Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars
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wrote on 10 Nov 2021, 02:41 last edited by
(https://www.ibtimes.com/congress-automakers-take-steps-prevent-drunk-driving-3334543)
Interesting to see how they do this.
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wrote on 10 Nov 2021, 03:01 last edited by
I think there is a big difference between drunk driving and doing harm while drunk driving.
This will be another debate about slippery slopes.
What other impairment will be allowed or not allowed?
How about driving while stupid?
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I think there is a big difference between drunk driving and doing harm while drunk driving.
This will be another debate about slippery slopes.
What other impairment will be allowed or not allowed?
How about driving while stupid?
wrote on 10 Nov 2021, 12:57 last edited by@copper would you clarify that please? I see no difference at all.
It’s like an eyesight requirement. Is there a difference between driving blind and driving blind and causing harm?
Yes stupidity is also an impairment but can’t be quantified easily.
Again personal freedoms? I can drive drunk if I promise not to hit anyone?
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wrote on 10 Nov 2021, 13:05 last edited by Mik 11 Oct 2021, 13:06
There are situations that need to be addressed...how about the guy taking his wife to the hospital with a baby on the way? Hs driving could be a bit erratic, and stopping their car could be catastrophic.
With BAC detection, what if a passenger is quite drunk? How will it distinguish between driver and passenger?
A potentially good idea but with potential for harm. That it is proportionally less harm will be no comfort to those who are affected.
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wrote on 10 Nov 2021, 13:11 last edited by
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wrote on 10 Nov 2021, 13:58 last edited by
It comes down to one simple premise. The more involved the US Government is in your daily life, the worse off you are. This is government overreach.
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It comes down to one simple premise. The more involved the US Government is in your daily life, the worse off you are. This is government overreach.
wrote on 10 Nov 2021, 14:13 last edited by@lufins-dad said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
It comes down to one simple premise. The more involved the US Government is in your daily life, the worse off you are.
Until you need something.
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wrote on 10 Nov 2021, 14:22 last edited by
You chaps do realise it's already illegal to drive over the limit, right?
If they catch you now, you're fucked, and what's more you deserve to be. I know people who've suffered life changing injuries due to a drunk driver, and the driver thought he was absolutely fine.
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You chaps do realise it's already illegal to drive over the limit, right?
If they catch you now, you're fucked, and what's more you deserve to be. I know people who've suffered life changing injuries due to a drunk driver, and the driver thought he was absolutely fine.
wrote on 10 Nov 2021, 14:48 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
You chaps do realise it's already illegal to drive over the limit, right?
If they catch you now, you're fucked, and what's more you deserve to be. I know people who've suffered life changing injuries due to a drunk driver, and the driver thought he was absolutely fine.
That’s not debatable. Personally, I would approve of stiffer penalties.
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You chaps do realise it's already illegal to drive over the limit, right?
If they catch you now, you're fucked, and what's more you deserve to be. I know people who've suffered life changing injuries due to a drunk driver, and the driver thought he was absolutely fine.
wrote on 10 Nov 2021, 15:09 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
You chaps do realise it's already illegal to drive over the limit, right?
A minor detail. Probably not to be taken seriously when personal civil liberties are involved.
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wrote on 10 Nov 2021, 15:18 last edited by
It's a simple choice, really.
Freedom vs. safety.
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wrote on 10 Nov 2021, 15:20 last edited by
@jolly said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
It's a simple choice, really.
Freedom vs. safety.
The thing about impaired driving is that you're affecting other people's safety as well as your own. Your claim to freedom ends when you adversely affect my children's safety.
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wrote on 10 Nov 2021, 15:53 last edited by
It’s really not freedom vs safety. It’s rights vs responsibilities.
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wrote on 10 Nov 2021, 16:21 last edited by
I remember a few years back a drunk driver sued the bar that served him after he got injured after falling off his stupid motorbike. What a cock.
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wrote on 10 Nov 2021, 16:47 last edited by
Read a little more about this. It’s absurd.
Do any of your cars have lane departure mitigation? Our new Honda does. It’s a feature that I had to turn off because I naturally end to hug the center line. Not cross the line, but run within 2-3 feet. Where I grew up we had very narrow road lanes due to the terrain. With the lane departure mitigation on, it is always trying to correct me. According to the technology they are citing in the article, I would be pulled over and shut down. Screw that.
Beyond that, why not set it up for other offenses? Driving 10 MPH over the speed limit? Pull it over and shut it down… Go through a stop sign? Shut it down… Run a yellow a little too late? Here’s your ticket… Would likely save more lives than the drunk driving mitigation….
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Read a little more about this. It’s absurd.
