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The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread

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  • X xenon
    13 Nov 2021, 21:27

    I can understand the appeal of crypto in general - I don’t get the value of Bitcoin, specifically.

    Without being used for real transactions on any sort of scale, it already uses as much electricity as Argentina.

    There’s no path to make it (Bitcoin) substantially more efficient.

    I just don’t get it at all. I’m probably missing something.

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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on 14 Nov 2021, 02:41 last edited by
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    @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

    I can understand the appeal of crypto in general

    I dont see the appeal because I see it only being able to be used in very very very few areas.

    What is the appeal to you?

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    • T taiwan_girl
      14 Nov 2021, 02:41

      @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

      I can understand the appeal of crypto in general

      I dont see the appeal because I see it only being able to be used in very very very few areas.

      What is the appeal to you?

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      xenon
      wrote on 14 Nov 2021, 03:14 last edited by
      #73

      @taiwan_girl said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

      @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

      I can understand the appeal of crypto in general

      I dont see the appeal because I see it only being able to be used in very very very few areas.

      What is the appeal to you?

      Next to none for me. I can see how some other people may value it:
      -People in underbanked countries with volatile currencies, inflation or capital controls
      -Remittances

      It requires a currency to be stable and low transaction cost to really fit the bill (which a crypto could - be none are really there).

      My issue is with Bitcoin, specifically. It’s built on obsolete tech right now. The way the power dynamics work, the 6 entities that control 95% of transactions right now would have to accede to a new technical model (e.g. proof of stake). Doesn’t seem like there’s any chance of that happening.

      A couple of years ago it was the “lightning network” that was supposed to save Bitcoin.

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        Larry
        wrote on 14 Nov 2021, 17:37 last edited by
        #74

        This bitcoin shit sounds like some sort of video game.

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        • T taiwan_girl
          14 Nov 2021, 02:41

          @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

          I can understand the appeal of crypto in general

          I dont see the appeal because I see it only being able to be used in very very very few areas.

          What is the appeal to you?

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 15 Nov 2021, 14:15 last edited by
          #75

          @taiwan_girl said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

          @xenon said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

          I can understand the appeal of crypto in general

          I dont see the appeal because I see it only being able to be used in very very very few areas.

          What is the appeal to you?

          1. MUCH better security on web transactions. I mean by a factor of 10. I am pretty sure that web transactions aren’t going anywhere. The chances of fraud are basically nil. These days we can’t even trust cashiers checks.

          2. There are tiny little cash transactions in the movement of data across the web. A byte of information costs .000000000000000000018 cents to move. Crypto is a much better tool for monitoring and paying these micro transactions that ultimately add up to trillions of dollars.

          3. Billions of dollars every day are being spent every day on those little video game purchases. Crypto is by far the best tool for handling those transactions.

          The Brad

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 15 Nov 2021, 14:18 last edited by
            #76

            I doubled up on Solana again. Still using my “poker money”… I don’t know that I will ever put serious money into crypto but Solana seems like a pretty safe bet over the next 24-36 months and I’m willing to forgo getting takeout for lunch for the time being to see where it goes…

            The Brad

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              Klaus
              wrote on 15 Nov 2021, 18:37 last edited by
              #77

              I think I'll also diversify and buy a little Solana and Cardano, and maybe some Polkadot. Each of them has something that none of the others have.

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 15 Nov 2021, 18:46 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                #78

                I stopped off at the gas station and bought a scratch and sniff lottery card earlier today.

                It smelled of lost dreams.

                I was only joking

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                • K Klaus
                  15 Nov 2021, 18:37

                  I think I'll also diversify and buy a little Solana and Cardano, and maybe some Polkadot. Each of them has something that none of the others have.

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 15 Nov 2021, 19:07 last edited by
                  #79

                  @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                  I think I'll also diversify and buy a little Solana and Cardano, and maybe some Polkadot. Each of them has something that none of the others have.

                  Cardano is next week's lunch money. I've looked at Polkadot as well.

