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  • George KG George K

    @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

    Did any of these concerned assholes stop to think if there wasn't a riot, none of this would have happened...

    Of course not.

    But that argument is similar to Mrs. George's statement, "He shouldn't have been there."

    She's right, he shouldn't have.

    But, that's not a crime.

    Rioting is.

    GrossKreutz traveled about 80 miles to be there.

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    @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

    @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

    Did any of these concerned assholes stop to think if there wasn't a riot, none of this would have happened...

    Of course not.

    But that argument is similar to Mrs. George's statement, "He shouldn't have been there."

    She's right, he shouldn't have.

    But, that's not a crime.

    Rioting is.

    GrossKreutz traveled about 80 miles to be there.

    Do I think that there was a little part of Rittenhouse that was hoping somebody would try something? Yeah, I can see that. But that's not illegal, and it's certainly nigh on impossible to prove. At the same time I am sick of this "He shouldn't have been there" crap. Why not? Why shouldn't people be allowed and able to stand up to these protestors and say "No!"? We are actually denigrating, insulting, and convicting a kid that was handing out medical supplies, cleaning graffiti, and trying to protect a few buildings and businesses and at the same time we are glorifying a child molestor, an antifa jackass, a career violent criminal, and whatever was going on with the "paramedic".

    The Brad

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    • George KG George K

      @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

      This is the conversation that I just had with one of our piano technicians -

      "I can't believe they let that (bleeeeeeep) get away with it! Come on! WTF was he even doing there? He had no reason to be in Kenosha except to cause trouble! He didn't live there, he has no connection, he carried an illegal gun across state lines, and he"

      Me - "No he didn't."

      Him - "What?!"

      Me - "He have every reason to be there. His dad lives there, he spends half of his time in the city, he had a job in Kenosha which is why he was there those particular days. He never transported the gun as it was from a friend and stayed at his friend's house and it was a legal gun"

      Him - "Where did you hear all of that bullshit?"

      Me - "I read the nightly transcripts. Not the news, the actual trial."

      Him - "That's bullshit" and he storms off.

      Perfect. Just perfect.

      This is why I don't do politics on facebook.

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      @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

      @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

      This is the conversation that I just had with one of our piano technicians -

      "I can't believe they let that (bleeeeeeep) get away with it! Come on! WTF was he even doing there? He had no reason to be in Kenosha except to cause trouble! He didn't live there, he has no connection, he carried an illegal gun across state lines, and he"

      Me - "No he didn't."

      Him - "What?!"

      Me - "He have every reason to be there. His dad lives there, he spends half of his time in the city, he had a job in Kenosha which is why he was there those particular days. He never transported the gun as it was from a friend and stayed at his friend's house and it was a legal gun"

      Him - "Where did you hear all of that bullshit?"

      Me - "I read the nightly transcripts. Not the news, the actual trial."

      Him - "That's bullshit" and he storms off.

      Perfect. Just perfect.

      This is why I don't do politics on facebook.

      There are decent people on the other side of the argument. People that honestly believe what they are saying. Unfortunately, the culture has led the various "media" (I don't necessarily mean journalists, just sources of information) to so badly misinform everybody on both sides that there is no reconciliation on these issues that are even possible.

      We're done. I am firmly convinced that we have passed a line that we can't go back to.

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

        @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

        This is the conversation that I just had with one of our piano technicians -

        "I can't believe they let that (bleeeeeeep) get away with it! Come on! WTF was he even doing there? He had no reason to be in Kenosha except to cause trouble! He didn't live there, he has no connection, he carried an illegal gun across state lines, and he"

        Me - "No he didn't."

        Him - "What?!"

        Me - "He have every reason to be there. His dad lives there, he spends half of his time in the city, he had a job in Kenosha which is why he was there those particular days. He never transported the gun as it was from a friend and stayed at his friend's house and it was a legal gun"

        Him - "Where did you hear all of that bullshit?"

        Me - "I read the nightly transcripts. Not the news, the actual trial."

        Him - "That's bullshit" and he storms off.

        Perfect. Just perfect.

        This is why I don't do politics on facebook.

        There are decent people on the other side of the argument. People that honestly believe what they are saying. Unfortunately, the culture has led the various "media" (I don't necessarily mean journalists, just sources of information) to so badly misinform everybody on both sides that there is no reconciliation on these issues that are even possible.

        We're done. I am firmly convinced that we have passed a line that we can't go back to.

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        Copper
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        #206

        @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

        We're done. I am firmly convinced that we have passed a line that we can't go back to.

        There are some news stories, on which we can all agree

        Most of us here remember this

        ![alt text](4cfdf6df-c600-4b45-9b3b-86a32bdc1ec6-image.png image url)

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        • CopperC Copper

          @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

          We're done. I am firmly convinced that we have passed a line that we can't go back to.

          There are some news stories, on which we can all agree

          Most of us here remember this

          ![alt text](4cfdf6df-c600-4b45-9b3b-86a32bdc1ec6-image.png image url)

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          @copper said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

          @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

          We're done. I am firmly convinced that we have passed a line that we can't go back to.

          There are some news stories, on which we can all agree

          Most of us here remember this

          ![alt text](4cfdf6df-c600-4b45-9b3b-86a32bdc1ec6-image.png image url)

          Most of the people preparing to riot don’t have any idea what that is referencing.

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

            @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

            Did any of these concerned assholes stop to think if there wasn't a riot, none of this would have happened...

            Of course not.

            But that argument is similar to Mrs. George's statement, "He shouldn't have been there."

            She's right, he shouldn't have.

            But, that's not a crime.

            Rioting is.

            GrossKreutz traveled about 80 miles to be there.

