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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on 15 Nov 2021, 18:46 last edited by Doctor Phibes
    #78

    I stopped off at the gas station and bought a scratch and sniff lottery card earlier today.

    It smelled of lost dreams.

    I was only joking

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    • K Klaus
      15 Nov 2021, 18:37

      I think I'll also diversify and buy a little Solana and Cardano, and maybe some Polkadot. Each of them has something that none of the others have.

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 15 Nov 2021, 19:07 last edited by
      #79

      @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

      I think I'll also diversify and buy a little Solana and Cardano, and maybe some Polkadot. Each of them has something that none of the others have.

      Cardano is next week's lunch money. I've looked at Polkadot as well.

      The Brad

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 16 Nov 2021, 13:14 last edited by
        #80

        Bad day for Crypto, lol. I may need to switch my purchasing from Monday to Tuesday…

        The Brad

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          Klaus
          wrote on 16 Nov 2021, 13:52 last edited by
          #81

          I've opened an additional ccount at an US exchange, Kraken.

          I wonder how safe the deposit there is. Over here, there's a kind of insurance that protects me from insolvency risk of the exchange or bank.

          Any particular keywords I need to look out for in their terms of service to gauge how safe my money is?

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          • K Klaus
            16 Nov 2021, 13:52

            I've opened an additional ccount at an US exchange, Kraken.

            I wonder how safe the deposit there is. Over here, there's a kind of insurance that protects me from insolvency risk of the exchange or bank.

            Any particular keywords I need to look out for in their terms of service to gauge how safe my money is?

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 16 Nov 2021, 14:08 last edited by
            #82

            @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

            Kraken

            Oh no.

            I was only joking

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              mark
              wrote on 16 Nov 2021, 14:59 last edited by
              #83

              I just joined 89th and bought 1.9 million Shiba Inu coins. Come on baby! hit $1! lol

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              • D Doctor Phibes
                16 Nov 2021, 14:08

                @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                Kraken

                Oh no.

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                Klaus
                wrote on 16 Nov 2021, 15:08 last edited by
                #84

                @doctor-phibes said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                Kraken

                Oh no.

                It's no good?

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 16 Nov 2021, 15:14 last edited by
                  #85

                  Might I interest @Jolly @Improviso and @Larry in the Let’s Go Brandon currency?
                  4FB74F22-FA25-4D87-A73B-586235FAABFE.jpeg

                  The Brad

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                  • K Klaus
                    16 Nov 2021, 15:08

                    @doctor-phibes said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                    @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                    Kraken

                    Oh no.

                    It's no good?

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 16 Nov 2021, 15:29 last edited by
                    #86

                    @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                    @doctor-phibes said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                    @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                    Kraken

                    Oh no.

                    It's no good?

                    Dude, you've released the Kraken!

                    I was only joking

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                      Improviso
                      wrote on 16 Nov 2021, 17:54 last edited by
                      #87

                      @lufins-dad said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                      Might I interest @Jolly @Improviso and @Larry in the Let’s Go Brandon currency?

                      What kind of Ponzi scheme is this?

                      We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                      Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                      • K Klaus
                        15 Nov 2021, 18:37

                        I think I'll also diversify and buy a little Solana and Cardano, and maybe some Polkadot. Each of them has something that none of the others have.

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 18 Nov 2021, 15:34 last edited by
                        #88

                        @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                        I think I'll also diversify and buy a little Solana and Cardano, and maybe some Polkadot. Each of them has something that none of the others have.

                        What the hell did you do?! Solana is bouncing along all nice and average, Klaus buys some and POW! Straight down the crapper….

                        The Brad

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                          Ivorythumper
                          wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 15:19 last edited by
                          #89

                          the problem of decimalization

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                            21 Nov 2021, 15:19

                            the problem of decimalization

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                            Klaus
                            wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 16:09 last edited by
                            #90

                            @ivorythumper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                            the problem of decimalization

                            If Bitcoin continues to exist for the next few hundred years, we will see the reverse problem: A house costing 0.00000000001 Bitcoin or something. The amount of Bitcoin will soon start to shrink every year. Bitcoin that is lost can never return.

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                              xenon
                              wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 16:13 last edited by
                              #91

                              Anyone use tether when banking between coins?

