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  • George KG George K

    I just listened to Andy McCarthy's podcast on this.

    There's one interesting comment: The guy who survived, Grosskreutz, pointed a handgun at Rittenhouse (which he denies on TV but admits under oath). His permit for such weapon was expired and therefore it was illegal.

    McCarthy asks (rhetorically, I assume): Why isn't the state prosecuting him for a gun crime?

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    @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

    I just listened to Andy McCarthy's podcast on this.

    There's one interesting comment: The guy who survived, Grosskreutz, pointed a handgun at Rittenhouse (which he denies on TV but admits under oath). His permit for such weapon was expired and therefore it was illegal.

    McCarthy asks (rhetorically, I assume): Why isn't the state prosecuting him for a gun crime?

    http://www.kenoshacountyeye.com/gaige.pdf

    This was expunged. But at the time of the shooting, I think he was still a felon, which definitely makes the gun illegal.

    http://www.kenoshacountyeye.com/gaigeburgcomp.pdf

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        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          @George-K I think I’ve only seen that guy’s name here and it was a discussion about him making shit up out of whole cloth.

          I apologize in advance if I have the name wrong.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @George-K I think I’ve only seen that guy’s name here and it was a discussion about him making shit up out of whole cloth.

            I apologize in advance if I have the name wrong.

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            @jon-nyc Posobiec?

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            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Yeah

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                Not to worry whether this entirely plausible thing might be true. not to worry that a little reflection would lead any reasonable person to conclude that retribution is on the mind of every one of those jurors, regardless of how much weight they try to give it. You are a centrist, and do not have to own anything having to do with either political side.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Yeah

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                  @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                  Yeah

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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    @Horace

                    It’s far more plausible that jurors are worried about it than that this serial fabulist and attention seeker has the “inside scoop”.

                    Sometimes black people get targeted for their race. Doesn’t change the fact that Jessie Smollett was talking shit for clicks and status.

                    As a centrist I have the special ability to zoom out a tenth of a nanometer to realize this OANN pilgrim is likely doing the same thing.

                    Horace 1.0 would have seen it too.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      @Horace

                      It’s far more plausible that jurors are worried about it than that this serial fabulist and attention seeker has the “inside scoop”.

                      Sometimes black people get targeted for their race. Doesn’t change the fact that Jessie Smollett was talking shit for clicks and status.

                      As a centrist I have the special ability to zoom out a tenth of a nanometer to realize this OANN pilgrim is likely doing the same thing.

                      Horace 1.0 would have seen it too.

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                      @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                      @Horace

                      It’s far more plausible that jurors are worried about it than that this serial fabulist and attention seeker has the “inside scoop”.

                      Sometimes black people get targeted for their race. Doesn’t change the fact that Jessie Smollett was talking shit for clicks and status.

                      As a centrist I have the special ability to zoom out a tenth of a nanometer to realize this OANN pilgrim is likely doing the same thing.

                      Horace 1.0 would have seen it too.

                      I didn't claim he was speaking the truth. Pre-TDS jon 1.0 had better reading comprehension than that. My point was the plausibility and the conclusions that would be drawn by a reasonable person about retribution being on the mind of the jurors. jon 1.0 might have been willing to engage in that discussion, rather than running from something that makes his tribe look bad.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        #112

                        Yeah I’m really invested in making sure BLM activists don’t come off as intimidating jurors.

                        That should be obvious to everyone who watched me reflexively defend them from Furguson to Portland.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @Horace

                          It’s far more plausible that jurors are worried about it than that this serial fabulist and attention seeker has the “inside scoop”.

                          Sometimes black people get targeted for their race. Doesn’t change the fact that Jessie Smollett was talking shit for clicks and status.

                          As a centrist I have the special ability to zoom out a tenth of a nanometer to realize this OANN pilgrim is likely doing the same thing.

                          Horace 1.0 would have seen it too.

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                          @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                          serial fabulist (Pobosiec)

                          I really know nothing about this guy.

                          Care to elaborate on the "serial" stuff?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            I remember last time he had some great inside scoop and it turned out to be bullshit it came out in the discussion here that he does this stuff a lot. He works/worked at OANN, so that's a feature not a bug in terms of his career.

                            But I don't remember all the details, I'm sure google does.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              Yeah I’m really invested in making sure BLM activists don’t come off as intimidating jurors.

                              That should be obvious to everyone who watched me reflexively defend them from Furguson to Portland.

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                              @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                              Yeah I’m really invested in making sure BLM activists don’t come off as intimidating jurors.

                              That should be obvious to everyone who watched me reflexively defend them from Furguson to Portland.

                              I bet you've even catalogued in your head that one time you said something negative about the Biden administration.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • HoraceH Horace

                                @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                @Horace

                                It’s far more plausible that jurors are worried about it than that this serial fabulist and attention seeker has the “inside scoop”.

                                Sometimes black people get targeted for their race. Doesn’t change the fact that Jessie Smollett was talking shit for clicks and status.

                                As a centrist I have the special ability to zoom out a tenth of a nanometer to realize this OANN pilgrim is likely doing the same thing.

                                Horace 1.0 would have seen it too.

