The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha
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wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 21:13 last edited by
Oh, Greenwald got one thing wrong. I think the gun charge was dismissed because the statute is so vague. The judge said something to the effect of, "If I can't understand the law, how can we expect the citizen to get it?"
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wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 21:28 last edited by
Did any of these concerned assholes stop to think if there wasn't a riot, none of this would have happened...
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Did any of these concerned assholes stop to think if there wasn't a riot, none of this would have happened...
wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 21:33 last edited by@jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
Did any of these concerned assholes stop to think if there wasn't a riot, none of this would have happened...
Of course not.
But that argument is similar to Mrs. George's statement, "He shouldn't have been there."
She's right, he shouldn't have.
But, that's not a crime.
Rioting is.
GrossKreutz traveled about 80 miles to be there.
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wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 21:43 last edited by
This is the conversation that I just had with one of our piano technicians -
"I can't believe they let that (bleeeeeeep) get away with it! Come on! WTF was he even doing there? He had no reason to be in Kenosha except to cause trouble! He didn't live there, he has no connection, he carried an illegal gun across state lines, and he"
Me - "No he didn't."
Him - "What?!"
Me - "He have every reason to be there. His dad lives there, he spends half of his time in the city, he had a job in Kenosha which is why he was there those particular days. He never transported the gun as it was from a friend and stayed at his friend's house and it was a legal gun"
Him - "Where did you hear all of that bullshit?"
Me - "I read the nightly transcripts. Not the news, the actual trial."
Him - "That's bullshit" and he storms off.
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This is the conversation that I just had with one of our piano technicians -
"I can't believe they let that (bleeeeeeep) get away with it! Come on! WTF was he even doing there? He had no reason to be in Kenosha except to cause trouble! He didn't live there, he has no connection, he carried an illegal gun across state lines, and he"
Me - "No he didn't."
Him - "What?!"
Me - "He have every reason to be there. His dad lives there, he spends half of his time in the city, he had a job in Kenosha which is why he was there those particular days. He never transported the gun as it was from a friend and stayed at his friend's house and it was a legal gun"
Him - "Where did you hear all of that bullshit?"
Me - "I read the nightly transcripts. Not the news, the actual trial."
Him - "That's bullshit" and he storms off.
wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 21:49 last edited by@lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
This is the conversation that I just had with one of our piano technicians -
"I can't believe they let that (bleeeeeeep) get away with it! Come on! WTF was he even doing there? He had no reason to be in Kenosha except to cause trouble! He didn't live there, he has no connection, he carried an illegal gun across state lines, and he"
Me - "No he didn't."
Him - "What?!"
Me - "He have every reason to be there. His dad lives there, he spends half of his time in the city, he had a job in Kenosha which is why he was there those particular days. He never transported the gun as it was from a friend and stayed at his friend's house and it was a legal gun"
Him - "Where did you hear all of that bullshit?"
Me - "I read the nightly transcripts. Not the news, the actual trial."
Him - "That's bullshit" and he storms off.
Perfect. Just perfect.
This is why I don't do politics on facebook.
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@jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
Did any of these concerned assholes stop to think if there wasn't a riot, none of this would have happened...
Of course not.
But that argument is similar to Mrs. George's statement, "He shouldn't have been there."
She's right, he shouldn't have.
But, that's not a crime.
Rioting is.
GrossKreutz traveled about 80 miles to be there.
wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 21:50 last edited by@george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
@jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
Did any of these concerned assholes stop to think if there wasn't a riot, none of this would have happened...
Of course not.
But that argument is similar to Mrs. George's statement, "He shouldn't have been there."
She's right, he shouldn't have.
But, that's not a crime.
Rioting is.
GrossKreutz traveled about 80 miles to be there.
Do I think that there was a little part of Rittenhouse that was hoping somebody would try something? Yeah, I can see that. But that's not illegal, and it's certainly nigh on impossible to prove. At the same time I am sick of this "He shouldn't have been there" crap. Why not? Why shouldn't people be allowed and able to stand up to these protestors and say "No!"? We are actually denigrating, insulting, and convicting a kid that was handing out medical supplies, cleaning graffiti, and trying to protect a few buildings and businesses and at the same time we are glorifying a child molestor, an antifa jackass, a career violent criminal, and whatever was going on with the "paramedic".