                              Could be a bigger Ponzi scheme than madoff:

                              https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-10-07/crypto-mystery-where-s-the-69-billion-backing-the-stablecoin-tether

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                              • K Klaus
                                21 Nov 2021, 16:09

                                @ivorythumper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                the problem of decimalization

                                If Bitcoin continues to exist for the next few hundred years, we will see the reverse problem: A house costing 0.00000000001 Bitcoin or something. The amount of Bitcoin will soon start to shrink every year. Bitcoin that is lost can never return.

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                                Ivorythumper
                                wrote on 22 Nov 2021, 14:02 last edited by
                                #92

                                @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                @ivorythumper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                the problem of decimalization

                                If Bitcoin continues to exist for the next few hundred years, we will see the reverse problem: A house costing 0.00000000001 Bitcoin or something. The amount of Bitcoin will soon start to shrink every year. Bitcoin that is lost can never return.

                                Bitcoin (tm) is just one brand. There can be a whole lot of competitive ways to buy and sell with other alt coins, right? So if Shiba Inu is capitalized for 1,000,000,000,000,000 coins, and there are a couple of other dozen competitors, how does ever get to a useful money supply to peg to any hard currency?

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                                • I Ivorythumper
                                  22 Nov 2021, 14:02

                                  @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                  @ivorythumper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                  the problem of decimalization

                                  If Bitcoin continues to exist for the next few hundred years, we will see the reverse problem: A house costing 0.00000000001 Bitcoin or something. The amount of Bitcoin will soon start to shrink every year. Bitcoin that is lost can never return.

                                  Bitcoin (tm) is just one brand. There can be a whole lot of competitive ways to buy and sell with other alt coins, right? So if Shiba Inu is capitalized for 1,000,000,000,000,000 coins, and there are a couple of other dozen competitors, how does ever get to a useful money supply to peg to any hard currency?

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 22 Nov 2021, 14:36 last edited by
                                  #93

                                  @ivorythumper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                  @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                  @ivorythumper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                  the problem of decimalization

                                  If Bitcoin continues to exist for the next few hundred years, we will see the reverse problem: A house costing 0.00000000001 Bitcoin or something. The amount of Bitcoin will soon start to shrink every year. Bitcoin that is lost can never return.

                                  Bitcoin (tm) is just one brand. There can be a whole lot of competitive ways to buy and sell with other alt coins, right? So if Shiba Inu is capitalized for 1,000,000,000,000,000 coins, and there are a couple of other dozen competitors, how does ever get to a useful money supply to peg to any hard currency?

                                  Their are hundreds or even thousands of Credit Card/Charge Card systems. Most of the major ones are built off the Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and American Express platforms, but there are also innumerable retailers with their own unique platforms. Kohl’s, Macy’s, Target, and on, and on, and on…

                                  Ethereum and possibly Solana stand primed to be your Visa and MC platforms… Then you have other currencies built off of these platforms such as Cardano… These fill the slot that the individual banks fill such as Chase or Citibank. Many of these little alt coins are built for specific and limited use in different gaming or specialty platforms. These are comparable to your small retail cards for specific stores.

                                  There are several competing currencies and marketplaces to handle transactions and tying it to hard currencies.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • L LuFins Dad
                                    22 Nov 2021, 14:36

                                    @ivorythumper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                    @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                    @ivorythumper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                    the problem of decimalization

                                    If Bitcoin continues to exist for the next few hundred years, we will see the reverse problem: A house costing 0.00000000001 Bitcoin or something. The amount of Bitcoin will soon start to shrink every year. Bitcoin that is lost can never return.

                                    Bitcoin (tm) is just one brand. There can be a whole lot of competitive ways to buy and sell with other alt coins, right? So if Shiba Inu is capitalized for 1,000,000,000,000,000 coins, and there are a couple of other dozen competitors, how does ever get to a useful money supply to peg to any hard currency?

                                    Their are hundreds or even thousands of Credit Card/Charge Card systems. Most of the major ones are built off the Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and American Express platforms, but there are also innumerable retailers with their own unique platforms. Kohl’s, Macy’s, Target, and on, and on, and on…

                                    Ethereum and possibly Solana stand primed to be your Visa and MC platforms… Then you have other currencies built off of these platforms such as Cardano… These fill the slot that the individual banks fill such as Chase or Citibank. Many of these little alt coins are built for specific and limited use in different gaming or specialty platforms. These are comparable to your small retail cards for specific stores.

                                    There are several competing currencies and marketplaces to handle transactions and tying it to hard currencies.