            Do I think that there was a little part of Rittenhouse that was hoping somebody would try something? Yeah, I can see that. But that's not illegal, and it's certainly nigh on impossible to prove. At the same time I am sick of this "He shouldn't have been there" crap. Why not? Why shouldn't people be allowed and able to stand up to these protestors and say "No!"? We are actually denigrating, insulting, and convicting a kid that was handing out medical supplies, cleaning graffiti, and trying to protect a few buildings and businesses and at the same time we are glorifying a child molestor, an antifa jackass, a career violent criminal, and whatever was going on with the "paramedic".

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            @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:(/post/126059):

            At the same time I am sick of this "He shouldn't have been there" crap. Why not?

            He was there for the same reason the protesters were - to try on and act out an heroic self-image, and to participate in historic events.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              Gotta love the Bee:

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              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:(/post/126059):

                At the same time I am sick of this "He shouldn't have been there" crap. Why not?

                He was there for the same reason the protesters were - to try on and act out an heroic self-image, and to participate in historic events.

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                @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:(/post/126059):

                At the same time I am sick of this "He shouldn't have been there" crap. Why not?

                He was there for the same reason the protesters were - to try on and act out an heroic self-image, and to participate in historic events.

                That is a perfect answer.

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                  @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:(/post/126059):

                  At the same time I am sick of this "He shouldn't have been there" crap. Why not?

                  He was there for the same reason the protesters were - to try on and act out an heroic self-image, and to participate in historic events.

                  That is a perfect answer.

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                  George K
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                  #211

                  @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                  @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                  @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:(/post/126059):

                  At the same time I am sick of this "He shouldn't have been there" crap. Why not?

                  He was there for the same reason the protesters were - to try on and act out an heroic self-image, and to participate in historic events.

                  That is a perfect answer.

                  Post of the day.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Horace
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                    #212

                    If I had written that everybody would have ignored it. But when a white male writes it, it's some great insight. Typical.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      If I had written that everybody would have ignored it. But when a white male writes it, it's some great insight. Typical.

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                      @horace said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                      If I had written that everybody would have ignored it. But when a white male writes it, it's some great insight. Typical.

                      "Wisconsin - we're whiter than white!"

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        @horace said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                        If I had written that everybody would have ignored it. But when a white male writes it, it's some great insight. Typical.

                        "Wisconsin - we're whiter than white!"

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                        @mik said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                        "Wisconsin - we're whiter than white!"

                        See? There's your problem, right there.

                        If you were really, really, from Wisconsin, you'd call yourself "Sconnies."

                        It's like where D2 used to live. You don't say "West Allis." You say, "Stallis."

                        But, it's Friday night, and there are no fish-frys here in the Chicago 'burbs, so...whatever.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          Is the twitverse exploding?

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                          @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                          Is the twitverse exploding?

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            Another president incites insurrection

                            Biden calls for calm but says Rittenhouse 'not guilty' verdict leaves him 'angry and concerned'

                            The president says Americans should protest 'peacefully'

                            President Biden called on Americans to protest "peacefully" and follow the law following the jury's verdict in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, which he said left him "angry and concerned."

                            "I urge everyone to express their views peacefully, consistent with the rule of law," Biden said in a statement ahead of expected protests. "Violence and destruction of property have no place in our democracy."

                            https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-calls-for-calm-in-wake-of-rittenhouse-not-guilty-verdict

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                              Yeah the left hates American institutions that don't toe the leftist line. Such as an objectively just verdict that is at odds with leftist outrage. Our tribal leftist president is angry and concerned that an objectively just verdict didn't toe leftist outrage lines. Yeah, congratulations, welcome to America. It's the one the idiots wanted. At least the court made the right decision.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • CopperC Copper

                                Another president incites insurrection

                                Biden calls for calm but says Rittenhouse 'not guilty' verdict leaves him 'angry and concerned'

                                The president says Americans should protest 'peacefully'

                                President Biden called on Americans to protest "peacefully" and follow the law following the jury's verdict in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, which he said left him "angry and concerned."

                                "I urge everyone to express their views peacefully, consistent with the rule of law," Biden said in a statement ahead of expected protests. "Violence and destruction of property have no place in our democracy."

                                https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-calls-for-calm-in-wake-of-rittenhouse-not-guilty-verdict

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                                @copper said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                President Biden called on Americans to protest "peacefully" and follow the law following the jury's verdict in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, which he said left him "angry and concerned."

                                They should make their voice be heard!

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Watch Biden turn Justice loose on him.

                                  The weapon meets the criteria for a straw purchase.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Another "What if?" ... The mayor of Kenosha asked the governor for 500 National Guard. Trump offered the governor 2000 personnel.

                                    The governor sent 250.

                                    What if everybody compromised on 1000?

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      Watch Biden turn Justice loose on him.

                                      The weapon meets the criteria for a straw purchase.

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                                      @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                      The weapon meets the criteria for a straw purchase.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Could he face civil penalties? I'm not sure how you establish that he was 51% at fault here when other guys were coming after him with guns.

                                        https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kyle-rittenhouse-face-civil-penalties-acquittals-kenosha-deaths-rcna6207

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          Could he face civil penalties? I'm not sure how you establish that he was 51% at fault here when other guys were coming after him with guns.

                                          https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kyle-rittenhouse-face-civil-penalties-acquittals-kenosha-deaths-rcna6207

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                                          @mik said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                          Could he face civil penalties?

                                          Considering he was found not guilty by reason of self defense, I'd say the probability of success in a civil suit would be slim to nil.

                                          But I'm sure some sleazy lawyer out there will try.

                                          Good luck with that. They better be prepared for a counter-suit.

                                          We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                                          Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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