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@lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
This is the conversation that I just had with one of our piano technicians -
"I can't believe they let that (bleeeeeeep) get away with it! Come on! WTF was he even doing there? He had no reason to be in Kenosha except to cause trouble! He didn't live there, he has no connection, he carried an illegal gun across state lines, and he"
Me - "No he didn't."
Him - "What?!"
Me - "He have every reason to be there. His dad lives there, he spends half of his time in the city, he had a job in Kenosha which is why he was there those particular days. He never transported the gun as it was from a friend and stayed at his friend's house and it was a legal gun"
Him - "Where did you hear all of that bullshit?"
Me - "I read the nightly transcripts. Not the news, the actual trial."
Him - "That's bullshit" and he storms off.
Perfect. Just perfect.
This is why I don't do politics on facebook.
wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 21:53 last edited by@george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
@lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
This is the conversation that I just had with one of our piano technicians -
"I can't believe they let that (bleeeeeeep) get away with it! Come on! WTF was he even doing there? He had no reason to be in Kenosha except to cause trouble! He didn't live there, he has no connection, he carried an illegal gun across state lines, and he"
Me - "No he didn't."
Him - "What?!"
Me - "He have every reason to be there. His dad lives there, he spends half of his time in the city, he had a job in Kenosha which is why he was there those particular days. He never transported the gun as it was from a friend and stayed at his friend's house and it was a legal gun"
Him - "Where did you hear all of that bullshit?"
Me - "I read the nightly transcripts. Not the news, the actual trial."
Him - "That's bullshit" and he storms off.
Perfect. Just perfect.
This is why I don't do politics on facebook.
There are decent people on the other side of the argument. People that honestly believe what they are saying. Unfortunately, the culture has led the various "media" (I don't necessarily mean journalists, just sources of information) to so badly misinform everybody on both sides that there is no reconciliation on these issues that are even possible.
We're done. I am firmly convinced that we have passed a line that we can't go back to.
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@george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
@lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
This is the conversation that I just had with one of our piano technicians -
"I can't believe they let that (bleeeeeeep) get away with it! Come on! WTF was he even doing there? He had no reason to be in Kenosha except to cause trouble! He didn't live there, he has no connection, he carried an illegal gun across state lines, and he"
Me - "No he didn't."
Him - "What?!"
Me - "He have every reason to be there. His dad lives there, he spends half of his time in the city, he had a job in Kenosha which is why he was there those particular days. He never transported the gun as it was from a friend and stayed at his friend's house and it was a legal gun"
Him - "Where did you hear all of that bullshit?"
Me - "I read the nightly transcripts. Not the news, the actual trial."
Him - "That's bullshit" and he storms off.
Perfect. Just perfect.
This is why I don't do politics on facebook.
There are decent people on the other side of the argument. People that honestly believe what they are saying. Unfortunately, the culture has led the various "media" (I don't necessarily mean journalists, just sources of information) to so badly misinform everybody on both sides that there is no reconciliation on these issues that are even possible.
We're done. I am firmly convinced that we have passed a line that we can't go back to.
wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 22:05 last edited by Copper@lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
We're done. I am firmly convinced that we have passed a line that we can't go back to.
There are some news stories, on which we can all agree
Most of us here remember this
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@lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
We're done. I am firmly convinced that we have passed a line that we can't go back to.
There are some news stories, on which we can all agree
Most of us here remember this
wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 22:07 last edited by@copper said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
@lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
We're done. I am firmly convinced that we have passed a line that we can't go back to.
There are some news stories, on which we can all agree
Most of us here remember this
Most of the people preparing to riot don’t have any idea what that is referencing.
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@george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
@jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
Did any of these concerned assholes stop to think if there wasn't a riot, none of this would have happened...
Of course not.
But that argument is similar to Mrs. George's statement, "He shouldn't have been there."
She's right, he shouldn't have.
But, that's not a crime.
Rioting is.
GrossKreutz traveled about 80 miles to be there.