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                                    xenon
                                    wrote on 22 Nov 2021, 16:17 last edited by
                                    #94

                                    @lufins-dad said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                    @ivorythumper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                    @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                    @ivorythumper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                    the problem of decimalization

                                    If Bitcoin continues to exist for the next few hundred years, we will see the reverse problem: A house costing 0.00000000001 Bitcoin or something. The amount of Bitcoin will soon start to shrink every year. Bitcoin that is lost can never return.

                                    Bitcoin (tm) is just one brand. There can be a whole lot of competitive ways to buy and sell with other alt coins, right? So if Shiba Inu is capitalized for 1,000,000,000,000,000 coins, and there are a couple of other dozen competitors, how does ever get to a useful money supply to peg to any hard currency?

                                    Their are hundreds or even thousands of Credit Card/Charge Card systems. Most of the major ones are built off the Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and American Express platforms, but there are also innumerable retailers with their own unique platforms. Kohl’s, Macy’s, Target, and on, and on, and on…

                                    Ethereum and possibly Solana stand primed to be your Visa and MC platforms… Then you have other currencies built off of these platforms such as Cardano… These fill the slot that the individual banks fill such as Chase or Citibank. Many of these little alt coins are built for specific and limited use in different gaming or specialty platforms. These are comparable to your small retail cards for specific stores.

                                    There are several competing currencies and marketplaces to handle transactions and tying it to hard currencies.

                                    I still don’t know what the pain points in the current MC/Visa platform are for consumers that crypto would solve.

                                    How would my life be different if Amazon and all other retailers accepted Future Coin?

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                                    • X xenon
                                      22 Nov 2021, 16:17

                                      @lufins-dad said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                      @ivorythumper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                      @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                      @ivorythumper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                      the problem of decimalization

                                      If Bitcoin continues to exist for the next few hundred years, we will see the reverse problem: A house costing 0.00000000001 Bitcoin or something. The amount of Bitcoin will soon start to shrink every year. Bitcoin that is lost can never return.

                                      Bitcoin (tm) is just one brand. There can be a whole lot of competitive ways to buy and sell with other alt coins, right? So if Shiba Inu is capitalized for 1,000,000,000,000,000 coins, and there are a couple of other dozen competitors, how does ever get to a useful money supply to peg to any hard currency?

                                      Their are hundreds or even thousands of Credit Card/Charge Card systems. Most of the major ones are built off the Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and American Express platforms, but there are also innumerable retailers with their own unique platforms. Kohl’s, Macy’s, Target, and on, and on, and on…

                                      Ethereum and possibly Solana stand primed to be your Visa and MC platforms… Then you have other currencies built off of these platforms such as Cardano… These fill the slot that the individual banks fill such as Chase or Citibank. Many of these little alt coins are built for specific and limited use in different gaming or specialty platforms. These are comparable to your small retail cards for specific stores.

                                      There are several competing currencies and marketplaces to handle transactions and tying it to hard currencies.

                                      I still don’t know what the pain points in the current MC/Visa platform are for consumers that crypto would solve.

                                      How would my life be different if Amazon and all other retailers accepted Future Coin?

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 22 Nov 2021, 16:18 last edited by
                                      #95

                                      @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                      @lufins-dad said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                      @ivorythumper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                      @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                      @ivorythumper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                      the problem of decimalization

                                      If Bitcoin continues to exist for the next few hundred years, we will see the reverse problem: A house costing 0.00000000001 Bitcoin or something. The amount of Bitcoin will soon start to shrink every year. Bitcoin that is lost can never return.

                                      Bitcoin (tm) is just one brand. There can be a whole lot of competitive ways to buy and sell with other alt coins, right? So if Shiba Inu is capitalized for 1,000,000,000,000,000 coins, and there are a couple of other dozen competitors, how does ever get to a useful money supply to peg to any hard currency?

                                      Their are hundreds or even thousands of Credit Card/Charge Card systems. Most of the major ones are built off the Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and American Express platforms, but there are also innumerable retailers with their own unique platforms. Kohl’s, Macy’s, Target, and on, and on, and on…

                                      Ethereum and possibly Solana stand primed to be your Visa and MC platforms… Then you have other currencies built off of these platforms such as Cardano… These fill the slot that the individual banks fill such as Chase or Citibank. Many of these little alt coins are built for specific and limited use in different gaming or specialty platforms. These are comparable to your small retail cards for specific stores.

                                      There are several competing currencies and marketplaces to handle transactions and tying it to hard currencies.

                                      I still don’t know what the pain points in the current MC/Visa platform are for consumers that crypto would solve.