                  The Brad

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 16 Nov 2021, 13:14 last edited by
                    #80

                    Bad day for Crypto, lol. I may need to switch my purchasing from Monday to Tuesday…

                    The Brad

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                      Klaus
                      wrote on 16 Nov 2021, 13:52 last edited by
                      #81

                      I've opened an additional ccount at an US exchange, Kraken.

                      I wonder how safe the deposit there is. Over here, there's a kind of insurance that protects me from insolvency risk of the exchange or bank.

                      Any particular keywords I need to look out for in their terms of service to gauge how safe my money is?

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                      • K Klaus
                        16 Nov 2021, 13:52

                        I've opened an additional ccount at an US exchange, Kraken.

                        I wonder how safe the deposit there is. Over here, there's a kind of insurance that protects me from insolvency risk of the exchange or bank.

                        Any particular keywords I need to look out for in their terms of service to gauge how safe my money is?

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 16 Nov 2021, 14:08 last edited by
                        #82

                        @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                        Kraken

                        Oh no.

                        I was only joking

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                          mark
                          wrote on 16 Nov 2021, 14:59 last edited by
                          #83

                          I just joined 89th and bought 1.9 million Shiba Inu coins. Come on baby! hit $1! lol

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                          • D Doctor Phibes
                            16 Nov 2021, 14:08

                            @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                            Kraken

                            Oh no.

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                            Klaus
                            wrote on 16 Nov 2021, 15:08 last edited by
                            #84

                            @doctor-phibes said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                            @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                            Kraken

                            Oh no.

                            It's no good?

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 16 Nov 2021, 15:14 last edited by
                              #85

                              Might I interest @Jolly @Improviso and @Larry in the Let’s Go Brandon currency?
                              4FB74F22-FA25-4D87-A73B-586235FAABFE.jpeg

                              The Brad

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                              • K Klaus
                                16 Nov 2021, 15:08

                                @doctor-phibes said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                Kraken

                                Oh no.

                                It's no good?

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 16 Nov 2021, 15:29 last edited by
                                #86

                                @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                @doctor-phibes said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                Kraken

                                Oh no.

                                It's no good?

                                Dude, you've released the Kraken!

                                I was only joking

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                                  Improviso
                                  wrote on 16 Nov 2021, 17:54 last edited by
                                  #87

                                  @lufins-dad said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                  Might I interest @Jolly @Improviso and @Larry in the Let’s Go Brandon currency?

                                  What kind of Ponzi scheme is this?

                                  We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                                  Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                                  • K Klaus
                                    15 Nov 2021, 18:37

                                    I think I'll also diversify and buy a little Solana and Cardano, and maybe some Polkadot. Each of them has something that none of the others have.

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 18 Nov 2021, 15:34 last edited by
                                    #88

                                    @klaus said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                    I think I'll also diversify and buy a little Solana and Cardano, and maybe some Polkadot. Each of them has something that none of the others have.

                                    What the hell did you do?! Solana is bouncing along all nice and average, Klaus buys some and POW! Straight down the crapper….

                                    The Brad

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                                      Ivorythumper
                                      wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 15:19 last edited by
                                      #89

                                      the problem of decimalization

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                                      • I Ivorythumper
                                        21 Nov 2021, 15:19

                                        the problem of decimalization

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                                        Klaus
                                        wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 16:09 last edited by
                                        #90

                                        @ivorythumper said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                                        the problem of decimalization

                                        If Bitcoin continues to exist for the next few hundred years, we will see the reverse problem: A house costing 0.00000000001 Bitcoin or something. The amount of Bitcoin will soon start to shrink every year. Bitcoin that is lost can never return.

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                                          xenon
                                          wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 16:13 last edited by
                                          #91

                                          Anyone use tether when banking between coins?

                                          Could be a bigger Ponzi scheme than madoff:

                                          https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-10-07/crypto-mystery-where-s-the-69-billion-backing-the-stablecoin-tether

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