Do any of your cars have lane departure mitigation? Our new Honda does. It’s a feature that I had to turn off because I naturally end to hug the center line. Not cross the line, but run within 2-3 feet. Where I grew up we had very narrow road lanes due to the terrain. With the lane departure mitigation on, it is always trying to correct me. According to the technology they are citing in the article, I would be pulled over and shut down. Screw that.
Beyond that, why not set it up for other offenses? Driving 10 MPH over the speed limit? Pull it over and shut it down… Go through a stop sign? Shut it down… Run a yellow a little too late? Here’s your ticket… Would likely save more lives than the drunk driving mitigation….
wrote on 10 Nov 2021, 16:54 last edited by@lufins-dad said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
Beyond that, why not set it up for other offenses? Driving 10 MPH over the speed limit? Pull it over and shut it down… Go through a stop sign? Shut it down… Run a yellow a little too late? Here’s your ticket… Would likely save more lives than the drunk driving mitigation….
Great ideas, thanks
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Read a little more about this. It’s absurd.
Do any of your cars have lane departure mitigation? Our new Honda does. It’s a feature that I had to turn off because I naturally end to hug the center line. Not cross the line, but run within 2-3 feet. Where I grew up we had very narrow road lanes due to the terrain. With the lane departure mitigation on, it is always trying to correct me. According to the technology they are citing in the article, I would be pulled over and shut down. Screw that.
Beyond that, why not set it up for other offenses? Driving 10 MPH over the speed limit? Pull it over and shut it down… Go through a stop sign? Shut it down… Run a yellow a little too late? Here’s your ticket… Would likely save more lives than the drunk driving mitigation….
wrote on 10 Nov 2021, 17:11 last edited by@lufins-dad said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
Read a little more about this. It’s absurd.
Do any of your cars have lane departure mitigation? Our new Honda does. It’s a feature that I had to turn off because I naturally end to hug the center line. Not cross the line, but run within 2-3 feet. Where I grew up we had very narrow road lanes due to the terrain. With the lane departure mitigation on, it is always trying to correct me. According to the technology they are citing in the article, I would be pulled over and shut down. Screw that.
Beyond that, why not set it up for other offenses? Driving 10 MPH over the speed limit? Pull it over and shut it down… Go through a stop sign? Shut it down… Run a yellow a little too late? Here’s your ticket… Would likely save more lives than the drunk driving mitigation….
There's been an ever increasing level of safety legislation in cars over the last few decades, and if you look at the death rates, it's worked. I'd be willing to bet that there was resistance to almost every improvement from some quarters.
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wrote on 10 Nov 2021, 17:14 last edited by
@mik said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
It’s really not freedom vs safety. It’s rights vs responsibilities.
Isn't that part of the equation?
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@lufins-dad said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
Read a little more about this. It’s absurd.
Do any of your cars have lane departure mitigation? Our new Honda does. It’s a feature that I had to turn off because I naturally end to hug the center line. Not cross the line, but run within 2-3 feet. Where I grew up we had very narrow road lanes due to the terrain. With the lane departure mitigation on, it is always trying to correct me. According to the technology they are citing in the article, I would be pulled over and shut down. Screw that.
Beyond that, why not set it up for other offenses? Driving 10 MPH over the speed limit? Pull it over and shut it down… Go through a stop sign? Shut it down… Run a yellow a little too late? Here’s your ticket… Would likely save more lives than the drunk driving mitigation….
There's been an ever increasing level of safety legislation in cars over the last few decades, and if you look at the death rates, it's worked. I'd be willing to bet that there was resistance to almost every improvement from some quarters.
wrote on 10 Nov 2021, 17:35 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
@lufins-dad said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
Read a little more about this. It’s absurd.
Do any of your cars have lane departure mitigation? Our new Honda does. It’s a feature that I had to turn off because I naturally end to hug the center line. Not cross the line, but run within 2-3 feet. Where I grew up we had very narrow road lanes due to the terrain. With the lane departure mitigation on, it is always trying to correct me. According to the technology they are citing in the article, I would be pulled over and shut down. Screw that.
Beyond that, why not set it up for other offenses? Driving 10 MPH over the speed limit? Pull it over and shut it down… Go through a stop sign? Shut it down… Run a yellow a little too late? Here’s your ticket… Would likely save more lives than the drunk driving mitigation….
There's been an ever increasing level of safety legislation in cars over the last few decades, and if you look at the death rates, it's worked. I'd be willing to bet that there was resistance to almost every improvement from some quarters.
I would say there is a massive difference between crumple zones, airbag standards, and child restraints vs. the car not liking how you are driving and pulling over…
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wrote on 11 Nov 2021, 01:07 last edited by
@jolly said in Drunk Drive Sensors To Be Required in US Cars:
It's a simple choice, really.
Freedom vs. safety.
I agree. Again, you have to compromise to live in a civilized society.
You want 100% personal freedom to do what you want? Check out Eritrea, or a country like that.