                      Actually, that's exactly what I told the developer, too 🙂 It's a workaround and not a fix.

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                                        taiwan_girl
                                        wrote on 23 May 2022, 01:29 last edited by
                                        #354

                                        Not really related but kind of.

                                        But what is the business model of the company where we have this forum? I dont understand how/where they are making money. even enough to pay for us!

                                        AxtremusA K 2 Replies Last reply 23 May 2022, 01:49
                                        • T taiwan_girl
                                          23 May 2022, 01:29

                                          Not really related but kind of.

                                          But what is the business model of the company where we have this forum? I dont understand how/where they are making money. even enough to pay for us!

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                                          Axtremus
                                          wrote on 23 May 2022, 01:49 last edited by
                                          #355

                                          @taiwan_girl Three parts to this:

                                          1. The hardware & infrastructure part: we pay another company whose business is to rent out server hardware/infrastructure (to whoever willing to pay to rent them) to rent some server hardware/infrastructure for our use.

                                          2. Software: we use free software (running on the rented hardware/infrastructure) to provide this thing we call TNCR for our own use. Why is the software free? Well, you can Google and read articles on why there are so much free software out there, or you can just enjoy it without knowing why ... it is sufficient to know that you can very easily go onto the Internet to download free software for your own use, we are basically doing the same with the software that powers TNCR.

                                          3. Operations: the expertise, time, and effort that some humans put into keeping TNCR running. This is all volunteer work for TNCR, so far with @Klaus putting in the lion's share of this work. Why do people volunteer? Maybe @Klaus has an ulterior motive or an evil master plan behind all this, but personally I am happy to just take advantage of his work without thinking much about his motivation. It's just easier for me that way so I am going with it.

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