                                      How would my life be different if Amazon and all other retailers accepted Future Coin?

                                      Well, instead of paying 16% interest you could be making 16% interest for one...

                                      The Brad

                                      X 1 Reply Last reply 22 Nov 2021, 16:20
                                      • L LuFins Dad
                                        22 Nov 2021, 16:18

                                        @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                        @lufins-dad said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                        @ivorythumper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                        @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                        @ivorythumper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                        the problem of decimalization

                                        If Bitcoin continues to exist for the next few hundred years, we will see the reverse problem: A house costing 0.00000000001 Bitcoin or something. The amount of Bitcoin will soon start to shrink every year. Bitcoin that is lost can never return.

                                        Bitcoin (tm) is just one brand. There can be a whole lot of competitive ways to buy and sell with other alt coins, right? So if Shiba Inu is capitalized for 1,000,000,000,000,000 coins, and there are a couple of other dozen competitors, how does ever get to a useful money supply to peg to any hard currency?

                                        Their are hundreds or even thousands of Credit Card/Charge Card systems. Most of the major ones are built off the Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and American Express platforms, but there are also innumerable retailers with their own unique platforms. Kohl’s, Macy’s, Target, and on, and on, and on…

                                        Ethereum and possibly Solana stand primed to be your Visa and MC platforms… Then you have other currencies built off of these platforms such as Cardano… These fill the slot that the individual banks fill such as Chase or Citibank. Many of these little alt coins are built for specific and limited use in different gaming or specialty platforms. These are comparable to your small retail cards for specific stores.

                                        There are several competing currencies and marketplaces to handle transactions and tying it to hard currencies.

                                        I still don’t know what the pain points in the current MC/Visa platform are for consumers that crypto would solve.

                                        How would my life be different if Amazon and all other retailers accepted Future Coin?

                                        Well, instead of paying 16% interest you could be making 16% interest for one...

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                                        xenon
                                        wrote on 22 Nov 2021, 16:20 last edited by xenon
                                        #96

                                        @lufins-dad said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                        @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                        @lufins-dad said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                        @ivorythumper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                        @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                        @ivorythumper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                        the problem of decimalization

                                        If Bitcoin continues to exist for the next few hundred years, we will see the reverse problem: A house costing 0.00000000001 Bitcoin or something. The amount of Bitcoin will soon start to shrink every year. Bitcoin that is lost can never return.

                                        Bitcoin (tm) is just one brand. There can be a whole lot of competitive ways to buy and sell with other alt coins, right? So if Shiba Inu is capitalized for 1,000,000,000,000,000 coins, and there are a couple of other dozen competitors, how does ever get to a useful money supply to peg to any hard currency?

                                        Their are hundreds or even thousands of Credit Card/Charge Card systems. Most of the major ones are built off the Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and American Express platforms, but there are also innumerable retailers with their own unique platforms. Kohl’s, Macy’s, Target, and on, and on, and on…

                                        Ethereum and possibly Solana stand primed to be your Visa and MC platforms… Then you have other currencies built off of these platforms such as Cardano… These fill the slot that the individual banks fill such as Chase or Citibank. Many of these little alt coins are built for specific and limited use in different gaming or specialty platforms. These are comparable to your small retail cards for specific stores.

                                        There are several competing currencies and marketplaces to handle transactions and tying it to hard currencies.

                                        I still don’t know what the pain points in the current MC/Visa platform are for consumers that crypto would solve.

                                        How would my life be different if Amazon and all other retailers accepted Future Coin?

                                        Well, instead of paying 16% interest you could be making 16% interest for one...

                                        I never pay any interest on cards but still use them for all my transactions. I use the cards for convenience and online transactions.

                                        I also don’t think pure coins would offer a credit platform - or if they did the incentives and prices wouldn’t be so different from current credit prices.

                                        But credit is a different mechanism from currency.

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                                          xenon
                                          wrote on 22 Nov 2021, 16:28 last edited by
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                                          The only advantage I hear for crypto is that it’s the payment tech of the future.

                                          But, modern credit card payments are all based on modern SW tech.

                                          Yeah - they don’t use a decentralized ledger, but has trustworthiness of the Visa / MC / Chase bank ledger been a problem for anyone here?

                                          There are also human-based mechanisms like disputes and chargebacks built into their process that provide utility.

                                          I just don’t know what the problem is that cryptocurrency is trying to solve.

                                          What’s the vision for any easy future? Cross-border transactions?

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