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  • HoraceH Horace

    More of a depressing truth-bomb, depressing mostly because the culture won't/can't see it and the indoctrination against seeing it progresses unabated.

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    Jolly
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    @horace said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

    More of a depressing truth-bomb, depressing mostly because the culture won't/can't see it and the indoctrination against seeing it progresses unabated.

    Depressing truth-bomb?

    Yeah, you're right...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • George KG Offline
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      Kenosha "Hero" identified.

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10217197/Jump-kick-man-filmed-kicking-Kyle-Rittenhouse-head-revealed.html

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        #151

        The kid shouldn't have missed...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          The kid shouldn't have missed...

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          @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

          The kid shouldn't have missed...

          The left wistfully imagines if that guy had been shot and killed, instead.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #153

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              LuFins Dad
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              #154

              And there is your mistrial…

              The Brad

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                LuFins Dad
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                https://www.nbc15.com/2021/11/18/msnbc-banned-rittenhouse-trial/

                The Brad

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                  Also, a major issue is the low-quality video proffered to the defense, when the state had the original hi-def video.

                  Go full screen and look at the difference.

                  Why didn't the state give the original video to the defense?

                  Link to video

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Dismiss with prejudice, let the idiots riot, and let the masses of indoctrinated idiots ignore the riots.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      By the way, this is a fun live-stream of 9 lawyers talking about the trial:

                      Link to video

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        Dismiss with prejudice, let the idiots riot, and let the masses of indoctrinated idiots ignore the riots.

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                        @horace said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                        Dismiss with prejudice, let the idiots riot, and let the masses of indoctrinated idiots ignore the riots.

                        Amen.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          https://www.nbc15.com/2021/11/18/msnbc-banned-rittenhouse-trial/

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                          @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                          https://www.nbc15.com/2021/11/18/msnbc-banned-rittenhouse-trial/

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @horace said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                            Dismiss with prejudice, let the idiots riot, and let the masses of indoctrinated idiots ignore the riots.

                            Amen.

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                            @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                            @horace said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                            Dismiss with prejudice, let the idiots riot, and let the masses of indoctrinated idiots ignore the riots.

                            Amen.

                            I believe the judge is waiting to see if the jury gets the verdict right. And if they don't, he will take the heat and declare a mistrial.

                            We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                            Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                              @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                              @horace said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                              Dismiss with prejudice, let the idiots riot, and let the masses of indoctrinated idiots ignore the riots.

                              Amen.

                              I believe the judge is waiting to see if the jury gets the verdict right. And if they don't, he will take the heat and declare a mistrial.

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                              @improviso said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                              @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                              @horace said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:
                              

                              Dismiss with prejudice, let the idiots riot, and let the masses of indoctrinated idiots ignore the riots.

                              Amen.

                              I believe the judge is waiting to see if the jury gets the verdict right. And if they don't, he will take the heat and declare a mistrial.

                              Ask your nearest progressive and they'll tell you that it's super important that our judges be "diverse", by which they mean the indoctrinated, reliable kind of "diverse". A judge who would definitely see this case very differently from this judge.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                And I predict that if the jury comes in with even one guilty verdict, the judge will interview every jurist (probably in chambers) to see if one or more of them felt intimidated to reach the verdict they did, either by the activities outside the courtroom or of their fear as to what could happen in their community if they returned a not guilty verdict, he will declare a mistrial with prejudice.

                                We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                                Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                  https://www.nbc15.com/2021/11/18/msnbc-banned-rittenhouse-trial/

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                                  @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                  @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                  https://www.nbc15.com/2021/11/18/msnbc-banned-rittenhouse-trial/

                                  @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                  @lufins-dad said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                  https://www.nbc15.com/2021/11/18/msnbc-banned-rittenhouse-trial/

                                  Just no.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Jolly
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                                    Irene Byon has now 86'd her Twitter and Linked-in accounts.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Stupid question, but wouldn’t a mistrial at this point be bad for Kyle? Seems the not guilty verdict is imminent.

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                                        #167

                                        Hung jury is bad for him because they re-try him.

                                        Seems just as likely as acquittal given 3 days of deliberation

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          My understanding is that a key point is determining if he provoked the first person who came at him. Supposedly under Wisconsin law if the attack were unprovoked, his use of deadly force to protect himself could be justified. On the other hand, if he taunted or did something to provoke an attack, then he's on the hook for the shooting. The fact that the jury was closely examining the video to determine if he provoked the assault says they're focusing on a significant component of the evidence.

                                          Most of us do some pretty stupid or at least ill-advised things in our teens. This kid is really paying for it.

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