Do I think that there was a little part of Rittenhouse that was hoping somebody would try something? Yeah, I can see that. But that's not illegal, and it's certainly nigh on impossible to prove. At the same time I am sick of this "He shouldn't have been there" crap. Why not? Why shouldn't people be allowed and able to stand up to these protestors and say "No!"? We are actually denigrating, insulting, and convicting a kid that was handing out medical supplies, cleaning graffiti, and trying to protect a few buildings and businesses and at the same time we are glorifying a child molestor, an antifa jackass, a career violent criminal, and whatever was going on with the "paramedic".
wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 22:14 last edited by@lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:(/post/126059):
At the same time I am sick of this "He shouldn't have been there" crap. Why not?
He was there for the same reason the protesters were - to try on and act out an heroic self-image, and to participate in historic events.
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wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 22:15 last edited by
Gotta love the Bee:
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@lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:(/post/126059):
At the same time I am sick of this "He shouldn't have been there" crap. Why not?
He was there for the same reason the protesters were - to try on and act out an heroic self-image, and to participate in historic events.
wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 22:59 last edited by@jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
@lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:(/post/126059):
At the same time I am sick of this "He shouldn't have been there" crap. Why not?
He was there for the same reason the protesters were - to try on and act out an heroic self-image, and to participate in historic events.
That is a perfect answer.
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@jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
@lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:(/post/126059):
At the same time I am sick of this "He shouldn't have been there" crap. Why not?
He was there for the same reason the protesters were - to try on and act out an heroic self-image, and to participate in historic events.
That is a perfect answer.
wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 23:05 last edited by@lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
@jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
@lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:(/post/126059):
At the same time I am sick of this "He shouldn't have been there" crap. Why not?
He was there for the same reason the protesters were - to try on and act out an heroic self-image, and to participate in historic events.
That is a perfect answer.
Post of the day.
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wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 23:06 last edited by
If I had written that everybody would have ignored it. But when a white male writes it, it's some great insight. Typical.
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If I had written that everybody would have ignored it. But when a white male writes it, it's some great insight. Typical.
wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 23:10 last edited by@horace said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
If I had written that everybody would have ignored it. But when a white male writes it, it's some great insight. Typical.
"Wisconsin - we're whiter than white!"
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@horace said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
If I had written that everybody would have ignored it. But when a white male writes it, it's some great insight. Typical.
"Wisconsin - we're whiter than white!"
wrote on 19 Nov 2021, 23:18 last edited by@mik said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
"Wisconsin - we're whiter than white!"
See? There's your problem, right there.
If you were really, really, from Wisconsin, you'd call yourself "Sconnies."
It's like where D2 used to live. You don't say "West Allis." You say, "Stallis."
But, it's Friday night, and there are no fish-frys here in the Chicago 'burbs, so...whatever.
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Is the twitverse exploding?
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wrote on 20 Nov 2021, 00:00 last edited by
Another president incites insurrection
Biden calls for calm but says Rittenhouse 'not guilty' verdict leaves him 'angry and concerned'
The president says Americans should protest 'peacefully'
President Biden called on Americans to protest "peacefully" and follow the law following the jury's verdict in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, which he said left him "angry and concerned."
"I urge everyone to express their views peacefully, consistent with the rule of law," Biden said in a statement ahead of expected protests. "Violence and destruction of property have no place in our democracy."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-calls-for-calm-in-wake-of-rittenhouse-not-guilty-verdict
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wrote on 20 Nov 2021, 00:07 last edited by Horace
Yeah the left hates American institutions that don't toe the leftist line. Such as an objectively just verdict that is at odds with leftist outrage. Our tribal leftist president is angry and concerned that an objectively just verdict didn't toe leftist outrage lines. Yeah, congratulations, welcome to America. It's the one the idiots wanted. At least the court made the right decision.
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Another president incites insurrection
Biden calls for calm but says Rittenhouse 'not guilty' verdict leaves him 'angry and concerned'
The president says Americans should protest 'peacefully'
President Biden called on Americans to protest "peacefully" and follow the law following the jury's verdict in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, which he said left him "angry and concerned."
"I urge everyone to express their views peacefully, consistent with the rule of law," Biden said in a statement ahead of expected protests. "Violence and destruction of property have no place in our democracy."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-calls-for-calm-in-wake-of-rittenhouse-not-guilty-verdict
wrote on 20 Nov 2021, 00:33 last edited by@copper said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
President Biden called on Americans to protest "peacefully" and follow the law following the jury's verdict in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, which he said left him "angry and concerned."
They should make their voice be heard!