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The bill comes due for overextended AirBnB owners

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    Mik
    wrote on 17 May 2020, 20:23 last edited by
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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-bargain-with-the-devilbill-comes-due-for-overextended-airbnb-hosts-11588083336?mod=e2fb&fbclid=IwAR1cDVDOrfCwytzQpnwEoPOMjxSLRjwz8x_tmdueOsVlTIPoUcrFwtR_u5c&fbclid=IwAR3gRfzzbkTrQmVt7QAF5D8Xuzsd17nNN1ONOfKtzyXV5jqMHO1twwaho94&fbclid=IwAR3RkhNR-TEx6JyE030cXmcTlNT3C_mEz_rfSst2pA06nV3Tkw8GfwVwTYc

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 17 May 2020, 21:07 last edited by
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      Man, I was strongly thinking about buying a vacation house last year. It was going to be a stretch, but I figured rental would cover part of the costs...

      So glad I didn't.

      The Brad

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        Loki
        wrote on 17 May 2020, 21:33 last edited by
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        Black Swan events hit hard but by their nature you can’t anticipate. It hurts more to become cash poor with debt but stock market investors are getting nailed probably pretty much the same.

        Both have to say “it‘ll come back”. The non debt group can survive the nuclear winter longer.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 17 May 2020, 22:05 last edited by
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          Debt-free.

          Only way to go.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Copper
            wrote on 17 May 2020, 22:24 last edited by
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            There is a similar environment in flight training.

            Many trainer airplanes are leased to the flight school.

            The owner hopes that rentals will cover his loan payments.

            Many will be hurting after the last couple months.

            This will probably be true for a lot of equipment idled by covid.

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              17 May 2020, 21:33

              Black Swan events hit hard but by their nature you can’t anticipate. It hurts more to become cash poor with debt but stock market investors are getting nailed probably pretty much the same.

              Both have to say “it‘ll come back”. The non debt group can survive the nuclear winter longer.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 17 May 2020, 23:00 last edited by
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              @Loki said in The bill comes due for overextended AirBnB owners:

              It hurts more to become cash poor with debt but stock market investors are getting nailed probably pretty much the same.

              Except only a tiny minority of individual stock market investors buy with leverage, almost all real estate investors do.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • J jon-nyc
                17 May 2020, 23:00

                @Loki said in The bill comes due for overextended AirBnB owners:

                It hurts more to become cash poor with debt but stock market investors are getting nailed probably pretty much the same.

                Except only a tiny minority of individual stock market investors buy with leverage, almost all real estate investors do.

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 17 May 2020, 23:09 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in The bill comes due for overextended AirBnB owners:

                @Loki said in The bill comes due for overextended AirBnB owners:

                It hurts more to become cash poor with debt but stock market investors are getting nailed probably pretty much the same.

                Except only a tiny minority of individual stock market investors buy with leverage, almost all real estate investors do.

                Commercial Real Estate investors are in even more peril since there will be a glut of available properties once this is over.

                The Brad

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 17 May 2020, 23:11 last edited by
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                  I know, my REITs are down 20%.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 17 May 2020, 23:50 last edited by
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                    If you are going to go into a highly leveraged business plan you had best have disruption insurance.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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