The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha
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Is the twitverse exploding?
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Another president incites insurrection
Biden calls for calm but says Rittenhouse 'not guilty' verdict leaves him 'angry and concerned'
The president says Americans should protest 'peacefully'
President Biden called on Americans to protest "peacefully" and follow the law following the jury's verdict in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, which he said left him "angry and concerned."
"I urge everyone to express their views peacefully, consistent with the rule of law," Biden said in a statement ahead of expected protests. "Violence and destruction of property have no place in our democracy."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-calls-for-calm-in-wake-of-rittenhouse-not-guilty-verdict
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wrote on 20 Nov 2021, 00:07 last edited by Horace
Yeah the left hates American institutions that don't toe the leftist line. Such as an objectively just verdict that is at odds with leftist outrage. Our tribal leftist president is angry and concerned that an objectively just verdict didn't toe leftist outrage lines. Yeah, congratulations, welcome to America. It's the one the idiots wanted. At least the court made the right decision.
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Another president incites insurrection
Biden calls for calm but says Rittenhouse 'not guilty' verdict leaves him 'angry and concerned'
The president says Americans should protest 'peacefully'
President Biden called on Americans to protest "peacefully" and follow the law following the jury's verdict in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, which he said left him "angry and concerned."
"I urge everyone to express their views peacefully, consistent with the rule of law," Biden said in a statement ahead of expected protests. "Violence and destruction of property have no place in our democracy."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-calls-for-calm-in-wake-of-rittenhouse-not-guilty-verdict
wrote on 20 Nov 2021, 00:33 last edited by@copper said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
President Biden called on Americans to protest "peacefully" and follow the law following the jury's verdict in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, which he said left him "angry and concerned."
They should make their voice be heard!
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wrote on 20 Nov 2021, 03:21 last edited by
Watch Biden turn Justice loose on him.
The weapon meets the criteria for a straw purchase.
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wrote on 20 Nov 2021, 03:57 last edited by
Another "What if?" ... The mayor of Kenosha asked the governor for 500 National Guard. Trump offered the governor 2000 personnel.
The governor sent 250.
What if everybody compromised on 1000?
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@jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
The weapon meets the criteria for a straw purchase.
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Could he face civil penalties? I'm not sure how you establish that he was 51% at fault here when other guys were coming after him with guns.
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Could he face civil penalties? I'm not sure how you establish that he was 51% at fault here when other guys were coming after him with guns.
wrote on 20 Nov 2021, 14:18 last edited by@mik said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
Could he face civil penalties?
Considering he was found not guilty by reason of self defense, I'd say the probability of success in a civil suit would be slim to nil.
But I'm sure some sleazy lawyer out there will try.
Good luck with that. They better be prepared for a counter-suit.
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I expect cnn and msnbc will cover any legal bills he has.
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@jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
Watch Biden turn Justice loose on him.
The weapon meets the criteria for a straw purchase.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/kyle-rittenhouse-didnt-illegally-bring-043226324.html
Rittenhouse and his friend, Dominick Black, testified that Black, who was 18 at the time, used Rittenhouse's money to purchase the weapon at a Wisconsin hardware store in May 2020. The two reportedly agreed that Black would keep the gun until Rittenhouse turned 18 in January 2021, according to court testimony.
Black is now being prosecuted for participating in the illegal straw purchase of the weapon on behalf of Rittenhouse. But Rittenhouse's possession of the firearm at the time was technically legal.
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wrote on 20 Nov 2021, 19:29 last edited by
So I guess that means Rittenhouse isn’t getting it back… He better go get another, I’m afraid he will likely need it.
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@improviso said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
@mik said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
Could he face civil penalties?
Considering he was found not guilty by reason of self defense, I'd say the probability of success in a civil suit would be slim to nil.
Tell that to OJ.
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@improviso said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
@mik said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
Could he face civil penalties?
Considering he was found not guilty by reason of self defense, I'd say the probability of success in a civil suit would be slim to nil.
Tell that to OJ.
wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 19:47 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
@improviso said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
@mik said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
Could he face civil penalties?
Considering he was found not guilty by reason of self defense, I'd say the probability of success in a civil suit would be slim to nil.
Tell that to OJ.
Self-defense was never an argument for OJ. In this case we have pretty clear video showing over and over that Rittenhouse never fired until he was being threatened and attacked in EACH situation.
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wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 19:57 last edited by jon-nyc
That’s not the point. The point is that a not-guilty verdict doesn’t save you from civil liability, which is a much lower bar. I’d say the odds are better than even that Rittenhouse will lose at least one civil suit. Perhaps multiple.
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That’s not the point. The point is that a not-guilty verdict doesn’t save you from civil liability, which is a much lower bar. I’d say the odds are better than even that Rittenhouse will lose at least one civil suit. Perhaps multiple.
wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 20:01 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
Perhaps multiple.
Multiple being a number less than 4?
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I would presume, but the number of people with potential cases is not limited by the number of people be shot. Though obviously some relatives would have better cases than others.
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That’s not the point. The point is that a not-guilty verdict doesn’t save you from civil liability, which is a much lower bar. I’d say the odds are better than even that Rittenhouse will lose at least one civil suit. Perhaps multiple.
wrote on 21 Nov 2021, 20:42 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
That’s not the point. The point is that a not-guilty verdict doesn’t save you from civil liability, which is a much lower bar. I’d say the odds are better than even that Rittenhouse will lose at least one civil suit. Perhaps multiple.
There's no one who would have a legal standing to sue HIM civilly. The parents of those he shot would be the only ones with standing, but they lost that footing the moment their son made the decision to cause rittenhouse to need to defend himself. If you attack me and I kill you to stop you from harming me, your family can't turn around and sue me in civil court, especially if I've been found to have acted in self defense.
The only one with any standing in a civil suit is rittenhouse himself, not against the families of the ones who threatened him, but against those who lied about him and harmed his good name.
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Denver attorney Milo Schwab represents two of those who were shot.
“A criminal case and civil case are different, but we are reaching for larger questions,” he told CBS4’s Rick Sallinger in an interview before testimony in the criminal trial began.
His clients are the family of Joseph Rosenbaum, one of those who died as well as Gaige Grosskreutz who was wounded by Rittenhouse’s gun. He has already filed a lawsuit against Kenosha authorities and its police.
Following the not guilty verdict Schwab and co-counsel Kimberley Motley issued the following statement:
“Today we grieve for the families of those slain by Kyle Rittenhouse. Anthony Huber and Joseph Rosenbaum did not deserve to die that night. For now, we ask for peace from everyone hurting and that the public respect the privacy of the victims and their families. That night in Kenosha, Gaige Grosskreutz, Anthony Huber, and many others acted heroically. They did not seek violence, but to end violence. What we need right now is justice, not more violence. While today’s verdict may mean justice delayed, it will not mean justice denied. We are committed to uncovering the truth of that night and holding those responsible to account.”