                                I didn't claim he was speaking the truth. Pre-TDS jon 1.0 had better reading comprehension than that. My point was the plausibility and the conclusions that would be drawn by a reasonable person about retribution being on the mind of the jurors. jon 1.0 might have been willing to engage in that discussion, rather than running from something that makes his tribe look bad.

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                                @horace said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                My point was the plausibility and the conclusions that would be drawn by a reasonable person about retribution being on the mind of the jurors. jon 1.0 might have been willing to engage in that discussion, rather than running from something that makes his tribe look bad.

                                By the way, I have a 12 year old so I am fully aware of the lure of "I know you are but what am I". But not only am I willing to engage in discussions of the possibility, I said as much in the post you are responding to.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @horace said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                  My point was the plausibility and the conclusions that would be drawn by a reasonable person about retribution being on the mind of the jurors. jon 1.0 might have been willing to engage in that discussion, rather than running from something that makes his tribe look bad.

                                  By the way, I have a 12 year old so I am fully aware of the lure of "I know you are but what am I". But not only am I willing to engage in discussions of the possibility, I said as much in the post you are responding to.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                  @horace said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                  My point was the plausibility and the conclusions that would be drawn by a reasonable person about retribution being on the mind of the jurors. jon 1.0 might have been willing to engage in that discussion, rather than running from something that makes his tribe look bad.

                                  By the way, I have a 12 year old so I am fully aware of the lure of "I know you are but what am I". But not only am I willing to engage in discussions of the possibility, I said as much in the post you are responding to.

                                  Yes, it's plausible, and a reasonable person would reach the conclusion that retribution is on the minds of the jurors. Which is entirely the fault of the culture of the left.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    @George-K I think I’ve only seen that guy’s name here and it was a discussion about him making shit up out of whole cloth.

                                    I apologize in advance if I have the name wrong.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                    @George-K I think I’ve only seen that guy’s name here and it was a discussion about him making shit up out of whole cloth.

                                    I apologize in advance if I have the name wrong.

                                    In this case, it's very believable. This jury has not been sequestered. They are local people who watched their town burn to the tune of $11,000,000, during the Kenosha riots. There are National Guard troops guarding the courthouse. There are "activists" panting to doxx them and their families.

                                    The current POTUS called Rittenhouse a murderer.

                                    What do you think?

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                      @George-K I think I’ve only seen that guy’s name here and it was a discussion about him making shit up out of whole cloth.

                                      I apologize in advance if I have the name wrong.

                                      In this case, it's very believable. This jury has not been sequestered. They are local people who watched their town burn to the tune of $11,000,000, during the Kenosha riots. There are National Guard troops guarding the courthouse. There are "activists" panting to doxx them and their families.

                                      The current POTUS called Rittenhouse a murderer.

                                      What do you think?

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                                      @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                      @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                      @George-K I think I’ve only seen that guy’s name here and it was a discussion about him making shit up out of whole cloth.

                                      I apologize in advance if I have the name wrong.

                                      $11,000,000, during the Kenosha riots.

                                      I heard $50,000,000.

                                      https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/damage-rioting-kenosha-50-million

                                      The current POTUS called Rittenhouse a murderer.

                                      Not aware of that, but I did hear him call Rittenhouse a member of the white supremacists. Yesterday, Psaki punted on that question.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                        @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                        @George-K I think I’ve only seen that guy’s name here and it was a discussion about him making shit up out of whole cloth.

                                        I apologize in advance if I have the name wrong.

                                        $11,000,000, during the Kenosha riots.

                                        I heard $50,000,000.

                                        https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/damage-rioting-kenosha-50-million

                                        The current POTUS called Rittenhouse a murderer.

                                        Not aware of that, but I did hear him call Rittenhouse a member of the white supremacists. Yesterday, Psaki punted on that question.

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                                        @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                        @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                        @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                        @George-K I think I’ve only seen that guy’s name here and it was a discussion about him making shit up out of whole cloth.

                                        I apologize in advance if I have the name wrong.

                                        $11,000,000, during the Kenosha riots.

                                        I heard $50,000,000.

                                        https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/damage-rioting-kenosha-50-million

                                        The current POTUS called Rittenhouse a murderer.

                                        Not aware of that, but I did hear him call Rittenhouse a member of the white supremacists. Yesterday, Psaki punted on that question.

                                        You are correct. Biden called him a white supremacist. I thought he had said Rittenhouse murdered two people, but I can't find it.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                          @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                          @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                          @George-K I think I’ve only seen that guy’s name here and it was a discussion about him making shit up out of whole cloth.

                                          I apologize in advance if I have the name wrong.

                                          $11,000,000, during the Kenosha riots.

                                          I heard $50,000,000.

                                          https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/damage-rioting-kenosha-50-million

                                          The current POTUS called Rittenhouse a murderer.

                                          Not aware of that, but I did hear him call Rittenhouse a member of the white supremacists. Yesterday, Psaki punted on that question.

                                          You are correct. Biden called him a white supremacist. I thought he had said Rittenhouse murdered two people, but I can't find it.

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                                          @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                          d said Rittenhouse murdered two people, b

                                          It was CBS who tweeted the Rittenhouse being a murderer. Biden claimed Rittenhouse was a member of a militia from Illinois.

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