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The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread

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  • AxtremusA Away
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    Axtremus
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    #436

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/28/business/rainbowex-crypto-ponzi-scheme.html?unlocked_article_code=1.7k4.1E46.Om7LSXWGaMmo

    A close look into a cryptocurrency Ponzi scheme that took a town in Argentina, one of hundreds such schemes around the world.

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      https://www.pcworld.com/article/2767705/bitcoin-mining-is-no-longer-profitable.html

      ... the basic equation is that it now costs more in electricity to “mine” a single Bitcoin than that Bitcoin is currently worth—by a significant margin. Due to the nature of the Bitcoin protocol, which started the better part of two decades ago, it was inevitable that we’d reach this point eventually. The pool of minable Bitcoins shrinks as more are mined, and as that happens, the cryptographic work needed to “find” new ones becomes increasingly harder.

      Coinshares, via reporting from Overlclockers.ru and PCGamer, reports that we’re now past that point—well past it, in fact. The math says that mining a new Bitcoin in 2025 costs approximately $137,000 USD in electricity, even if you have the (very expensive) computer power to do it, while that Bitcoin is worth about $95,000 on the open market. Even at its all-time high of over $100,000 earlier this year, and assuming ideal conditions with access to cheap power and hardware, it’s a losing game.

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        #438

        That doesn't make sense to me. The difficulty of mining a Bitcoin is adjusted every two weeks to get a block time around every 10 mins. That should make that situation very unlikely and self-correct quickly. Also, I believe the miners get something extra from the transaction costs.

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          #439

          Yes there are transaction fees. They were always in the protocol but were never collected in the early days because mining was sufficiently profitable. They became meaningful around 10 years ago.

          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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            Klaus
            wrote on last edited by Klaus
            #440

            Yes, from what I understand, the transaction costs are going to become more and more important until they become the single source of income for miners (namely when the maximum number of bitcoins has been reached).

            In any case, I believe the protocol is self-adjusting in the sense that the situation above - mining more expensive than reward - self-corrects quickly.

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              #441

              https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2025/06/22/doomsday-scenario-bitcoin-suddenly-drops-under-100000-as-crypto-price-crash-fears-hit-ethereum-and-xrp/

              Bitcoin has plummeted sharply amid fears U.S involvement in the Israel-Iran conflict could escalate into a wider regional war (adding to volatility expected from an imminent Federal Reserve earthquake).

              The bitcoin price, after shrugging off the initial exchange of fire between Israel and Iran, has crashed under $100,000 per bitcoin despite U.S. president Donald Trump confirming a "massive" game-changer this week. Ethereum, XRP and other major cryptocurrencies have also plummeted, wiping $250 billion from the combined market in just 24 hours.

              My question - who cares? Unless you have a high amount invested in bitcoin, does it really matter? If it drops to lets say, USD $10000, will it have any effect on the world economy? For me, I dont think so.

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              • 89th8 Offline
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                Bitcoin above $114,000 today. I haven't checked my coinbase balance in a while (it'll be something I check in the 2030s and then maybe cash out) but checked today.... nothing crazy but since 2021 I'm up like 230%. Not too bad. I'm still waiting for SHIBU to go to the moon so I can retire early with @mark

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                • markM Offline
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                  wrote last edited by mark
                  #443

                  1000004892.jpg

                  Climb baby, climb!

                  I only have 134 million of them.

                  Just hit .0001 and I will be very happy.

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                    Bitcoin now at $117k

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                    • markM mark

                      1000004892.jpg

                      Climb baby, climb!

                      I only have 134 million of them.

                      Just hit .0001 and I will be very happy.

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                      #445

                      @mark said in The Bitcoin/Crypto Thread:

                      Just hit .0001 and I will be very happy.

                      Very happy!! I only have 23 million SHIB though.

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